question about diamond tipped bullets

[bunkerguy]

what affect would they have? are they illegal?

[Hickory]

You haven't been watching a lot of James Bond movies, have you?:kidding:

[wiljen]

would make for very expensive bullet that produced lots of diamond dust on impact. While extremely hard, diamonds are not particularly ductile and would vaporize on impact without having much of any effect on hard objects. Don't believe me, put a diamond on an anvil and smack it with a hammer. It wont be the hammer that breaks. (And SWMBO will likely kill you for breaking her diamond so for obvious reasons I don't recommend this experiment).

[Crawdaddy]

Diamonds=bad, silver = good. Good werewolf defense that is.

[ku4hx]

If the diamond tipped bullet only wounds, the person being shot will get diamond dust in their veins and will forever more crave pink guns.

[waksupi]

Considering there is well over 50,000 years of cast boolit experience on this board, and no one has yet seen fit to play with that particular notion, I would suggest it is a waste of time.
However, there is always someone who wants to re-invent the wheel.....

[stubshaft]

If the diamond tipped bullet only wounds, the person being shot will get diamond dust in their veins and will forever more crave pink guns.

I think that if you are shooting diamond boolits you already OWN pink guns.:kidding:

[littlejack]

Hey fellas, anyone remember waaaaaaaaaaaayyy back to the original Star Trek tv programs?
Cap't Kirk took out a "lizard man creature" on another planet with diamonds for projectiles. He was running around, trying to elude said creature whilst he took handfulls of sulfur, charcoal and potasium to make his propellant for his hand cannon.
The diamonds did the job.
Jack

[nvbirdman]

What effect would they have?
They would rapidly deplete your bank account.

[olafhardt]

I like to use 2 carat stones in a Lee double ended wad cutter. I put the stones in the mold then pour it full of molten pure tin. Pure tin necessary besause it melts at low temperatures and doesn't scortch the diamond. I tried cerrosafe but it just cost to much. These boolits really scratched up the barrel of my Martha Stooart custom Hipoint, but it was covered by the warranty

[BulletFactory]

They would be pretty.

[evan price]

Anyone you shot would be dazzled by the blinding reflection of light from the facets and unable to duck.

NO, really, it wouldn't be any use. The lead would be softer and the diamond would push back into the lead if it hit a harder surface.

The cast lead boolit is quite good enough at penetrating the hides of most things that need perforation.
I know guys that seem to always be preparing for the opening of hunting season on Blue-Helmeted Interlopers, and they have done some research on target effectiveness.
If it is hardened (like a Blue Helmeted Interloper) think monolithic solids such as the Barnes Banded Solids or load up some black-tip AP. Even the SS109 .223 is better than nothing but it isn't even considered AP by the ATF. Recently ATF raided an ammo company for loading the Barnes Banded in 22 caliber (223, FN 5.7, etc) citing the use of 22-caliber ARs making it now a pistol caliber.

[303Guy]

are they illegal?It's hard to imagine they would be illegal. Why would anyone think of such a law? As to the effect? Well, one would need to establish what size diamond is being considered. It might facilitate boolit expansion by forming a 'hollow nose' under the diamond. One could find out by substituting a light but harder than lead material like aluminium for testing. A step further would be a ceramic tip but starts to get expensive. What sort of target material were you thinking of?

[ku4hx]

Hey fellas, anyone remember waaaaaaaaaaaayyy back to the original Star Trek tv programs?
Cap't Kirk took out a "lizard man creature" on another planet with diamonds for projectiles. He was running around, trying to elude said creature whilst he took handfulls of sulfur, charcoal and potasium to make his propellant for his hand cannon.
The diamonds did the job.
Jack

Yep, "Arena" originally broadcast January 19, 1967; my junior year in college. Which was "waaaaaaaaaaaayyy" back then. :drinks:

[kelbro]

I load them up as buckshot. I use cubic zirconia for practice though.

[Bret4207]

what affect would they have? are they illegal?

Now that everyone has raked you over the coals for asking, can I ask why and where you came up with this idea?

[Jammer Six]

I use cubic zirconia for practice though.
Ah, the MIM of diamond ammo.

I foresee thousands of threads starting with new boolit casters asking "how can I make sure my diamond rounds don't have zirconia in them?" and I foresee "cubic zirconia" getting abbreviated to "cubzirc" and "CZ".

Flee. Flee in terror. Warn others.

[405]

Hey fellas, anyone remember waaaaaaaaaaaayyy back to the original Star Trek tv programs?
Cap't Kirk took out a "lizard man creature" on another planet with diamonds for projectiles. He was running around, trying to elude said creature whilst he took handfulls of sulfur, charcoal and potasium to make his propellant for his hand cannon.
The diamonds did the job.
Jack

:) Yes I remember watching that episode on its original run.

