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RugerFan
02-25-2007, 08:33 PM
I had this e-mailed to me. Can't verify it, but an entertaining story none the less.


Deer Roping

I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a
stall, feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat
it. The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that
since they congregated at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much
fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up
and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4
feet away) that it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and
toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport
it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope.
The cattle, who had seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They
were not having any of it. After about 20 minutes my deer showed up - 3
of them. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of
the feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at
me. I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would
have a good hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you
could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation. I
Took a step towards it...it took a step away. I put a little tension on
the rope and received an education.

The first thing that I learned is that while a deer may just stand
There looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action
When you start pulling on that rope. That deer EXPLODED.

The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a
LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range
I could fight down with a rope with some dignity. A deer? No chance.
That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no
controlling it and certainly no getting close to it! As it jerked me off
my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me
That having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I
Originally imagined. The only up side is that they do not have as much
Stamina as many animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not
Nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get
up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded
by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head.

At that point I had lost my taste for corn fed venison. I just
wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope. I figured if
I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely
Die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all
between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing and I would
Venture a guess that the feeling was mutual. Despite the gash in
My head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested
The deer's momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it
Dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to
Recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount
Of responsibility for the situation we were in. I didn't want the deer
to have to suffer a slow death so I managed to get it lined back up in
Between my truck and the feeder - a little trap I had set before
Hand. Kind of like a squeeze chute. I got it to back in there and
Started moving up so I could get my rope back.

Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years
would have thought that a deer would bite somebody so I was very
Surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed
Hold of my wrist. Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit
by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you
and shakes its head - almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it
hurts.
The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze
and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method
was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for
several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds. I, being
Smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now)
Tricked it. While I kept it busy tearing the bejesus out of my right
Arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose.

That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day.
Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on
their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and
their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that when
an animal like a horse strikes at you with their hooves and you can't
get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and
make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will usually cause them
to back down a bit so you can escape. This was not a horse. This was a
deer, so obviously such trickery would not work. In the course of a
millisecond, I devised a different strategy. I screamed like a woman and
tried to turn and run.
The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from
a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit
you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses
after all, besides being twice as strong and three times as evil,
because the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the
head and knocked me down. Now when a deer paws at you and knocks you
down it does not immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that
the danger has passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up
and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little
girl and covering your head. I finally managed to crawl under the truck
and the deer went away.

Now for the local legend. I was pretty beat up. My scalp was split
open, I had several large goose eggs, my wrist was bleeding pretty good
and felt broken (it turned out to be just badly bruised) and my back was
bleeding in a few places, though my insulated canvas jacket had
protected me from most of the worst of it. I drove to the nearest place,
which was the Co-Op. I got out of the truck, covered in blood and dust
and looking like hell. The guy who ran the place saw me through the
window and came running out yelling, "What happened?"
I have never seen any law in the state of Kansas that would
prohibit an individual from roping a deer. I suspect that this is an
area that they have overlooked entirely. Knowing, as I do, the lengths
to which law enforcement personnel will go to exercise their power, I
was concerned that they may find a way to twist the existing laws to
paint my actions as criminal. I swear...not wanting to admit that I had
done something monumentally stupid played no part in my response. I told
him "I was attacked by a deer". I did not mention that at the time
I had a rope on it. The evidence was all over my body. Deer prints on
the back of my jacket where it had stomped all over me and a large deer
print on my face where it had struck me there. I asked him to call
somebody to come get me. I didn't think I could make it home on my own.
He did.

Later that afternoon, a game warden showed up at my house and
wanted to know about the deer attack. Surprisingly, deer attacks are a
rare thing and wildlife and parks was interested in the event. I tried
to describe the attack as completely and accurately as I could. I was
filling the grain hopper and this deer came out of nowhere and just
started kicking the hell out of me and BIT me. It was obviously rabid or
insane or something.

EVERYBODY for miles around knows about the deer attack (the guy at
the Co-Op has a big mouth). For several weeks people dragged their kids
in the house when they saw deer around and the local ranchers carried
rifles when they filled their feeders. I have told several people the
story, but NEVER anybody around here. I have to see these people every
day and as an outsider - a "city folk". I have enough
trouble fitting in without them snickering behind my back and
whispering, "There is the ******* that tried to rope the deer!"

