New Winchester 1895 vrs Ruger #1 Intl

[GMW]

I know that I am hopelessly breaking another promise to my wife about no new guns for a year, but I am a very addicted gun lover. My next dream rifle will be either a Winchester, Mirikou, 1895 grade 1 in 30-40 Krag, or a Ruger #1 International in 7x57mm. I cast for 30-40, but I don't mind setting up for another caliber. I already own two single shots rifles, a origional Trap Door and a Shilo Sharps, not counting my flintlocks. I have five lever actions, but I would like one that could shoot pointed bullets. A BLR seems too modern for me. Please help me decide, all opinions are welcome.
P.S this rifle will be used for out back plinking and deer hunting.

[para45lda]

I've always been attracted to the Savage 99 for pointy bullets in a "classic" design. My .02

Wes

[elk hunter]

If you want a cast bullet rifle go with the Mdl 95 30-40. It would be hard to find a better caliber for a medium bore cast bullet shooter. The Mdl 95 is just a great gun, I've owned two of them over the years. Unfortunately neither was in 30-40.

I too like #1's and the 7x57 is a great caliber, but not one I would buy just for cast bullets.

[Bret4207]

A 95 is a heavy hunk of artillery. I don't know if that's an issue for you. Both cartridges are wonderful, but the 30-40 has a much larger selection of bullets and moulds. 7x57 brass is easier to come by.

I don;t know the costs anymore, but you have a tough choice.

[Shooter]

My 7X57 RSI is a favorite. Shoots cast well.

[Potsy]

I have a #1A 7x57.
Be aware that #1's and 7x57's are both addictive. Taken together you'll be past all hope of re-hab in terms of your gun buying.
What's worse is; you'll find with a light, short, feathery RSI that points like a quail gun and kills as sure as AIDS (just quicker), other guns will get left at home more while you're out hunting.
All kidding aside, the '95 probably would be the better cast gun, but if you're looking for a deer rifle, a #1 7x57 set up right is mighty easy to love.

[NickSS]

I have owned the 7X57 no 1 ad liked it but it did not like cast though it was reasonably accurate with jacketed bullets but nothing outstanding. I also own a 95 Win in 30-06 (wanted a 30-40 but could not find one) and like it a lot. I shot it originally with jacketed just to get a feel for it but for the last year its been one of my cast only guns for two reasons. One is that it shoots cast so well that it is a joy to use and the other is that with full house Jacketed loads the finger lever gives me a sore middle finger due to recoil and the shape of the lever. With cast I have no problems like that. I did put on a Old style receiver sight made by Providence tool co that looks like the old Lyman 20. It fits the old style of the rifle perfectly and actually adds to its looks as well as gives me the benefit of a receiver sight. All in all I can recommend the Winchester 95 very much.

[williamwaco]

My next dream rifle will be either a Winchester, Mirikou, 1895 grade 1 in 30-40 Krag, .



I have one of these in .38-55. I bought it specifically for cast bullets. I really like it. BUT there are a LOT more .30 cal bullet designs than .375.


You will love either one. ( If you can afford the divorce. )



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[August]

Ruger made the #3 in 30-40 Krag. Every once in a while, one pops up on gunbroker. Cheaper, lighter, faster than a high wall.

Of course, John Browning's first rifle design happens to be the most beautiful rifle ever made by anybody -- before or since.

I have two high walls and a couple of #3 Rooooooger. They're all great rifles. I treat the high walls with kid gloves, but throw the No. 3s around like they are old friends -- which they are.

[Four Fingers of Death]

I have a Browning BPCR which is an incredible rifle and I also have Ruger No1s (in 338WM and 416Rigby.

The Ruger would be a better choice for a hunting rifle as they are generally lighter and handier (although there were a number of lighweight 1895s in 243, etc).

The Ruger No1 in 303British is currently available and would be a great cast boolit rifle as welll as being a handy hunting rifle which looks a treat as well!

[stubshaft]

I have both (although my 1895 is an original) and can honestly say that the Ruger gets two to three times the use.

[Four Fingers of Death]

[QUOTE=stubshaft;1488356]I have both (although my 1895 is an original) and can honestly say that the Ruger gets two to three times the use.[/QUOTE

Thats sort of what I meant, both great rifles, but the Rugers are generally more 'go to!'

[StrawHat]

If you like a lever rifle, the 1895 is the way to go. I have an original and it sees about as much use as my Trapdoors. Of course when I want a small bore, it sees a lot of use. Never having owned or even handled the Ruger, I can not comment.

Since you are interested in the 1895 have you considered the 405 WCF?

[lbaize3]

I have the 1895 in 30-06 and a Ruger #1 in 45-70. I like both a bunch, but the #1 gets the nod because of its' weight and ergonomics.

[Dan Cash]

I have an original 95 that spent its life in a saddle scabbard so the gun is nearly in the white. It handles the dirty environment of the Bad Lands and sure does not weigh over much. Heavy = BLR. This 95 is very successful with 200 gr. Jacketed and 220 cast. Accuracy for the 2 bullets is about equal at 2 inches at 100 yards with original buckhorn sight.

[GMW]

I purchased the 1895 in 30-40 and I love it! It is the grade one model and the fit and finish are beautiful. I have a 311299 mold and I am working up some loads. I could use a little help in the load department. Thanks for all the suggestions.