Remington 799

[Herb in Pa]

It was with some trepidation that I opened the box containing my 799 after reading some threads concerning the fit and finish. Inletting on my particular rifle was well done with no obvious gaps and the entire barrel would pass the dollar bill test for free floating. There was a gob of what I would assume was some type of thermoplastic bedding the receiver in front of the recoil lug and there is a metal reinforcing bar inlet into the stock behind the recoil lug.

The action was a little rough, but some cycling of the bolt seemed to smooth things out. The trigger is nothing to brag about so I replaced it with a Timney.

I torqued the action to 35 inchpounds and started load development with IMR4198 and Speer 130 grain HP's but it just seemed to me that something slower burning was in order.

I opened a fresh jug of WC846 and started with 28 grains (light) and worked up to 30 with the initial test. Best group hovered around 1 1/2" for 5 shots @ 100.

I went to the range this afternoon with loads beginning with 30.5 and ending with 32.

The 30.5 and 31.0 loads exhibited vertical stringing and the 31.5 and 32.0 loads showed round groups.

I'll return to the range tomorrow and retry the 32.0 and also some at 32.3.

All in all, it's certainly a less rocky road to travel than my trials with a M77 in 7.62x39. The large scope is only mounted for load development after which I'll switch to one more in scale with the rifle.

[Bass Ackward]

Atta Boy Herb!

So .... Are you sayin your happy with your purchase? :grin:

[madcaster]

What caliber?

[Herb in Pa]

Atta Boy Herb!

So .... Are you sayin your happy with your purchase? :grin:

YOU BETCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Herb in Pa]

What caliber?

7.62X39

[beagle]

Herb...Thanks for the post. Think you made up my mind on getting one. I've only seen one in .223 and it too felt like it had a stiff bolt throw but was otherwise a good looking rifle as far as finnish etc.

Being as I have 7.62 X39mm boxer brass running out of my ears and loads of .30 moulds, it might make me a nice little plinking rifle.

Guess I'll go fer it./beagle

[Herb in Pa]

Beagle......I think you might be pleasantly surprised. I tried the 32.3 grain load this afternoon under some dismal lighting conditions.....under the circumstances it didn't do too badly I attribute the shanked shot in the second group to the "nut behind the trigger" Group 1 (on left) runs .632" 5 shots, 4 in .536", Group 2 (on right) runs 1.160" 5 shots, 4 in .660". I'm still learning how to shoot this little guy..........it doesn't ride the bags like my other rifles.

[Buckshot]

..................If you have some surplus 4895 start at 26.0grs. A casefull will probably be about 28.0grs. If no surplus 4895 start with 24.0grs of H, AA or IMR 4895.

..................Buckshot

[Steve E]

What neighborhood are those retailing for in the real world? Inquiring minds want to know.

Steve E.........

[Scrounger]

What neighborhood are those retailing for in the real world? Inquiring minds want to know.

Steve E.........

They're listed at $500 to $600 on Gunbroker. Personally I'd rather buy TWO Stevens 200s...

[RugerFan]

They're listed at $500 to $600 on Gunbroker. Personally I'd rather buy TWO Stevens 200s...

Unfortunately the Stevens 200 does not come in short action calibers, but I understand your sentiment. The M799s look sharp. I have thought about getting one in 7.62X39 or .22 Hornet.

[Scrounger]

[QUOTE=RugerFan;
While you can often get base model vehicles in a limited variety of colors, the Stevens Model 200 comes only with a gray synthetic stock and blued steel. Variety kicks in with calibers. You won't find base trucks with much in the way of engine choices, but in the Stevens Model 200 you'll find no less than five short-action chamberings from .223 Remington to .308 Winchester. Available long-action chamberings include .25-06, .270 Winchester, and .30-06 Springfield, you can also have 7mm Remington Magnum or .300 Winchester Magnum.

Unfortunately, 7.62X39 is not one of them. But the argument I keep having with myself is, why do I want to fool with that caliber when .308 is so easily available? I keep telling myself the 7.62x39 only has value as cheap loaded ammo. Anything it can do, and more, can be done with either the .30-30 and/or the .308. This exotic foreigner does attract us but our domestic models are every bit as good.

[RugerFan]

Yup, your right about the short action. I went to the Savage site and failed to see the short action link. Yes, a .308 will do anything and more than a 7.62x39, but...it's just a fun little cartridge.

[C A Plater]

Unfortunately the Stevens 200 does not come in short action calibers, but I understand your sentiment. The M799s look sharp. I have thought about getting one in 7.62X39 or .22 Hornet.

Well not that short but the 200 does come in a .308 length action. I just picked up one in .243 to use as a donor action for a .250 Savage bolt gun.

http://www.savagearms.com/st_200short.htm

[Bass Ackward]

Unfortunately, 7.62X39 is not one of them. But the argument I keep having with myself is, why do I want to fool with that caliber when .308 is so easily available? I keep telling myself the 7.62x39 only has value as cheap loaded ammo. Anything it can do, and more, can be done with either the .30-30 and/or the .308.


The advantages of a 7.62X39 to a 308 are just like the advantages to a 22 Hornet to a 223. And it's highly tapered while the 308 is very straight sided. That means that for horizontal shots, the the powder is naturally held back by the primer. No filler requirements and better ES statistics which may .... or may not translate into better accuracy at these levels.

So while you are shooting cast at standard cast velocities, you can have the piece of mind in knowing you are following what amounts to safer reloading practices at higher percentage load densities as the shooting industry recommends, while still producing light / economical loads. Or you can load it up and have a bolt action 30/30.

