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amosp1
10-31-2011, 01:27 AM
I am confused about formulas. I have about 130 lbs of wheel weights that i melted down and fluxed the right way. I also have 100 lbs. of linotype. I am going to make 45/70 bullets and need a good mix for them in 10 lb. batches.
I am using a lee 20 lb pot. I also have plenty of tin. The ww are new clip on. I will heat 20lb the first casting and add 10lb as needed.
I will be using a 300gr flat nose mould with a gas check and shoot a new england 45/70. I also have an unlimited access to wheel weights.
This gun shoots remington 300gr hps in less than 1" at 2250fps at 100Yards. I just want to make my own bullets. I have about 1500 jacked bullets.
Thank You for any info. I

ss40_70
10-31-2011, 02:19 AM
welcome amos , where abouts you at , im near lisbon myself always nice to find someone close by , and how to mix your lead depends on what you want to do , i realy doubt youll have to shoot a cast bullet at 2200 fps to get good acuracy i'd start with just the ww to get started and doubt youll realy need anything harder with the gas checks , if you have any problems with mold fill out maybe add a pinch of tin and save that pricy lino

knifemaker
10-31-2011, 03:12 AM
I shoot both a 350 gr. and 300 gr. cast boolit with GC in my 45/70 and my accuracy load is just over 1800 fps with 43 gr. of IMR-4198 powder. I use straight wheel weights and size to .460. No evidence of any leading. I second the motion of saving the linotype since you have a good supply of WW. The lino can be mixed with pure lead at a 50/50 ratio for a bullet that will be slightly harder then your straight ww.

ku4hx
10-31-2011, 06:11 AM
Go here and get the alloy calculator:

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/downloads.shtml

You can save the file to your computer and with it you can determine how much of what metal or alloy you need to combine to get what you want.

Wayne Smith
10-31-2011, 07:56 AM
After all that is said, realize you don't need anything harder than 50/50 ww/pb for the 45-70. Remember that the original Remington formula was 20/1 lead/tin and the Sharps formula was 16/1. These were hard enough to kill the buffalo.

1Shirt
10-31-2011, 09:06 AM
You will probably have good luck with blts for 45-70 weighing from 350-400 +/- a bit over anywhere from 20-26 gr. of 2400. Be careful as you can double charge with this powder. Good luck!
1Shirt!:coffee:

amosp1
10-31-2011, 11:08 AM
I live in Bolivar. I wasn't planing to shoot cast at 2200fps. I just mentioned that because that is what I am now doing. I have ben reloading for about 40 years and used to be a police sniper. Now I am trying cast bullets. I have enough jacketed bullets to last me the rest of my days.
Just trying something new. If they turn out good, I may sell them also. I have sizeing dies for .457 and .458. Mostly I deer hunt and like to put large holes in targets.
Thank You

cbrick
10-31-2011, 11:42 AM
Welcome to CastBoolits amosp1,

As was already suggested, save the lino for blending for something that may need a bit harder bullet, the 45-70 really doesn't. A properly fitted bullet of air cooledd clip-on WW should do nicely. Don't fall for the "hardcast" hype, it's usually not needed and can be detrimental.

Next I highly recommend slugging the bore and then size to a minimum of .001" over measured groove diameter. If your 45-70 is a Marlin Micro Groove then a minimum of .002" over groove diameter. Yep, you'll probably need a larger sizing die.

Your not only trying something new, you have just embarked on a new adddiction. Welcome to the madness. [smilie=1:

Rick

williamwaco
10-31-2011, 09:23 PM
You don't NEED to add any Linotype to your WW for the .45-70. Straight wheel weights are much harder than the original .45-70 bullets.

That said, adding a little Linotype or tin will make the bullets pretty. If you are using a 20 pound pot ( it really only holds 16 pounds if you leave an inch or so empty space at the top so you can stir without splashing it out) you don't need more than three or four ounces of tin.

deltaenterprizes
10-31-2011, 09:28 PM
You need a Type 06 FFL to sell bullets.

Wayne Smith
11-01-2011, 08:07 AM
You need a Type 06 FFL to sell bullets.

And a business license, but if you are a retired officer you already know that!

amosp1
11-01-2011, 11:16 PM
I have been retired from the department for about 20 years because of disability. I did not know about the license requirement. But I am not really interested in selling anyway. Just putting in time till I can't get around anymore. I did cast some 300gr flat point. I have to replace my sizeing press because of problems. The bullets I made came out to 317gr plus or minus 1 grain. Thanks to everyone for the info.
I am only on the puter every couple of days. I will be watching for new posts.