45 2.1
02-25-2007, 08:47 PM
Now I have to clean my monitor off, but it sure was a good story.

onceabull
02-25-2007, 09:14 PM
In the line shacks spotted across the summer range the association buckaroos still talk about two of their brethren who ,aware of the two legendary figures who successfully lassoed and grounded an elk,decided to try on a bull moose.. story has varying # of paragraphs,dependent on the tellers assessment of the audience(s) intellect...:roll: Onceabull

redneckdan
02-25-2007, 11:34 PM
decided to try on a bull moose..

why doesn't this sound like a good idea?

MT Gianni
02-26-2007, 12:24 AM
I had a buddy that swore he would bulldog one if I could get him close enough on the flatbed. My excuse was I could never get a hazer on the other side. I was never confused with high intellect in my youth but do recall some fun times. gianni.

44woody
02-26-2007, 12:38 AM
this sounds like those 3 famous words just before the trip to the hospital "HAY WATCH THIS "

Slowpoke
02-26-2007, 01:57 AM
Many moons ago I was helping my Uncle brand calves, and when we closed up the trap at the water tank there were three pronghorn in with the cows, at the end of the day when we opened the gate those three pronghorn left with his ear mark.

During that same time I had a Appaloosa Gelding I kept mainly for hunting, Anaconda Mining corp. had many, many mining claims on the North end of the Santa Rita MTNS South of Tucson, they had several mounted security guards up in the hills 7 days a week, to make a long story short I leased my horse to the mine for nine months of the year, and two of those guards, ex cowboys/ jackpot ropers roped a bear and stretched it out, killed it, they got in some trouble but none to serious with the law.

I spent some time on a ranch in E. Oregon, they kept a buck in a stall in the horse barn, this ranch kept cat and bear hounds and used the deer to break the young dogs off deer with a shock collar, I asked Tommy how they got the deer he said I roped it.

I have snagged quite a few deer both whitetail and muledeer over the years in foothold traps in trail sets and sets baited with catnip or peppermint, was never a big deal releasing them, never had one try to bite me :), you can twist there ear good and hard and lead em anywhere you want.

good luck

AkMike
02-26-2007, 02:49 AM
This rerminds me of a guy from "Sillydotna" south of here that tried to ride a moose.
He fed it just below his sun-deck of the house and one day after a few brews he worked up courage to jump on while it was being filmed.
He didn't make it too far but I reacll that the local media got a copy and showed it off. Fish and Game cops used it to get him in alot of trouble. They have no sense of humor!

carpetman
02-26-2007, 02:59 AM
My wifes uncle and his son in law roped a deer in the water. They got a very stiff fine for harassing the deer.

DLCTEX
02-26-2007, 09:35 AM
In 1964 I was cowboying in SE Oklahoma and was with five old boys one day when we spotted a deer that had been raised by a family that had moved away and left it. The deer was wearing a dog collar, and wasn't too afraid of humans. We decided we'd better catch it and take it to the ranch. One old boy was about 6'2, 220, and pretty macho, said he'd ease out there and catch it , then we could come help him. The moonshine we were drinking probably didn't cloud his thinking too much. He sweet talked that deer into letting him get close enough to lunge and grab the collar, then the explosion occurred. By the time we were able to run out to help(it's hard to run when you're laughing histerically), the deer had his shirt and jeans in shreds. We all fell on it and managed to subdue it by the weight of so many bodies. Then someone fetched a rope to tie it's legs, NOT! We half hitched it's legs from bottom to top, but as soon as we took our hands off it would kick the rope off. We tried a gunny sack, those sharp hooves sliced it like it was paper. Finally four of us held it down in the back of the truck, until we got to the barn, where we kept it in the feed room a few days before turning it out into the lot. It sailed over the 7' fence and left the country. Dale

Char-Gar
02-26-2007, 10:13 AM
Over the years, I have heard of several folks roping deer in Texas with the result described above. It is pretty much like roping a tornado.

