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Scrounger
06-30-2005, 09:58 PM
Some time today the sound went out on my computer. There was a message displayed for just an instant as windows was shutting down but not long enough to read. I have a Dell (started to say Dillon!) with XP Home. What likely happened and what do I do about it? I'm tempted to do nothing as I don't hear the annoying sounds of Windows turning on or off. But I do listen to music a lot, so I better get it fixed. I think it's still under warranty.

Pop_No_Kick
07-01-2005, 07:25 AM
Some time today the sound went out on my computer. There was a message displayed for just an instant as windows was shutting down but not long enough to read. I have a Dell (started to say Dillon!) with XP Home. What likely happened and what do I do about it? I'm tempted to do nothing as I don't hear the annoying sounds of Windows turning on or off. But I do listen to music a lot, so I better get it fixed. I think it's still under warranty.
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Sounds like your Sound Card Driver got over written.

the fix is:
START
SETTINGS
CONTROL PANEL
SYSTEM
DEVICE MANAGER
DELETE THE SOUND DRIVERS
HIT REFRESH
REBOOT
AND THE AGRV. NOISES ARE BACK!

Scrounger
07-01-2005, 09:40 AM
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Sounds like your Sound Card Driver got over written.

the fix is:
START
SETTINGS
CONTROL PANEL
SYSTEM
DEVICE MANAGER
DELETE THE SOUND DRIVERS
HIT REFRESH
REBOOT
AND THE AGRV. NOISES ARE BACK!

Can't delete. Troubleshooter says everything is working as designed. But obviously it isn't...

Pop_No_Kick
07-01-2005, 09:59 AM
Can't delete. Troubleshooter says everything is working as designed. But obviously it isn't...
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Shoot the trouble shooter....hehehe

Delete the Drivers, all will be fine.
the XP will auto reload them to a differnt location

** just to let you know some spyware and other Browser add ons
have a bad tendency to run amuk and load where they should not
eg. where youe sound drivers are..**

Also check to see if the little speaker icon "bottem left by clock is there
the have been some program that disable (not by design) the sound

if not just go to :
settings
control panel
sound
check the box to enable volume control on task bar
close
and WHA LA'


( I do this for a living )

Scrounger
07-01-2005, 10:06 AM
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Shoot the trouble shooter....hehehe

Delete the Drivers, all will be fine.
the XP will auto reload them to a differnt location

** just to let you know some spyware and other Browser add ons
have a bad tendency to run amuk and load where they should not
eg. where youe sound drivers are..**

Also check to see if the little speaker icon "bottem left by clock is there
the have been some program that disable (not by design) the sound

if not just go to :
settings
control panel
sound
check the box to enable volume control on task bar
close
and WHA LA'


( I do this for a living )

Speaker symbol is there, and volume control is adjusted high enough to definitely hear sound. If there was any. Repeat: Cannot delete drivers. Right clicking them does not bring up delete option; highlighting them and pushing delete button on keyboard does nothing either.

Pop_No_Kick
07-01-2005, 10:24 AM
Speaker symbol is there, and volume control is adjusted high enough to definitely hear sound. If there was any. Repeat: Cannot delete drivers. Right clicking them does not bring up delete option; highlighting them and pushing delete button on keyboard does nothing either.
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Dell and there inflament wisdon disable it.....

New Proceedure (same thing just auomated )

Go back to device Manager (under hardware)

right click on the drivers and update them.
it will go to the web or hard drive and actually relaod the same drivers.
I really dont like this because you cant see what the machine is doing
But it should work out for ya.
P.S. You need to do this for each listing in the sub group
(thats why i dont like it)

Please Let me know if it helps..

Scrounger
07-01-2005, 10:31 AM
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Dell and there inflament wisdon disable it.....

New Proceedure (same thing just auomated )

Go back to device Manager (under hardware)

right click on the drivers and update them.
it will go to the web or hard drive and actually relaod the same drivers.
I really dont like this because you cant see what the machine is doing
But it should work out for ya.
P.S. You need to do this for each listing in the sub group
(thats why i dont like it)

Please Let me know if it helps..
Already updated drivers. Machine reported there were no newer software available (or words to that effect. Bad sound card?

Pop_No_Kick
07-01-2005, 10:48 AM
Already updated drivers. Machine reported there were no newer software available (or words to that effect. Bad sound card?

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Most Dell's Have a built it sound card.
Older PC's Do have a card

If I were perfoming a service call in your home I would:

if you have a card i would power down the system. Remove the cover
(there are no dangerous voltage inside )

remove the retaining screw that holds the card, if you have a cable that
plugs into the card (it goes to the cd-rom for music CD's) unplug it
Remove the card by pulling with even pressure straight up.

