215 gr .44 booilt -- 9.6 gr Titegroup in mag case for a plinker?

[ghh3rd]

I have a few hundred .44 cal 215 gr PB boolits to dispose of, and will load them for some casual plinking.

I couldn't find loads in my books, but found a couple of Cowboy Action sites that listed 5.0 and 5.9 gr of Titegroup. I'm thinking of using the 5.9 gr load, with non magnum primers. I have no idea of the alloy in these boolits, but they are sized .4305, so I'm hoping this will be a leading free load.

Does this sound reasonable? Also, any issues from using such a small amount of powder in a .44 mag case?

Randy

[EDK]

I shot a lot of 200 grain wadcutters with 5.0 of TITEGROUP in 44 Special brass in my VAQUEROS.

:Fire::cbpour::redneck:

[runfiverun]

i use 6.0 in my 45 colt cases with 200 and 255 gr boolits so the 5.9 in a 44 mag case sounds about right.
i use 4.2 titegroup in a special case with a 240 lee swc and it's quite light compared to the 7.0 unique in them with the 429421.

the biggest thing you gotta worry about is a double charge, so look in those cases.

[evan price]

I load 6 grains Titegroup with a 240 SWC in my SRH 44 mag and they shoot like a 38 special in that huge gun.

[MakeMineA10mm]

Your title says 9.6grs, and I was ready to jump in with a yellow flag, but I see it must be a typo.

FWIW, I tried Titegroup and gave up on it. It's too fast to be flexible enough for me - think of it as Hodgdon's competitor to Alliant's Bullseye, so it's at the extreme fast end. Doesn't work well with heavier loads. I find using start to middle loads best with these powders, and I've never gotten good results with the max-end (though well within the books' recommendations) loads.

[ghh3rd]

Your title says 9.6grs, and I was ready to jump in with a yellow flag, but I see it must be a typo.

Holy cow - where did I get 9.6 from? At least it's only a typo, not the 'real thing' :roll:


I load 6 grains Titegroup with a 240 SWC in my SRH 44 mag and they shoot like a 38 special in that huge gun.

Mine's a SBH 44 Mag - big gun with a little boolit should be fun. My 14 yr old son cant stand too many of my full house loads with 310 gr boolits over 21.5 gr of 296.

[bobthenailer]

i shoot alot of saeco #420, 200 gr tc in my 44 mags its my go to bullet for 95 % of my shooting
Ive shot this bullet out of 7, 44 mags with excellent accuracy . loaded in 44 mag cases with LPP
5.5 gr of Tightgroup @ 800 fps
7.0 gr of Tightgroup @ 980 fps
13.0 gr of HS6--------@ 1,300 fps / mag primer

[x101airborne]

Try a starting load of SR-4759 with a standard primer. No chance of a double charge as far as I know. AND it is the most accurate load in my 44 special in a special case. I could see it doing just as well in a magnum case. This could actually turn into my new favorite powder for using up case capacity and not making a magnum load. In my 44 special testing, my accuracy came from the lower charges. 230 grain Jim custom wad cutter, WLP primer, winchester cases. 20 yard test range, 4 rounds into one ragged hole, then I boned it up and threw the last shot. (5 shot revolver). Outside to outside group was less than 3/4 inch for 4 shots.

[Ole]

I settled on 10 grains of Unique for my light 44 (200gr RNFP) loads. Main reason is I load it on a progressive and a double charge of Unique is dang near impossible to not notice. I use a powder cop die, but you can never be too careful. I learned to reload on a single stage and I'll never fully trust the machine.

If you're loading in a single stage, then tightgroup should work fine.

[Lizard333]

I use 9.3 grains of win 231. Very accurate.


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[TCLouis]

9.3 231 was absolutely the most accurate load with the 429215 (215 grain SWC GC boolit).

Listed in #3 as the accuracy load also.

[paul edward]

I have a Lee 429-214 mold which drops these at 218 grains. Have used these in 44 Russian, 44 Special and 44 Magnum. As this is a plain base bullet I only load it to modest velocities.

Loads include 6 grains Unique in the 44 Russian and 8 grains in the 44 Magnum.
Also have used 5 grains of Bullseye.

For heavier loads, I prefer gas check boolits.

[targetshootr]

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[x101airborne]

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Oh, boy. Here we go.

Might use spell check there, hand.

[fredj338]

I admit to being a TG hater. I see no need for a powder that occupies so little case volumn & operates on such a steep pressure curve. It's only real value, it's low cost. Since powder is the cheapest part of any handgun reload, I never let powder cost determine what I choose. Your suggested load of 9.6gr is pushing very hard. Why? If you want higher vel w/ a lead bullet, move to a slower powder & spend the 1c/rd more. Unique would be a better choice or even 2400 for that high a vel.

[MakeMineA10mm]

I admit to being a TG hater. I see no need for a powder that occupies so little case volumn & operates on such a steep pressure curve. It's only real value, it's low cost. Since powder is the cheapest part of any handgun reload, I never let powder cost determine what I choose. Your suggested load of 9.6gr is pushing very hard. Why? If you want higher vel w/ a lead bullet, move to a slower powder & spend the 1c/rd more. Unique would be a better choice or even 2400 for that high a vel.

Yep, large charges of fast powder, even with light boolits, have never been a great performer for me. BUT, the important thing, my good friend Fred, is that we've already established the OP had a typo in his title, and he has no intention of using the heavier charge listed.

I haven't checked the max load for TG, but that 9.6 might still be within published boundaries with this light of a bullet. That's why I earlier said yellow instead of red flag... Still, even though it might be safe, I found long ago certain powders (mostly the seedier-burning variety) don't like being pushed near or to their max. Technically, still safe, but mediocre accuracy and sharp blast equals not interesting to me...

I too am an admitted TG hater, but I think the more moderate loads suggested (which the OP appears most interested in) will serve him nicely to dispose of those excess boolits he's trying to rid himself of.

[ghh3rd]

Settled on 5.9 gr TiteGroup, for now... loaded 50 of them, and 50 with 8.0 gr Unique. Should be a bit different than my full house loads :-)

(wish there was a way to edit the title of a thread - sorry for the confusion)