How fast could you push one of the .30 buckshot loads?

[Silvercreek Farmer]

What would happen when you started pushing it too fast? I'm refering to the little gallery loads folks make out of 0 buck in a .30 cal cartridge.

[para45lda]

Leading? Inaccuracy? I guess you could get it to vaporize if you pushed it fast enough.

Depends on how fast you think is too fast. Not trying to be a butt just sayin

Wes

[Silvercreek Farmer]

Leading? Inaccuracy? I guess you could get it to vaporize if you pushed it fast enough.

Depends on how fast you think is too fast. Not trying to be a butt just sayin

Wes

No offense taken, I'm just curious. Could you get one to say 1600-1800 fps without detrimental effects?

[para45lda]

Without knowing which cartridge I would say generally that may be a little fast (pretty sure they're pretty soft) but other than some leading I wouldn't think it would be dangerous in a modern firearm. Again we are talking general terms.

If you can share some specifics I'm sure someone here has a load to share.

And welcome to Cast Boolits.

Wes

[runfiverun]

a blackpowder rifle is in the 1600 fps area.
but they/i usually use a lubed patch to do it.
minie bals don't use a patch but they are lubed.
anyways grabbing the rifling, and holding it,will be the large obstacles especially with the small bearing.
cutting a lube groove and hardening the boolit would help.

[beagle]

Just speculating here based on what has gone on beforehand in history and some experiments Petey and I did about 10 years ago.

You could probably push a RB to 3,000 FPS in a .30/06 with the right combination of powder. Seems like Winchester made either a 90 or 110 grain HP load once that ran about 3,000 FPS.

Accuracy????? Maybe "minute of barn door" at 50 yards. I beleive it would hold together at 3,000 FPS as I've shot some 170 spire point cast at 2,600 FPS before and they held up all right but disintegrated upon impact with the berm. Accuracy was nonexistent. 20 rounds tested.

Those would be really economical too as I had the worst leaded barrel I've ever seen after that fiasco. You can reuse most of your lead as it's right there in the barrel waiting for you.

A round ball would never seal at those velocities and you get loads of white blowby smoke.

Still, it's an interesting thought and process./beagle

[MikeS]

With any of the buckshot loads, I would think that lubing the shot with LLA would help it shoot.

[1Shirt]

Lubing the ball in lee mule snot does help, but only a little bit. Like Beagle's min of barn door at high vol. Might even be min of barn.
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[45-70 Chevroner]

I sometimes forget to keep in mind the original question. I guess that comes from getting old.

[olafhardt]

I once held a box of 110 grain 300 Weatherby loads in my hand. The guy said he bought them cause 150's kicked to hard.

[1Shirt]

Just what does one hunt with 300 Weatherby 110 grain loads? Never had much use for Weatherby anything. I met the man once, and considered him an A*****e. Lots of rifles on the market that will shoot with or better than a Weatherby and for a lot less.
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[beagle]

Didn't old Elmer Write of shooting jacks with 110 grain loads ina .300 H & H or maybe it was an 06? Bet he didn't have many cripples./beagle