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[Forrest r]

Did a little casting today with a lyman 4 cavity mold. Most of my casting is done with 4 or 6 cavity molds any more. It was an excellent day for casting, 40+ degrees & sunny. I haven’t cast this bullet in years, I used to have a 2 cavity mold with this bullet & sold it 4 or 5 years ago. I was planning on working up 44 mag loads for a 629 & a contender, trying for loads around 1000fps to 1100fps, nothing hot.

The lead for these bullets is nothing more than range pickings that are air cooled. I was going to water quench them then I decided to cast with this new mold first & see what size the bullets are. I’m glad that I did, the bullets are .4295”. I’m sizing them with a .430 sizer & it’s barely leaving any marks on the bullets and is lubing them. They should be ok for light to medium loads.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/429421-2.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/429421-1.jpg

[williamwaco]

That is my all time favorite for the .44.

It is a great bullet.


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[GLL]

VERY Pretty ! !

It is always nice to have 40-50 pounds of 429421s cast up and ready! :)

Jerry

[LAH]

A 40 pounds day, you did good.

[beagle]

Looks like one of my batches. I then size and lube and stack in 100 round .22 plastic trays ready for loading. Gives you a great feeling when you're feeding two SBHs, a .44 Special Lipsey and a Winchester M94 .44 Mag./beagle

[MtGun44]

Try 10 gr of Unique for the velocity you are looking for. This one has worked extremely well
for me. Another great one in the same velocity range is 9.0 gr Power Pistol. Both are
extremely accurate.

Bill

[Forrest r]

Thank you for the replies, this has always been a good bullet for me. I was getting out of the 44 business all together I ran across a couple deals I couldn't pass up.

I need to pick up more unique, always had excellent result with a 240/250g swc & unique in the 44's. I have 6 or 7 different powders laying around to keep me amused until I buy some more unique.

I do better casting in the summer, getting old & get stiff in the cold weather easier than I used to. I make it for around 3 hours of casting & a 6 pack of beer. I use a cast iron skillet & the base of a turkey frier to stage/melt 30+#'s of lead to ladle into a lee IV 10# pot. I just get the temperature of the lead in the iron skillet dialed in to as close to what I run the lee pot as I can. I knock the sprue's into a seperate bucket & put them back into the iron skillet to remelt. Casting this way allows me to put out some good quanities of bullets in a short period of time.

It's not really the amout of lead being processed in the winter time, it's more like my attention span & getting stiff in the cold that has me basically doing the same # of pours per casting session.

Some lyman 452488's that I cast a week earlier, pretty close to the same # of bullets cast. And yes, another 6 pack.http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/452488-1.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/452488-2.jpg

[Shuz]

Try 10 gr of Unique for the velocity you are looking for. This one has worked extremely well
for me. Another great one in the same velocity range is 9.0 gr Power Pistol. Both are
extremely accurate.

Bill

My favorite 1000-1050 fps load with the 429421 boolit is 8.6g of Green Dot. Very accurate and more rounds per pound!

[1bluehorse]

I vote for 16.5 gr. 2400....:D

[Forrest r]

16.5g of 2400!!!

I guess I should be using pink lube because I'm going for powder puff loads. Just trying to hit the barn door, not knock it down.:-Dhttp://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/forrestr-photo/429421pink.jpg

I did load 10 of them up with 12g of herco to chony with a 10" contender bbl to test the lube at higher velocities. Well, I just now got done sizing them with a lyman 450, been picking at them for a week now.:drinks:

[Lefty SRH]

I like the 429421 boolit in my .44 spl and mag. I need to get a mold for that boolit.

[mdi]

Just yesterday I cast up some '21s with a new-to-me alloy of stick-on wheel weights and clip-on wheel weights, 50-50. Gonna try them in my 629 (which I only will shoot light loads through)with light loads of Unique. My most favorite boolit...

[44man]

I see a lot of boolits but it seems you quit when the dancing girls wore out the pole!
How do you make so many without going nuts? [smilie=l:

[runfiverun]

you can lap that mold some, i have been working over a 429667 a bit at a time.
got it from 428 to just over 429 so far.

[44magLeo]

I like that boolit with 7.5 grs Unique in Special cases and 8.5 in mag cases. Gets you in the 1000 to 1100 fps range. Shoots very well, easy on the gun and hand.
The same boolit with ACWW works well on top of 21-22 grs 2400 in the mag case for a hunting load.
Not only will you hit the barn door and knock it down the whole barn comes down too.
Leo

[ColColt]

The 429421 was my favorite until I tried this one. I's more accurate than even the 429421 (in my M29) which surprised me.

43-260B from Accurate Molds
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x220/ColColt/Misc%20Stuff/_DEF4160a.jpg

[LAH]

Nice ColColt

[Forrest r]

Thank you all for your input & that's a sweet looking bullet ColColt!!!!

I finely made it to the range today to get some initial testing in with this boolit & 2 different pistols, a 10" bbl'd contender & a S&W classic 629.

used 4 different powders & shot 1 6shot group with the 629 & 1 5shot group with the contender for each test load. The only test loads that will be considered for retesting are the loads that had all the bullets touching in the 5 or 6shot groups.
All test groups were shot from a rest @ 50ft.

The powders/loads used:
International clays= 5.0g, 5.5g, 6.0g, 6.5g
Bullseye= 6.0g, 6.5g, 7.0g, 7.5g
HP-38/WW231= 5.5g, 6.0g, 6.5g, 7.0g
clays= 5.0g, 5.5g, 6.0g, 6.5g

The S&W shot groups with all bullets touching with several different test loads.
International clays 5.0g & 6.5g
Bullseye 7.5g
clays 5.5g

The contender shot groups with all bullets touching with:
Bullseye 7.5g
HP-38 6.5g

7.5g of bullseye shot good groups in both pistols with all the bullets touching. The 2 loads that really shined the best/tightest groups for each pistol were the 6.5g load of International clays in the S&W and the 6.5g load of HP-38 in the contender.

I'l be retesting those 3 loads in both pistols at 25 yds with 10 shot groups & then 50yds if need be.

The contender was pickier than the S&W but both pistols shot some excellent groups. I'm going to put a scope on the contender for the 25yd tests.

[Beau Cassidy]

The 429421 was my favorite until I tried this one. I's more accurate than even the 429421 (in my M29) which surprised me.

43-260B from Accurate Molds
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x220/ColColt/Misc%20Stuff/_DEF4160a.jpg

I designed a very similar mold from Mountain Molds probably 5 years ago. Although he didn't do a perfect job cutting the meplate (left some serious tooling marks), it shoots phenomenal. I have drooled over Toms version and am sure it is equally as good.

[nicholst55]

I like the 429421 boolit in my .44 spl and mag. I need to get a mold for that boolit.

There's a Group Buy for an NOE clone going on right now here (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=122019).

[Swampman]

I picked up an Ideal 429421 on ebay for a reasonable price. I use 8 grains of Unique in my .44 Magnums and 7.5 in my .44 Special. It's my favorite powder.