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BulletFactory
01-14-2012, 12:56 PM
Internet Strike on Wednesday

In protest of the internet censorship threat, hundreds of websites like google, facebook, gmail, and tumblr are going to do a blackout. I'm not sure how long it will last, possibly until the bill goes before the senate on the 24th

Scroll down the list on the linked page to see if the sites you use are affected.

MODS, I encourage you to join in this fight, if you have not already.

http://sopastrike.com/on-strike/

I know this isnt the general section, but I wanted people to see it. cast boolits seems to be where most people congregate here.

3006guns
01-14-2012, 01:07 PM
I checked the link......that's quite a list. By blackout, do they actually mean SHUTTING DOWN THE INTERNET voluntarily by refusing access to their sites? Wonder what all the advertisers think about that?

Gonna be interesting for sure.

montana_charlie
01-14-2012, 01:20 PM
That's a weird list of sites. I only scrolled through the top third and I saw multiple listings of Google, Twitter, and YouTube.
I counted six instances of Google.

CM

Bwana
01-14-2012, 01:37 PM
I must of missed something. But, that's not a big surprise if it has to do with computers. Anyone have a cliffsnotes version?

Jailer
01-14-2012, 01:43 PM
I must of missed something. But, that's not a big surprise if it has to do with computers. Anyone have a cliffsnotes version?

SOPA. Stop Online Piracy Act. Another push from the recording/movie industry lobby by our lawmakers.

http://lifehacker.com/5860205/all-about-sopa-the-bill-thats-going-to-cripple-your-internet

bigjason6
01-14-2012, 01:52 PM
There really isn't anything anyone can do to stop piracy... Remember when Napster was shut down? Five new file sharing programs popped up in it's place! Every time the music industry comes up with a new way to combat piracy, people come up with a new way to circumvent it. They're fighting a never ending battle that they'll never win.

ku4hx
01-14-2012, 02:04 PM
I'll believe it when it happens.

CaptRob
01-14-2012, 02:14 PM
yeah same here theres to much money to be lost...

stubshaft
01-14-2012, 04:40 PM
Well if my computer goes down I can always read a book.

Shedhunter
01-14-2012, 04:53 PM
If the puter doesn't work I can always cast and load some more boolits.

mpmarty
01-14-2012, 05:01 PM
Gee I will think I've died and gone back to 1975.

BulletFactory
01-14-2012, 05:17 PM
It wasnt piracy when er traded our cassettes and had dual cassette players. It was free advertising, and it worked. When CDs came out, we couldnt record anymore, so the real pirates, the lawyers, decided to get thier fingers in the dough. Now, its a crime.

dbarnhart
01-14-2012, 05:25 PM
>>>do they actually mean SHUTTING DOWN THE INTERNET <<<

My understanding is that the sites replace their normal homepage with one that is black. The sites are still up.

Mooseman
01-14-2012, 05:26 PM
Further research shows the down time will be ...150 SECONDS.
So 2.5 Minutes will give me time to do nothing!

BulletFactory
01-14-2012, 05:54 PM
When the .gov shuts down, nobody knows, or really cares. But if google shuts down, its a real problem. lol

waksupi
01-14-2012, 06:20 PM
I just did a quick browse through the list. Is there any way we can request some of them just stay gone? Lots of whacked out leftist groups.

zuke
01-14-2012, 08:10 PM
Further research shows the down time will be ...150 SECONDS.
So 2.5 Minutes will give me time to do nothing!

I've spent longer time on the toilet!

frkelly74
01-14-2012, 09:11 PM
What if they held their strike and no one noticed?

slide
01-14-2012, 09:44 PM
Personally, I don't care!

bsczar1
01-14-2012, 09:46 PM
What if they held their strike and no one noticed?


It's sorta like "If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to hear it...."

My answer has always been "who cares?"

EDK
01-14-2012, 09:57 PM
They should have scheduled it for 21 December 2012....EVERYTHING is gonna change then....or so says the MAYAN calendar.

:redneck::cbpour:

Firebricker
01-14-2012, 10:00 PM
Wouldn't they need Al gore's permission ? After all he did invent the internet LOL

williamwaco
01-14-2012, 10:54 PM
I don't believe a word of it.

But.

I have five web sites.

