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GOPHER SLAYER
12-03-2011, 03:05 PM
I am sure you have taken note of all the new reality gun shows that have appeared on the tv. Oh how the bull---- does build. The latest of these shows is called, READY AIM SOLD. It is about a auction house that deals in guns. I think it is located in Illinois. On the first episode they featured a Winchester 1873- ONE OF ONE THOUSAND. The rifle had been in a mans possession for many years and he paid sixty grand for it. The owner of the auction house was sure it would sell for over one hundred thousand. When he asked an expert to look at it , the man was skepticle. Well you could tell from twenty yards away that the rifle was a fake. After they had printed their catalog a man called and informed them that he owned the Winchester with the same serial number. They rifle was put up for sale anyway. Instead of saying the rifle was a fake, he called it a copy, with it's own history. It sold for thirty grand . The next gun he went on cloud nine about was a Colt .45 single action. The owner of the auction house went into fits over the pistol. When the owner of the pistol refused to sell the piece he was asked if they could display it at gun shows where they went to buy guns. The owner agreed. Now the frame on the Colt appeared to be purple,which is a sure sign someone had tried to blue the gun. The camera only focuses on any one item for a split second but in this case it appeared to be enough. There are at least four of these new gun realated shows, so it gives me lots to nitpic but I guess even a bad show about guns is better than everthing else on the tube. I just can't get over the degree of ignorance these so called gun experts display.

454PB
12-03-2011, 03:44 PM
I liked the one the other night on "American Guns". They converted a 7mm Magnum to a .458 Lott. This is a $5000 conversion......and the gunsmith finds during the test firing that the chambering reamer was bad. I'm no gunsmith, but I have used various reamers in machining procedures. I think I'd spot a bad reamer before I used it on a new barrel.

The owner of this business uses a helicopter to fly to his various customers homes for buying/selling guns.

If anybody landed a helicopter in my backyard to sell me a gun, I think I'd shy away from the deal.

Still, even bad TV gun shows are better than no TV gun shows.

mold maker
12-03-2011, 04:03 PM
Regardless of how we think about the shows, any positive promotion of guns is a positive for all of us. Up until now, only the Duke and Clint got my attention. I welcome these new additions even with all the BS.

Bad Water Bill
12-03-2011, 06:43 PM
The sad part is that someone took the supposed experts word and paid $30,000 for a real fake and the expert knew it. Not good for our reputation.

Lee
12-03-2011, 06:54 PM
I'm begining to disagree. I think no shows are better than these thieving, lying, drooling, knuckle dragging cretins running off at the mouth about this and that. Make no mistake, although there are a lot of folks out there who know nothing about GUNS, they can spot a carpetbagger when they see one. And my opinion is that paints a less than desirable picture for all of us.
No way would I want to be seen standing next to any of the "Suns-a-Guns" pinheads, etc. Would you?? :shock:

Blacksmith
12-04-2011, 12:42 AM
No I don't want to stand anywhere near them but these shows will stimulate interest in guns. Hopfully interest will translate to people becoming responsible gun owners and places like this will teach them the finer points. We will then be stronger and more guns and gun owners is a good thing.

Blacksmith

contender1
12-04-2011, 11:02 AM
I don't watch BS shows like that. I do believe in us having positive attitude shows about firearms. It's too bad some of these TV producers are not gun people first BEFORE trying to script a show.
However, if us true gun folks keep telling the mall ninjas who drool over these shows how incorrect stuff is, the shows will eventually fail in the ratings. Then they go away. Positive gun shows will survive. And as noted, having gun shows on TV is a GOOD thing.

lylejb
12-04-2011, 05:21 PM
They converted a 7mm Magnum to a .458 Lott. This is a $5000 conversion

At that rate, I think I'm in the wrong business!!!

Somehow, I think I could come up with a barrel and a reamer for a might bit less..........

Harter66
12-04-2011, 09:31 PM
About that pre-64' 7mag to 458 Lott ,if you have it on your DVR watch it again . They built it on a 1999 Montana arms action my money says they put a Lott in a short chamber or a wrinkled case to start w/. I also agree the guy wants way to much for everything they do. He did an SSA clone competition gun and "gave"it away at a paltry 7500 bucks normaly they go for 15k.

Sons of guns is drama too,but they do cool toys. They do badly w/new shooter/buyers.

Sadly accurate build shooting shows wouldn't sell to the mall nijas and we need them too.

Buckshot
12-05-2011, 02:51 AM
.............Similar to the firearms prop guys on "Hell on Wheels". I watched a couple episodes and am not impressed with the thing. One night an hour before bed I was looking through the Verizon 'videos on demand' and there was something like 'The guns of Hell on wheels' or something similar. I clicked on it and if these people were specialists on firearms props, or more specificly the firearms they were using, things are in dire straits indeed.

...............Buckshot

eldorado888
01-15-2012, 04:36 PM
All of these shows are pure b.s.. As my brother pointed out "Wild Kingdom" used to have a disclaimer of "all events whether actual or recreated depict fact". Like throwing a leopard in an enclosure with a leopard was one of the more infamous incidents.

I'll name the shows for those of you who don't know which to avoid: American Pickers, Picker Sisters, Auction Hunters, Storage Wars, Pawn Stars, Amercan Guns, Ready Aim Sold.

The "experts" are usually some jerks they find in the area that are the local bar room experts. The no known maker saddle American Pickers picked up and was supposedly worth $2000, being raised by a dealer in saddles and having sold a few of my own, and going by the current market, it was worth about $250.

The gunstuff is equally idiotic. American Guns miraculously converted a blued pre-64 model 70 Winchester into a stainless Montana Arms. The guy could have bought a custom for what they charged for "converting the supposed Winchester.

Another point watching Rock Islands show the fake Winchester 73 1 of 1000 supposedly ended up in a guys collection for 50 or 60 years they used a book on Winchesters to confirm the validity of the fake gun. All guns in those books credit which collection they came from. If the gun was in the guys collection and wasn't credited in the book. Then how did a picture of the same gun get in the book? One of them is a fake! And RIA committed fraud!

I'm waiting for a show on the new Merwin Hulbert Gun Company. They've taken thousands of dollars from people and never produced anything, FRAUD. So they should fit right in.

Some people might say it's just entertainment but when it's, The History Channel, The Discovery Channel or the National Geographic Channel people ASSUME it's true. I've caught errors so many times I can't count.

I just said the heck with it and stopped watching cable. I mean it's like watching a tv version of the Star or National Enquirer.