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mto7464
03-01-2007, 10:50 AM
Anyone have a favorite mold (and load) they use to cast boolits for the m1 carbine? Do you use gas checks?

Poygan
03-01-2007, 02:35 PM
I've only used the Lyman .311359, both with and without the gas check. I use 2400 but the latest listed amount has been reduced from the old 12.5 grains.

9.3X62AL
03-01-2007, 02:45 PM
My "M-1 Carbine" is a levergun (Marlin 62), with Microgroove rifling. It dotes on the Lee Soup Can (113 grain round flat nose) from 1300 to 1900 FPS, and shoots better than j-words in the rifle.

mto7464
03-01-2007, 02:50 PM
poygan, does it cycle readily? Also are you using the #2 alloy as the lyman manual says? What do you size them to?

beagle
03-01-2007, 02:55 PM
I use the Lyman #3118/311008 and bump the nose to a slightly rounder profile for feeding. This is the best combo I've found for the M1 Carbine for plinking or small game.

WC820's a good cheap powder.

Gas checks are optional. I've never had any problem with leading of the gas system but I clean it about every 500 rounds regardless.

The 311359's a good bullet as well but those GCs are getting expensive. Many bullets are suitable. The #254 Saeco, the #302 Saeco, many of the RCBS designs and the Lyman 311576 if you can find one and the 311410 Lyman which is current production.

I find that bullets sized .310" work fine in mine./beagle

Poygan
03-01-2007, 04:57 PM
It cycles just fine. In my early years, I shot them as cast with range scrap w/o gas checks and dipped in 50/50 alox. Now I use wheelweights water dropped and sized .311, with gas checks. I did nose bump a few that were air cooled WWs and ran into chambering problems with the fatter nose.

Larry Gibson
03-01-2007, 05:02 PM
Lyman's 311359, RCBS's 30-115-SP and Lee's C309-120-R are all good cast bullets for the M1 Carbine. All feed well and give very good accuracy (as good as the carbine is capable of) in the 1800-1900 fps range which duplicates factory ballistics. However, if small game is on the menu then Lee's C309-113-F is the best current factory mould avasilble. If you can find one the Lyman's 313631 (105 gr SWC made for .32 H&R) or the 311316 (118 gr FP made for the 32-20) are very good killers in the 1800-1900 fps range out of the M1 Carbine.

All are GC'd bullets which I find necessary for accurate velocities above 1500 fps. There are several PB bullets both RN and FP/SWC in the 95 to 120 gr range that work well up through 1500 fps or so if you don't want to use GCs. I've used a lot of powders in the .30 Carbine range from Unique up through H110. H4427, 2400 and H110 all work fine with the GC'd cast bullets. I've pretty much settled on H110 for my service duplication and top end SWC loads. After all that is the powder that was made for the .30 Carbine.

Larry Gibson
With the SWC

rmb721
03-01-2007, 05:51 PM
I use a Lyman #311410 plain base 130 grain bullet with 12 grains of IMR-4227. Easily functions the action and is accurate enough for me for plinking.

garandsrus
03-01-2007, 09:58 PM
mto7464,

There is a group buy going on right now for a .30 Carbine boolit if you are interested.

John

mto7464
03-01-2007, 10:38 PM
do you have a link to the group buy, I can't seem to find it.

Never mind I found it.

Newtire
03-03-2007, 09:04 AM
poygan, does it cycle readily? Also are you using the #2 alloy as the lyman manual says? What do you size them to?

Hi mto,
If you are talking M1 carbine military style then I can help. The Universal carbine (civilian) is not the same animal at all. Some guys here shoot the Lee "soup can" but most carbines I have seen hang on feeding with that one.

I use the Lee 120 gr. RN alot with a gas check. I used to use the #2 alloy (a good mix) but have been using just wheelweights dropped into cold water from the mould. My best load is 12.5 gr Win. 296 with a standard small rifle primer.
I have used 12.5 gr. H-4227 also and got great performance.
Another load with that same boolit is 8.5 gr. BlueDot. I think I would tend to be real careful with charge weights in that little round as it is already operating close to max pressure with these loads and these all function the action every time. I am going to try AA1680 and AA#9 eventually but no time at present to do anything like that.

I have used either Lee Liquid Alox, the Carnauba Red lube a guy on here sells, or good old Felix lube. I am up to my eyeballs in lube so haven't tried others that I am sure would work as well. Sized to .309" seems to be the general consensus but try in your gun. Another real real accurate one is the Lyman 311359.

Invest in (or make) a gas piston nut wrench to clean out the gas piston every 500 shots or so. It really doesn't get that bad only with carbon in mine.

Most fun plinking gun I own!

yodar
03-03-2007, 12:18 PM
Anyone have a favorite mold (and load) they use to cast boolits for the m1 carbine? Do you use gas checks?

Lyman 311359

13 gr 4227 No gas chex

yodar