If any of those major sites is not available when I get up Wednesday, I will take mine down too.

Idaho Sharpshooter
01-14-2012, 11:03 PM
In support, I am going to log off the computer at 7am tomorrow morning until sometime Saturday morning of the 21st.

that will teach them.

WILCO
01-14-2012, 11:10 PM
Well if my computer goes down I can always read a book.

Yep. I'm working through some Clive Cussler books myself.......

Sonnypie
01-14-2012, 11:21 PM
Read my lips:
I don't care.

My guns and ammunition don't run on the Internet.

Too bad they don't shut down Washington for a while... ;)

WILCO
01-14-2012, 11:28 PM
For those that don't know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLYgs0xMDm0

Hardcast416taylor
01-14-2012, 11:35 PM
Wilco. Glad to see there`s another Cussler reader out there!Robert

mroliver77
01-15-2012, 01:35 AM
I've spent longer time on the toilet!
:violin:

Oreo
01-15-2012, 07:22 AM
Seems counterproductive to me though. I mean, the Chinese have to work their asses off to get past government internet censors but here in the US unkle sugar threatens censorship and we shut it down voluntarily? ***?

357shooter
01-15-2012, 07:39 AM
I'll believe it when it happens.

+1, not very believable in my opinion. Now I'll read the other responses. :wink:

Sasquatch-1
01-15-2012, 08:01 AM
What time do they plan on doing this...3:30 AM and while thsy are down whay don't they do some maintenence on their sites.:coffeecom

UtopiaTexasG19
01-15-2012, 10:40 AM
Shutting down one's internet site in protest to a suposed ban would be like protesting the high price of gasoline by draining the gas tank of your car all over the ground and then having to recoup the money to buy more gasoline out of your own pocket. It's pointless. I think this might be just another rumor spread by unwitting folks thinking they are accomplishing something from their desks. In the mean time I plan on having lunch that day with Elvis and Ken Lay and I'll ask them what they think about this problem.

WILCO
01-15-2012, 09:00 PM
:hijack:


Wilco. Glad to see there`s another Cussler reader out there!Robert

Thanks Robert! I read the Mediterranean Caper as a kid, then Raise the Titanic and forgot about him till recently. Been on the hunt for his books for about a month now. Found a few at the salvation army for 50 cents apiece. Currently working my way through Sahara. Have finished Dragon and Shockwave.

dnotarianni
01-15-2012, 09:10 PM
I might have to actually work at my state job to kill time

357shooter
01-16-2012, 03:02 AM
After thinking out it, maybe folks should have a hunger strike instead! Think of the impact that could have. :veryconfu:veryconfu:veryconfu

I never did get hunger strikes and sit-ins, shutting down your own website ranks right up there with them.

ku4hx
01-16-2012, 08:37 AM
+1, not very believable in my opinion. Now I'll read the other responses. :wink:

I've always been an advocate of "enough rope". In this case, if some site is bent on self mutilation by cutting off their revenue stream then go for it. Frankly, although there are web sites I'd miss, I can live without the whole thing. I did so for more than half a century and I can do it again. I'd actually have to do more what I like most and do less talking about them. Which is not a bad thing in my book.

41 mag fan
01-16-2012, 09:04 AM
I've always been an advocate of "enough rope". In this case, if some site is bent on self mutilation by cutting off their revenue stream then go for it. Frankly, although there are web sites I'd miss, I can live without the whole thing. I did so for more than half a century and I can do it again. I'd actually have to do more what I like most and do less talking about them. Which is not a bad thing in my book.

Makes a person wonder what they did with their time 15 yrs ago. I was just telling my wife last week, it's funny how the internet has intergrated into peoples lives so much, they just cant live without it. Internet servers go down like Verizons 4G towers did a few weeks ago, people get real irrate......don't ask how I know that one. I went into changing providers threat mode real fast



They should have scheduled it for 21 December 2012....EVERYTHING is gonna change then....or so says the MAYAN calendar.

:redneck::cbpour:

From what i've heard on the internet, When Dec 21st arrives, big brother will have a blackout on all internet activities in the world. they have a special weapon they will be "turning on" and using on that day.......

All I can say about this top secret secret is I got plenty of aluminum foil. Besides my foil hat, I heard this top secret secret weapon they will be using can pick your thoughts up thru the ground too. So I will be making foil socks also.
Plus I started lining my floors and ceilings with foil.
I don't think they can hear your thoughts thru the walls, just the floor and ceiling, but if I hear any rumors they can I will post to let everyone know so they can be prepared. :veryconfu


Read my lips:
I don't care.

My guns and ammunition don't run on the Internet.

Too bad they don't shut down Washington for a while... ;)


They do......every Thursday evening till Monday morning and whenever theres an important piece of legislature they go into vacation mode

azhunter12
01-16-2012, 01:18 PM
After thinking out it, maybe folks should have a hunger strike instead! Think of the impact that could have. :veryconfu:veryconfu:veryconfu

I never did get hunger strikes and sit-ins, shutting down your own website ranks right up there with them.

+1 What do others care if the company shuts down the website. Google is not controlling the world and if its just 2.5 min its a moot point.

sqlbullet
01-16-2012, 05:12 PM
+1 What do others care if the company shuts down the website. Google is not controlling the world and if its just 2.5 min its a moot point.

You might be surprised.

Here are just a small list of services that Google is involved in for hundreds of thousands or millions of users:

email, for huge numbers of businesses, not to mention all the individual gmail users. My personal domain is hosted on google apps.

Navigation, not just for those nifty maps on web pages. Lots of people depend on google to give them directions. Android phones for instance.

Voice calls for those that have google voice. I don't use it for my primary, but my lov-guns number is used for most of my classified adds.

Docs, website hosting, chat, patents....The list is very long.

You probably don't realize how much your life is impacted by them. Google uses a very open architecture, meaning many things you do use that you don't perceive as internet related could be unavailable/diminished capacity.

357shooter
01-16-2012, 09:01 PM
You might be surprised.

Here are just a small list of services that Google is involved in for hundreds of thousands or millions of users:

email, for huge numbers of businesses, not to mention all the individual gmail users. My personal domain is hosted on google apps.

Navigation, not just for those nifty maps on web pages. Lots of people depend on google to give them directions. Android phones for instance.

Voice calls for those that have google voice. I don't use it for my primary, but my lov-guns number is used for most of my classified adds.

Docs, website hosting, chat, patents....The list is very long.

You probably don't realize how much your life is impacted by them. Google uses a very open architecture, meaning many things you do use that you don't perceive as internet related could be unavailable/diminished capacity.I doubt that Google will shut down paying customers services. The lawsuites would never end. As for the free services, who cares. Looks like SOPA / PIPA is dying anyway, seems that people raised enough of a ruckus calling their Congressman that SOPA is now stopped. http://www.examiner.com/computers-in-denver/house-kills-sopa

uscra112
01-16-2012, 10:40 PM
SOPA is now stopped.

Yeah, and Obama was going to veto NDAA, too.

mpmarty
01-17-2012, 01:50 AM
Like I care? If the internet dies I'll hit up my satellite provider for a refund. I still have a library card. My Open Office suite will work without internet access so I'm good to go.

edsmith
01-17-2012, 02:00 AM
I could live without the internet, but I would not like it. how the hades would I stay in contact with all my friends here.

turbo1889
01-18-2012, 06:21 AM
Well, Wiki did actually do it for the entire day and Google did black out their logo:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7010/6719396331_e4359d653e_b.jpg



Personally, I say more power to them and the reason they are blacking out is to show people what could happen under the proposed legislation. Lets be honest here folks the law as written would allow the .gov to permanently black out this cast boolits forum permanently and without legal recourse if they wanted to without a court order just because they wanted too. The internet is getting out of control as far as the .gov are concerned and they don't like all the info spreading so easily it threatens their power base and they want to but the brakes on that and we all know that deep down all but a few politicians on both sides of the isle would prefer unarmed peasants instead of armed citizens and all this spreading of knowledge on how to make your own just ain't good for their long term aspirations.

nanuk
01-18-2012, 08:10 AM
Turbo

that is so true..... all about control and POWER

ku4hx
01-18-2012, 08:15 AM
I'm just soooo underwhelmed.

DODGEM250
01-18-2012, 08:51 AM
It appears to be working well this morning...