And place the card some where safe.
Power the pc. Back-up,
It will take a little longer for the pc to boot (it's removing the sound drivers)
after the PC boots up, Shut it back down install the card
the WINXP will reload the drivers..

if this does NOT WORK the card is bad..

If your sound card is on the mother board you must disable it in the CMOS
call me @ 337-886-1387 (Louisiana) And I will walk you thru it.


P

Scrounger
07-01-2005, 10:57 AM
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Most Dell's Have a built it sound card.
Older PC's Do have a card

If I were perfoming a service call in your home I would:

if you have a card i would power down the system. Remove the cover
(there are no dangerous voltage inside )

remove the retaining screw that holds the card, if you have a cable that
plugs into the card (it goes to the cd-rom for music CD's) unplug it
Remove the card by pulling with even pressure straight up.

And place the card some where safe.
Power the pc. Back-up,
It will take a little longer for the pc to boot (it's removing the sound drivers)
after the PC boots up, Shut it back down install the card
the WINXP will reload the drivers..

if this does NOT WORK the card is bad..

If your sound card is on the mother board you must disable it in the CMOS
call me @ 337-886-1387 (Louisiana) And I will walk you thru it.


P
I really thank you for your efforts but I don't want to waste any more of your time. And I seem to be really inept to following electronic instructions. I'll haul it to the local computer shop next week. The guy is really good, he doesn't charge an arm and a leg, and he does it while I wait. I was thinking about adding something to it anyway, so I can kill two birds with one stone.

Scrounger
07-01-2005, 11:01 AM
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Most Dell's Have a built it sound card.
Older PC's Do have a card

If I were perfoming a service call in your home I would:

if you have a card i would power down the system. Remove the cover
(there are no dangerous voltage inside )

remove the retaining screw that holds the card, if you have a cable that
plugs into the card (it goes to the cd-rom for music CD's) unplug it
Remove the card by pulling with even pressure straight up.

And place the card some where safe.
Power the pc. Back-up,
It will take a little longer for the pc to boot (it's removing the sound drivers)
after the PC boots up, Shut it back down install the card
the WINXP will reload the drivers..

if this does NOT WORK the card is bad..

If your sound card is on the mother board you must disable it in the CMOS
call me @ 337-886-1387 (Louisiana) And I will walk you thru it.


P

I've run into Dell's built-ins before. The Ethernet card died recently. Only it wasn't a replaceable card, it was a built in. The tech installed a normal type card. Hope there's an empty slot on the board...

Pop_No_Kick
07-01-2005, 12:19 PM
I've run into Dell's built-ins before. The Ethernet card died recently. Only it wasn't a replaceable card, it was a built in. The tech installed a normal type card. Hope there's an empty slot on the board...
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If you had a built in network adaptor , then the sound is also built in.

The problem is actually more severe than Just a Pain.
The Pci Controller on the motherboard is failing Prob. from heat
(it dont take much)...especialy if PC installed in Computer desk with no air flow..

The USB Jacks will be next, then Hard drive controller..
Which all use this "chip"
I have a few of those here in the shop (parts) because of this.

I have also seen BAD WRITTEN free and shareware that exploited the controller chip (for performance ) Cause these Problems.

The fix for that is a Complete Reload of Windows...
and ALL the hardware will work again even the dead network jack!
This does account for about 90% of the time. 10 % for a failed chip

as they are well designed motherboards for what they cost. and dell does
use mil. spec Intergrated circuit chips on a quality (U.S. made Circuit Board)

Good luck with it! and ALL PC's need to be Dusted out with a air hose about every 6 months espec, the power supply.. (look at the dust on the power supply fan if its Dusty the inside is even worst.)

Your PC GURU should handle that for you...

Pop_No_Kick
07-01-2005, 12:36 PM
Since This is a GUN Forum I will tell u This.

I Sell and Service Offshore and inland Oil Drilling Rig PC's

I had a company man come to the shop to take delivery of some new PC's
They were DELLS and Compaqs they where 386's types (old by today stds)

Oil bussiness was new to PC's. and they where really concerned about shock and vibration and doubt that they can handle the abuse they would endure

As I feared I was Loosing the sale. I grabbed my RUGER MARK II Loaded a full clip off CCI Mini Mags and Set the PC in the Yard (Country Living) Booted it up

And Proceeded To Unload on this thing (I missed only once hehehe)
the steel case held together never to punch one hole in it.
the plastic Well it's plastic...

The morrow of the story is there not the fastest but are rugged and well built.
As far as the Sale they are still one of my best customers

Thanx's
Chuck

StarMetal
07-01-2005, 01:45 PM
First rule to working on the inside componants of a pc are turn the power off of course, then push the start button to further drain any power stored in capacitors. Then you should put a grounding strap on your wrist to the chasis. Static electricity can burn out sensitive componants. Yeah I know, you've gottne away without doing this, but someday it will bite you. Why do you think they ship circuit boards in that special silvery envelope.

