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Lizard333
12-04-2011, 09:56 PM
I have some 308 152 jacketed ball ammo that came from pulled ammo. Some of them has some marks on the slug from when they were pulled. First question is can sizing these help take the marks out? Second what top punch would I use? Thanks!!!

sqlbullet
12-04-2011, 10:20 PM
You can try. I would use some case lube on them. I would also use a push through die from lee. Then nose punch doesnt matter. Also if you mess up the die it wont be like you lost much.

Ickisrulz
12-04-2011, 10:22 PM
http://www.ch4d.com/catalog/?p=89

CH4d makes bullet sizing dies.

Jim
12-04-2011, 10:40 PM
The marks are from a tool that caught hold of the bullet outside the case mouth. That part of the bullet does not engage the riflings. Sizing will only affect the area that does engage the rifling. Sizing these bullets will not remove the marks nor will it increase the quality or accuracy of the bullet in any way.

littlejack
12-05-2011, 12:07 AM
Lizard 333:
I have sized down .323 jacketed to .314 very easily with the Lee push through sizer. Just needs a little lube.
Jack

Jim
12-05-2011, 11:42 AM
Lizard 333:
I have sized down .323 jacketed to .314 very easily with the Lee push through sizer. Just needs a little lube. Jack

I sure wish you'd show me the trick! A few years ago, I got hold of a thousand .323 jacketed bullets and wanted to size them down to .312 for use in a .303. I had to build a hydraulic sizer to get them through a .312 sizer die.

http://maliaphotos.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/p10100012-e1323099697208.jpg

Rocky Raab
12-05-2011, 12:18 PM
First, the marks are meaningless. There will be no difference between them and virgin bullets whatsoever that you could detect.

Second, because jacket material has some degree of "springback" but lead does not, anything more than very minimal sizing will result in a loose core. Accuracy will be nil.

Reload3006
12-05-2011, 12:21 PM
the only exception to the above is if you run them through a point form die. But that still may not get the pull marks out but will uniform the bullet shape.

Sonnypie
12-05-2011, 12:45 PM
If you use an inertia puller (http://quinetics.com/puller.html) next time, you won't get collet marks. ;)

I've done literally thousands of bullets and nary a mark.

sqlbullet
12-05-2011, 12:52 PM
If you use an inertia puller (http://quinetics.com/puller.html) next time, you won't get collet marks. ;)

I've done literally thousands of bullets and nary a mark.

Pretty sure the OP is buying pull-downs. So, he is stuck since he isn't doing the pulling.

jhrosier
12-05-2011, 12:58 PM
I've used the Lee push through sizer to resize jacketed bullets from .312 down to .308.
It worked well for me, using a dab of Lee case lube to ease them through the die.

Jack

Lizard333
12-05-2011, 02:15 PM
Pretty sure the OP is buying pull-downs. So, he is stuck since he isn't doing the pulling.

This is the case. I bought them in bulk. The messed up thing is their is pull marks on and below the canoluver (probly spelled that wrong but you know I mean). I was hoping to just take off this edge.

Sonnypie
12-05-2011, 02:27 PM
Pretty sure the OP is buying pull-downs. So, he is stuck since he isn't doing the pulling.

Well, in that case never mind. [smilie=s:

I wouldn't buy, nor have I ever sold, any bullets I wouldn't load myself.

Bullets I pulled (Inertia):
http://home.earthlink.net/~pie/Sonny's/P9070029.JPG

And bullets I sold (Tumbled 1 hour in SST media): (Same bullets)
http://home.earthlink.net/~pie/Sonny's/P9130032.JPG

I do collet pull occasionally myself. But gently.

If they're are enough, melt the lead out and use it to cast later. Scrap the jackets. ;)

Sonnypie
12-05-2011, 02:45 PM
This is the case. I bought them in bulk. The messed up thing is their is pull marks on and below the canoluver (probly spelled that wrong but you know I mean). I was hoping to just take off this edge.

Below the cantilever is probably case markings. Maybe sealant or light corrosion.
Try tumbling them in media for a bit and see how they look.

Also, below the cantilever is the area distorted by the rifling anyway. You might try loading some and shooting them before trying to fix them.
Might make it simpler. ;-)

frkelly74
12-05-2011, 05:23 PM
I have push through resized some pulls that I bought in a gnarled up condition so that they would seat in a case. They were okay for banging away with.





And I think the word you're looking for is cannelure according to the wiktionary. I think it's French for groovy.

BAGTIC
12-17-2011, 12:30 AM
I have push through resized some pulls that I bought in a gnarled up condition so that they would seat in a case. They were okay for banging away with.

And I think the word you're looking for is cannelure according to the wiktionary. I think it's French for groovy.



We need to cut Sonny some slack. After all he is from California.