[blysmelter]

The trigger is nothing to brag about so I replaced it with a Timney.


Old thread, but wich Timney fits the 799?

[mike in co]

Old thread, but wich Timney fits the 799?

yes, me too( i have the charles daly in 223 and a 7.62x39 bbl)

[blysmelter]

I sent an e-mail to Timney and asked, the answer is that the triggers for Mauser (301) will fit. Guess I got to order one!
Exellent service from Heather at Timney; she responded to my e-mail in less than an hour:-)

[Blammer]

7.62x39 only has value as cheap loaded ammo.

you obviously havn't check prices lately! OR availablility... :)

[Blkpwdrbuff]

C A, the Stevens 200 is a great base for a rifle builder.
2 years ago I built a wildcat called the .250 Humdinger, sort of a .25 Souper improved.
I used the 200 as my base and was totally satisfied.
I'm now getting a long action one to make my daughter a .257 Roberts.
I did replace the trigger with a Timney and my 'smith set it to 3lbs. 1 ounce.
I only wish they would put the Accu-Trigger on them.

Blkpwdrbuff:castmine:

[Heavy lead]

Seems there are some here who ask why a mini mauser? Why a 7.62x39? The answer for me is the rifle. I have a CZ-527 223 european model with fixed sights. I love the style, function and weight of this little gun. Oh I have heavy barreled 22-250's, Two ar-15 bull barrels, a 22-250 kimber, all shoot very well, but this is sweet. It weighs a hair over 6 pounds with a 2x7 leupold. It likes light bullets (haven't tried cast yet) and while it has a single set trigger, I adjusted down to a sweet, crisp 2lbs. in single stage mode, and there is actually instructions in the manual to do this!
I would love to have it in a 7.62x39, or maybe a 6x47:-D
Anyway I think the 799 is a great purchase, glad you like it, and the 7.62x39 round is very versatile, and should be great with cast.
It's nice to have a rifle action sized correctly to the round isn't it?
Why would you shoot an N-frame Smith chambered to 22 long rifle?
For most cast bullet use, I would think the shorter round would be superior(comparing it with the 308), and of course the package must smaller and lighter.

[ktw]

I would love to have it in a 7.62x39, or maybe a 6x47:-D

I would buy one (799 or CZ) in a heartbeat if they were available in 6x45.

Don't want to deal with casting for a 22 or loading for a short-necked 30, have the tooling already for 6 mm. Haven't worked up the justification (yet) for the price of a Cooper or for rebarreling a CZ.

-ktw

[Heavy lead]

I here you, those Coopers are a fine rifle, but pricy, if you can find yourself a used one somewhere for cheap, or maybe just an action (at one time I believe you could buy a yugo mini-mauser action only) and have Shaw barrel. Is a 6x45 the 223 necked up? Or is it the 222? I believe the 6x47 is the 222 mag correct? Put a 85 partition in that it would be a fine short range or youth deer rifle that would also double as a walking coyote gun.
I'm drooling just thinking about it.
I've had Shaw put a few barrels on and they all seem to shoot pretty well to excellent.

[OBXPilgrim]

I got a good shooting load in 7.62x39 using one of the wider 311407 GB's - my notes say it was 185gr with lube. Worked up to 24.0gr of H4895 for 1880 fps.

Need to work with that load some so see if it's going to work as good as the first try.

Rifle was H&R Handi Rifle. No, they don't make them any more. No, it's not for sale.

[Herb in Pa]

I can't believe this thread was brought back from the dead. I haven't been shooting much cast lately as I've been concentrating on 22 rimfire. I did however run across a nice 22 hornet sporter (Anschutz 1730 HB) that is an honest 1/2" shooter at 100 yards. I guess I could have got 4 or 5 Stevens instead but I wanted the Annie.

[NHlever]

There hasn't been a lot of talk here about the Remington 799, but there are few rifiles available in the same calibers. I am interested in any input on the .22 Hornet, .222 Rem, and 7.62x39 in these guns. I guess the .22 Hornet has a detachable magazine, but I have never even seen a picture of one. I've owned a couple of CZ's (223, and 7.62x39) and should still own them if I were smart instead of constantly experimenting..:roll:

[6pt-sika]

The Remington 799 is one in the same as the "Mini" Mauser that Interarms brought out many years ago !

Although I have never owned one of these 799/Mini's before I do own a pair of old Interarms Mark X "Whitworth" actioned rifles and I have yet to shoot anyhting in them they didn't like :-D


A few years ago when Charles Daly was importing these rifles I purchased a blued synthetic in 30-06 . It was my intention to take the rifle and rebarrel it to 6.5-06 . After getting the rifle I messed with the factory trigger and got it to a decent creep free 3 pounds . And then decided I should try it in 30-06 and see how it went . I had also shimmed the action up in the stock enough to free float the barrel .

Anyway with jacketed bullets at 100 yards I could shoot 3 times and keep them under 3/4's of an inch .

So then I felt it would be a diservice to rebarrel the rifle and sold it to a friend who wanted a deer rifle . I might add he has killed a truck load of deer with that rifle in the past 5 years .


As for the Stevens rifles I have no opinion ! I must however say I have seen the fairly new Savage Model 10 Predator and I gotta say I like the looks of that rifle ! And of note for someone who likes that semi heavy barrel in a fully camoed version "Jerry's Sports Center" has had Savage make them a special run of other calibers just like the Model 10 Predator :drinks:

I am thinking this Special Edition Camo in a 270 WSM might just be something I need [smilie=1: