Load info for 7.65x53

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

Seems 5744 is AWOL in my area, so I'm looking for alternatives for powder.
I see some are using Unique, 2400 etc. I have both of these on hand, any idea where to start for 205 grain boolits? ( you'd think with Western Powders being in eastern MT we would have that powder everywhere in NW Montana, not so)
I sent an email request to Alliant you guys might be faster :D

I picked up a can of Trailboss this morning to try as well, BTW, whats up with that coming in a 9 ounce canister? Cheapskates :confused:
We've been downsized again :neutral:

I dont imagine I need to mess with filler with Unique or 2400, correct? Just tip the rifle up before firing?
Thanks!

[Larry Gibson]

Try 28 -30 gr 4895 with a 1/2 - 3/4 gr dacron filler. Won't need to tip the rifle up before firing and accuracy will be very good if the 200 gr cast bullets is GC'd, sized .312 - .314 and has an appropriate lube on it. My standard load with 314299, C312-185 or the GB C314291 in all my 7.65 M91 and M1909s.

Larry Gibson

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

Never mind on the 2400, I didnt see the data for it in the Lyman book the first time, but its there :)
I like 4895, shoots well in other calibers I have

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

Well,I tried my first loads with Trailboss today,
11 grains put 3 in 1-1/2" at 100 yards, and its like shooting a BB gun :)

I discovered the reason for 9 ounce canisters as well. That's all that fits in the standard can! DOH!!

[adrians]

Well,I tried my first loads with Trailboss today,
11 grains put 3 in 1-1/2" at 100 yards, and its like shooting a BB gun :)

I discovered the reason for 9 ounce canisters as well. That's all that fits in the standard can! DOH!!

Jim, i was looking for a load for TB to use in my 91 and you just gave me a starting point ,, i'll start with 10 and go from there.
thanks,,:evil::Bright idea::twisted:

oh and 5744 is a no show here too, why is that?????

[Jim Flinchbaugh]

oh and 5744 is a no show here too, why is that?????


I have no idea, Western Powders said they have LOTS of it, resellers are not ordering it. I'm guessing because it;s not a fast mover. One of our local "reloading specialty stores" told me they couldn't get it. I know this to be a big load of BS now. I aint shoppin' there no more.
Another store did order me some in so I dont have to pay the haz mat fee on shipping anyway

[Dutch4122]

Unique is not position sensitive. Try 13 grains with your 205 grn boolit. Depending on your gun you may be able to work up to 15 grains safely; but 13 grains seems to be almost universal in many of the milsurps. Good accuracy and "B-B Gun" recoil as well.

Hope this helps, :mrgreen:

[adrians]

462,,
IIRC i had the same problem a few years back now,getting my hands on some Varget powder.
i eventually got some, now it's everywhere.
hope it (5744) will emerge soooon!
i only want to try it ,,,thats all[smilie=b:.
have a good-un.
adrians :twisted::coffeecom:evil:

[3006guns]

I was playing with 11-12 grains of TB in my 7.7mm Jap just yesterday, and it's basically the same as the 7.65 Mauser......just longer. Results are looking good but I have to run my 174 gr. boolits at .315 to accomodate my type 99's generous bore though. I'll be trying a heavier (200gr.) boolit next.

If you look at the jug TB comes in, you'll realize it's a 1lb. container. The powder is so light and fluffy they can only get 9oz. in there, but the price is lower so it evens out.

[Bret4207]

My 91 Argie loves the first run Fat 30 and 13.0 Red Dot in Grafs brass. I understand 16.0 2400 is about the same but haven't tried it yet.

[paul edward]

Same load data works for 7.65x53, 7.7x58 and 303 British.
311299 sized .312
12 grains Unique for light load.
20 gr 2400
38 gr Win-748
Back in the 1960s, I used 25 Gr HiVel #2, but it is no longer available.