View Full Version : Any intrest in a 180gr stop ring bullet for 8.15x46r/32-40?
01-19-2012, 04:55 PM
I have some origional german stop ring bullets and befor I shoot them I would like
to have a mold made. The bullet is .925 long weighs 180gr.the base is .322 and the stop ring is .333. this is a multi dimention bullet and has a shallow .010 pie plate hollow
base. I have no ability to do a cad drawing, but, will send a sample to someone who could do so and post here for all to see. I belive this will do well in many 32 cal. chamberings.
Their are already five of us interested, and I have only mentioned it to six.
Who can we put the touch on to do a drawing?
01-19-2012, 05:51 PM
That's what we do.
Send a sample off to us and will get a drawing up.
NOE Bullet Moulds
1645 W 150 N
Provo, UT 84601
01-19-2012, 09:06 PM
OK.. I'll get samples on there way
01-20-2012, 06:30 AM
Why re-invent the wheel and also have to wait for the mold?
Buffalo Arms has the stop ring molds in 316 and 320 base diameters. I have both molds and Jim at BACO produces excellent molds
01-20-2012, 10:26 AM
It isn't about re-inventing the wheel it's trying to get a faithfull copy of the original
to take advantage of the R&D that is in the multi-dimentional design.
I followed your link to buffalo arms and looked at their bullets, which are nice, but to me lack the allure of the origional design.
01-20-2012, 08:46 PM
I followed your link to buffalo arms and looked at their bullets, which are nice, but to me lack the allure of the original design. Post a picture of your original stop ring bullet and we'll do some comparisons. Probably the only difference will be the shallow .010 pie plate hollow base. Can't imagine the hollow base makes any difference than a flat base except for obturation expansion
BTW, what does your bore slug at?
01-20-2012, 10:22 PM
For reasons unknown to me, I'm not seeing my last post or your reply
as part of the normay thread, if I click on thread tools in the upper right cornor
then I can read every thing.
But to answer your question:
There are small variation in the diameter of driving bands.
base band at .322 then next two at .320 then the stop ring which has a .322 step
then .333 then a steps of .319,.318,.317 then ojive to.125 flat nose.
This is the best I could measure. Samples are in the mail to SwedNelson
so we will see what he finds and puts in the drawing.
I think the smaller bands between base and stop ring are to allow a place
for the displaced lead of the stop ring to go.
I have to confess that I have not slugged the bores of my 8.15's yet.
The rifle I had when these bullets were given to me has been rebarrled, but old ammo shows a bullet sized to .320.
I rember being told by the friend who gave me the samples that they were swaged and not cast. Neat trick to get a multi dia. bullet from a sweaging die! It must be some sort of split die as there seems to be parting lines on the bullet.
01-21-2012, 08:38 PM
DR - your bullets are different than the 320-180 mold from Buffalo Arms.
(as cast Bhn 9.8)
0.921 - length with a tapered ogive, 0.080 metplat
0.470 - nose length
0.319 - bottom of nose
0.040 - 1st GG width
0.065 - 1st band width
0.332 - stop ring diameter
0.060 - stop ring width
0.319 - 2nd band diameter
0.070 - 2nd band width
0.319 - 3rd band diameter
0.080 - 3rd band width
0.319 - base diameter
0.085 - base width
My Aydt bore is 305 x 316 and these bullets group nicely to 200yds. Let me know how your bullets shoot when you get the mold
01-25-2012, 08:26 PM
This is a very interesting bullet
Something to look at.
Samples and a 32-40
01-26-2012, 10:24 AM
Hey Al, if this is an interest thread, I want one! It would seem to me the perfect thing to fill the eroded throats of my 8mm's.
01-27-2012, 04:13 PM
i was thinking the same thing .
i,m also interested.
01-28-2012, 01:50 PM
Count me in for the mold too
May get some more 'wants' from the fellas over on the ASSRA forum. This link has been posted there
02-12-2012, 09:23 PM
I have had another fellow shooter express an interest in a mold, thats six mold from my end
one each from x101airborne adrians and John Boy for a total of 9. If only 6 more of the fence sitters jump on board I think we can get on the production schedual. Jump in with any thoughts on this. Maybe one of this design in a 30 cal?
02-15-2012, 02:57 PM
Let me see if any of the ASSRA folks are interested. There are plenty of Schuetzen shooters using 8.15x46R and 32-40's on the forum
02-15-2012, 10:15 PM
Thank you John
02-15-2012, 10:22 PM
I have been asked if this mold can be had in brass?
02-16-2012, 06:08 AM
Thread also started on Steve Garbe's Wyoming Schuetzen Society forum ...
02-16-2012, 07:05 AM
I'm interested in a single cavity mold.
02-16-2012, 07:12 AM
I have 2 Schuetzens this would be great for.
02-16-2012, 07:52 AM
Hi, I'm one of the ASSRA guys, I just picked up a nice Aydt schuetzen and need a mold, what is the price going to run on these?
02-16-2012, 09:54 AM
Have some questions I need to get answered too.
Still working on the hollow base on this one.
Are we going to need the hollow base on it?
That will dictate how we make the form tool and the
process we use to cut the cavities.
So what do you say?
02-16-2012, 02:08 PM
Swede, my vote is with the hollow base
Why? The Aydt rifle groove diameters are not uniform for the rifles made from 1939 back to about 1897. With the HB, just like the 405gr HB for 45-70 in a Trapdoor - it helps to bump the bullet up for better obturation
But if it is decided to go with no HB, OK by me too. It's the ogive and 2 GG's before the stop ring that are important to me with a total of five
02-16-2012, 08:04 PM
I am getting back into the game after 10 yrs, I've always shot 8.14x46R German rifles. I never got the accuracy I wanted from breech seating. I would like to try stop ring bullets, so count me in.
02-17-2012, 05:40 AM
i would like one also, pm me with how to pay or email as I dont always check in here. firstname.lastname@example.org
the other DWS
02-17-2012, 06:36 AM
I'm also interested, I saw it on the ASSRA website this am. How much and how do I order, need one, may want a second tot.
DWStiles @ Hotmail dot com
I keep checking back here ever couple days for additional info 2/20/12 TTT
02-21-2012, 04:37 AM
I would like one also. Thanks, moodyholler
02-22-2012, 03:46 PM
Please add my name to the list for this mold.
02-22-2012, 03:56 PM
Sorry, I didn't see the question until after I had posted a request for the mold.
I think the hollow base design will only add needless complexity to the mold construction.
If the big, fat stop ring doesn't fill out the grooves, the hollow base never will either!
02-23-2012, 10:42 AM
Will have problems with tooling that is required to do a hollow base.
Have to offer this one as a PB only.
Have a buy going now.
02-23-2012, 08:02 PM
I printed the schematic of the stop ring bullet ... will take it to our Schuetzen Match this Sunday - would expect more orders. If the guys want one, I'll add them to my order
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