Joe

Pop_No_Kick
07-01-2005, 02:18 PM
First rule to working on the inside componants of a pc are turn the power off of course, then push the start button to further drain any power stored in capacitors. Then you should put a grounding strap on your wrist to the chasis. Static electricity can burn out sensitive componants. Yeah I know, you've gottne away without doing this, but someday it will bite you. Why do you think they ship circuit boards in that special silvery envelope.

Joe
YES YOU ARE VERY RIGHT !!! :grin:

Gunload Master
07-01-2005, 03:07 PM
Scrouger,
Couple things to try:

1) Check your speaker connections (all connections to speakers and back of computer). Then make sure you got power to your speakers and that your speakers are TURNED UP.

Open up your favorite windows music player (windows media player or whichever you prefer). And start playing a song. Double click your volume icon (lower RIGHT hand corner by clock) and your Volume controls will come up. Make sure your master volume is all the way up and the "Mute all" button is not checked. (Uncheck all the "Mute" boxes, even the microphone) Next make sure your music is still playing with your music player and slowly drag your master volume controller down. You "MIGHT" hit a point where your music works (it's odd I know, but it might work).
Also if you have a microphone, talk into it and see if you get sound out of your speakers.

I also own a computer repair business. www.premology.com (http://www.premology.com)
Good luck and let me us know.

Gunload Master
07-01-2005, 03:10 PM
First rule to working on the inside componants of a pc are turn the power off of course, then push the start button to further drain any power stored in capacitors. Then you should put a grounding strap on your wrist to the chasis. Static electricity can burn out sensitive componants. Yeah I know, you've gottne away without doing this, but someday it will bite you. Why do you think they ship circuit boards in that special silvery envelope.

Joe

If you unplug the power cord from your power supply and wait 30 to 60 seconds afterwards all capacitors should be drained. On ATX motherboards if you leave the power cord hooked up to your power supply you still have power to the motherboard.

Maxthompson
07-01-2005, 03:19 PM
Be sure to have your guy install the Microsoft Beta antispyware program. My PC at work was locking up and doing all kinds of strange things. After it swept the system and found seventy some pieces of trouble it has worked fine. It's free and it works great. Spyware and adware seems to get right through the virus fighters.

I know everyone hates Gates but this one really seems to work and was recomended by the people that do the tech work for Toyota.


You can do it yourself easy enough by just going to the microsoft site and getting it.

Just an another old F--ts 2 cents.
Mike

StarMetal
07-01-2005, 04:04 PM
There's usually some LED's on the motherboard that tell you if power is still there. After yanking the powerboard it is still lit, then I hit the start button and it goes out. I don't like waiting 30 to 60 seconds.

Microsoft took a step in the right direction with coming out with an antispyware, but being blunt and to the point it's a piece of ****. There are far better antispyware's out there. A pc company ran test with a known infected machine with the Microsoft product and it not only didn't clear anything out it didn't even detect it.

I'm not going to sit here and take cracks at what's the matter with Arts sound system, but I bet it's something simple and Art is smart not listening to folks on the forum here because he admits not know this stuff and someone like that can screw up their pc far worse then it was to begin with.

This all boils down to who has the biggest balls....I build pc's, I sell pc's, I service pc's, I have my own pc business, etc.

Just my 39 cents

Joe

Maxthompson
07-01-2005, 07:05 PM
Joe,

D==m, Maybe that's why folks say you try to start trouble.
I work on one of these things all day long. Yes I've built them and can usually fix them. I've held a first class Fcc license, when it meant something. I was just offering a bit of free advice. The techies told me it worked, I tried it, it worked, it's free. Nuff said. $.98


Mike

StarMetal
07-01-2005, 07:40 PM
Max..I'm not starting trouble...just telling it like it is....and frankly I don't give a damn what people say about me.

3 more cents

Joe

Scrounger
07-01-2005, 07:48 PM
Joe, I know you miss your buddy, Ray, the CarpetMan, but he's up in the mountains trying to catch some big kitties. Relax, he'll be back. Unless he does manage to capture one of those "kitties" with his 'capture stick'. If that happens, you may have to find someone else to pick on...

StarMetal
07-01-2005, 08:20 PM
Art,

Yeah...I use to pick on you, but you went and turned out to be an ok guy on me.

Joe

Gunload Master
07-01-2005, 10:22 PM
Hey scrouger when your buddy fixes your problem, let us know what it was just so we know. I'm a curious little fellow, good thing I'm not a cat.....