UtopiaTexasG19
01-18-2012, 10:15 AM
I agree the government wants control of everything but blacking out ones logo for a day is about as effective as pi**sing on a house fire.

bowenrd
01-18-2012, 10:44 AM
WOW! It still works. I had someone tell me I could trust EVERYTHING on the internet.

Jim Flinchbaugh
01-18-2012, 01:50 PM
well the surprise I go tis Graybeard outdoors in unavailable this morning,
Whoda thunk they would pile on the dog **** pile?

Crawdaddy
01-18-2012, 01:56 PM
I just did a quick browse through the list. Is there any way we can request some of them just stay gone? Lots of whacked out leftist groups.


Yup! Typical left wing agenda. I'm as amused by this as I am the occupy movement. ho-hum.

No_1
01-18-2012, 02:12 PM
Chat should be blazing tomorrow if all those sights take the day off. :bigsmyl2:

turbo1889
01-18-2012, 06:45 PM
I agree the government wants control of everything but blacking out ones logo for a day is about as effective as pi**sing on a house fire.

Yes I agree that Google's form of protest is pretty anemic to say the least. I do use Wiki as a reference (with a grain of salt or two of course) and I think they are a little more serious about it with blacking out their whole site for a whole day.

Google is doing as you say but I think Wiki although not using a fire hose at least has the garden hose out. I agree that a lot of the sites are left-ist orientated but seriously speaking keeping the .gov from stifling free speech is one of the few things that both the far left and the far right (me) can agree on and I would much prefer they devote time and effort to something like this then some of their other causes at least on this one they might do some good instead of messing things up even more.

Kind of like the "occupy" crowd. Some of them are now camping out outside the white-house fence. Took them long enough to figure out where the problem really is and maybe if they had started out there and done a better job of keeping their noses (figuratively speaking in reference to the other stuff) clean they would be viewed more favorably.

Heck; how about a camping out in all of D.C. (the whole place if full of the problem) and casting boolits and loading ammo on benches outside of the tents. Now that would be the real way to send a message.

pastorcurtis
01-18-2012, 11:08 PM
For a great read on "Intellectual Property" try Stephen Kinsella's _Against Intellectual Monopoly_ - available online for free of course!

snuffy
01-19-2012, 12:11 AM
Fox news had about a 2 minute report on this tonight on the Sheppard Smith hour. He said that "SOME" congress critters have withdrawn support for this bill! Looks like some didn't really know just what they were actually supporting.

Looks like those that seem so smart only because they can check wikki, to get a short heads-up on just about anything have had to keep their mouths shut for one day.:roll:

josper
01-19-2012, 04:59 AM
Beware of file sharing sites. Your chances of picking up an unwanted virus is really good.

turbo1889
01-19-2012, 06:38 AM
I don't appose the enforcement of the law against those who steal the works of others for their own profit or to strip the original author his/her opportunity to profit from their work.

The proposed legislation is not, however, about the needful dealing with such varmints who rip of others work it is an internet control law disguised as an anti-pirate law. Seriously why do you think they made it how many hundreds of pages thick an anti-pirate law could fit on a page or two you only make it that big to hide the "other stuff" in it.

Shiloh
01-19-2012, 11:42 AM
I missed it. What, if anything happened??

Shiloh

blackthorn
01-19-2012, 02:04 PM
The problem with allowing ANYONE to censor anything is it usually gets approval based on something most of us feel should be gone anyway, BUT once they have the power they just keep on censoring based on thier particular bias. We had computer censorship in Govt. offices to "stop people from looking at porn"---so OK most people had no problem with that, BUT soon there were other "key" words that blocked access to information I sometimes needed to do my job. I got frustrated because I could not look up information on Gunsmithing as a career for a cliant and I got so PO'd I went to the boss and asked what would happen if I made a finding that the WCB had to send a worker to Colorado for two years based on "that was what the worker said would fix his employment problem"? Needles to say MY access got upgraded quite quickly! SO---while I can agree to some extent with those who disparage this "protest", if we all do nothing we will all lose in the end. BIG BROTHER is Not your friend!

whisler
01-19-2012, 09:38 PM
BIG BROTHER is Not your friend! Amen, and he is not my brother either.

Alan in Vermont
01-21-2012, 11:15 PM
What if they held their strike and no one noticed?

That would be me! Did it really happen?