[docone31]

You can hammer with a diamond, but you cannot hammer a diamond.
I can re-tip rings with diamonds, there is no scorching. I do suspact though, if you cast a diamond into a casting like that, on firing, there might be a lot of dust.
Might do good on paper though.

[Moonman]

The ULTIMATE BLING for the RAP CROWD??????:veryconfu

[Beerd]

what does the OP mean by "diamond tipped" bullets?
maybe the obvious ain't so obvious
..

[jlchucker]

Diamonds=bad, silver = good. Good werewolf defense that is.

That's true enough!

[mrbill2]

Hello Bunkerguy. Don't let anyone talk you out of your idea. I'm here to help !! I don't know how they would shoot or if they would be legal and don't care.
But I'm willing to give them a try. Send me a couple boxes, BIG boxes.

[NSP64]

He may be on to something.

The only true way to divorce a Kardasian. Lol

[GLL]

I think bunkerguy may not be referring to "diamond" as in mineral/gemstone but to the pentagonal "diamond"-shaped hollow points such as those on the Mihec Group Buy molds ! ??

Jerry

http://www.fototime.com/D6878E63251DE4C/standard.jpg
Photo by Springfield

[waksupi]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! That would make sense, and not catch near as much flak! :lol:


I think bunkerguy may not be referring to "diamond" as in mineral/gemstone but to the pentagonal "diamond"-shaped hollow points such as those on the Mihec Group Buy molds ! ??

Jerry

http://www.fototime.com/D6878E63251DE4C/standard.jpg

[ku4hx]

If the question is about pentagon shaped nose cavities, why the question of legality? OP???

[303Guy]

Hee hee. :oops: I knew what he meant all along![smilie=1:

[ku4hx]

Looks like more than one question has been asked about "diamond tipped bullets".
http://www.google.com/search?q=diamond+tipped+bullets&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[littlejack]

Boy, am I glad other members had seen that episode of Star Trek. I was beginning to think that it was a figment of my OLD imagination.

[Rocky Raab]

I rather suspect that bunkerguy has a touch of adolescentitis, in which anything that is the mostest is automatically assumed to be the bestest. A side symptom is the belief that unlimited amounts of money just happen.

[dakotashooter2]

They use those for "knocking off" Divas don't they.....................

[Fixxah]

They will shoot through two school buses AND a school.

Definitely illegal.

Sent from the Hyundai of the droids, the Samsung Replenish, using Tapatalk.

[Crawdaddy]

Boy, am I glad other members had seen that episode of Star Trek. I was beginning to think that it was a figment of my OLD imagination.

If my memory serves me correctly, didnt Kirk refuse to finish off the Lizard for someone elses amusement?

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

I got a funny notion that the OP is talking about moulds like the 360 156gr SP that produce a pencil point nose.

If so; No, they are not illegal to cast or shoot.

Rich

insert smiley face here...

[littlejack]

CRAWDADDY:
That is correct. He go an atta-boy from the powers that be for doing, or not doing so.
Very good memory.

[Crawdaddy]

Me thinks we scared the OP away. I feel kinda bad.

[littlejack]

Must be our age.

[waksupi]

If it was a hollow point question, he should have told us we were a bunch of old Luddite fools, and explained it to us. Sometimes you just need to get our attention first!

[para45lda]

Not to hijack but regarding the Star Trek episode. I remember it as being the first time I heard the formula.

for black powder.

Always think of it when dealing with BP.

Wes

[littlejack]

Yes, we appologize for the tv history trivea. No harm meant.
I had known about the recipe, but had never heard it brought up on a tv series.

[nvbirdman]

I call dibs on permission to mine the berm.

[Jammer Six]

If my memory serves me correctly, didnt Kirk refuse to finish off the Lizard for someone elses amusement?
No, he shot him and then refused to kill him for amusement, thereby winning the respect of the folks who put him on the planet.

It was a clear case of failure to win the fight.

[Canuck Bob]

Diamond tipped bullets strangely reminds me of my ex-wife.

[Oreo]

Y'all keep in mind that diamonds are not particularly rare or expensive. Think industrial grade diamonds, not gem stones.

[Snyd]

With the correct velocity the diamond tipped boolit should be able to cut through glass... just sayin....

[DLCTEX]

I must say my first thought was of the penta point boolits. Sure got some responses going though. LOL

[turbo1889]

I think the OP would have got much more serious responses with far less flack if he had said "carbide tipped" instead of "diamond tipped".

[Jammer Six]

I think the OP would have got much more serious responses with far less flack if he had said "carbide tipped" instead of "diamond tipped".
What about flak tipped?

Enquiring Minds Want To Know!

[btroj]

Make sure ou keep tha bullet centered, can you imagine the bore wear with a diamond going down the inside of the barrel?

[ghh3rd]

Instead of that kind of "ice", why not just make projectiles out of frozen water... much less expensive, and just as unusual.

[Jammer Six]

What kind of heater do you smelt ice with?