I have spent some time on ranches in Mexico and down there I saw Vaqueros rope deer on several occasions. The do it head and heel and when the deer is stretched out it's throat is cut with a machete. They do it on a regular basis

9.3X62AL
02-26-2007, 10:53 AM
Kinda helps explain why sheep and cattle were domesticated--and deer weren't. I imagine this lesson learned thousands of years ago needs occasional reinforcement.

Scrounger
02-26-2007, 10:56 AM
Kinda helps explain why sheep and cattle were domesticated--and deer weren't. I imagine this lesson learned thousands of years ago needs occasional reinforcement.

I have heard the term 'goat roper'; what's that about?

carpetman
02-26-2007, 01:28 PM
Scrounger--There is a sort of rodeo event called goat roping. I think only time I ever saw it was in Idaho. They had girls participating in it and they didn't actually rope the goat. The goat was staked with about a 15 foot rope and the girls ran to the rope and went to the end and caught the goat and tied 3 of it's legs. From google it seems there is a version of goat roping where the goats are actually roped--I've never seen it. I guess it's in the kid's catagory( no pun)of mutton busting. Mutton busting consists of a bout 6-8 year old boys (and sometimes girls)being let out of the chute on a ewe and goal is to see how long before they fall off. Goat roper usually refers to someone that dresses cowboy but is not--like drugstore cowboy.

7br
02-26-2007, 01:32 PM
A humorous sidenote also from the state of Kansas. Last tuesday was a club meeting for Young Hunters'. One of members is a rancher and told us about a buck that attacked a ranch truck with a couple of his hands in it. The hands radioed him and asked him what to do. He said if they had a rope to get out and rope it. He called the Dept of Wildlife and Parks and he had officers from five or six surrounding counties descend on his ranch. They didn't believe the hands until they saw the 30 minutes of video the hands had on a camcorder. Turns out the guy had captured a picture of the deer earlier in the year with a huge abcess on its neck. They are theorizing the infection travelled to the brain and royally screwed it up.

Scrounger
02-26-2007, 02:43 PM
Thanks for the explanation, CarpetMan. By the way, I have a terrific new avatar for you but I think I should email it to you for approval.

Shepherd2
02-26-2007, 05:58 PM
Carpetman doesn't need to change his avatar. BTW I've been known to rope a sheep from time to time.

Four Fingers of Death
02-27-2007, 07:21 AM
Next time, anchor the rope to the back of the truck, rope him, run like crazy and get in the truck and drive around the paddock till it tires, get out and get the crap beaten out of you again. :D

Underclocked
02-27-2007, 12:27 PM
http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/10922/2002405649034392055_fs.jpg

:)

redbear705
02-27-2007, 12:57 PM
Deer Roping.....Ha! That is a Good One!

When I worked at a sporting goods store a guy used to come in all the time buying goods.

One day he came in all cut up and he was looking pretty badly beat up....when I asked what happened he told me he and his buddies found a fawn along side the road stuck in a fence....so he went out and freed it...but it was so scared it stood up and hammered him with its hooves and absolutley shredded his brand new $500 leather coat he just got.

Man he was too funny to look at!!!!

Not to mention I was laughing at his story so hard, I had to run to the jon to stop from peeing myself!

JR

DLCTEX
02-27-2007, 01:14 PM
Wife caught me admiring carpetmans avitar, I weaseled out by telling her I was just thinking how it reminded me of her when we married. DALE

Scrounger
02-27-2007, 01:57 PM
Wife caught me admiring carpetmans avitar, I weaseled out by telling her I was just thinking how it reminded me of her when we married. DALE


You should see the one he wants to post but doesn't have the cajones...

Dale53
02-27-2007, 02:19 PM
No good turn goes unpunished...

Dale53

waksupi
02-27-2007, 09:41 PM
A couple years ago, I was on some land I caretake, and hunt elk on. I knew there was a big bull on the place, and apparently someone else did, too. I found a pile of mineral dumped on top of an old stump. Then, they had rounded up some small lodgepole, and rigged a lasso of some 3/4 nylon rope. I dismantaled the trap, and through the poles back across the property line. I got about 40 feet of rope out of the deal.
Good thing he didn't catch one. I used the rope later to try and drag an elk up the hillside, and it broke before I had moved the carcass ten feet. Something tells me. it wouldn't have held the bull.