Hodgdon Powder Recall

[KYCaster]

If you have H4227 or LilGun, check this out hodgdon.com/news/lilgunrecall.php

Jerry

[RugerFan]

Thats scary! H4198 labled as H4227. I wonder how many unlucky reloaders found that out the hard way. I'm glad I use mostly IMR smokless powders.

[Scrounger]

Thats scary! H4198 labled as H4227. I wonder how many unlucky reloaders found that out the hard way. I'm glad I use mostly IMR smokless powders.

I doubt if anyone used it. The powders don't look anything alike. H4198 is extruded, H4227 is extremely small balls, looks like 2400. You should know something is wrong as soon as you open the can.

[imashooter2]

Thats scary! H4198 labled as H4227. I wonder how many unlucky reloaders found that out the hard way. I'm glad I use mostly IMR smokless powders.

IMR... You mean that company Hodgdon bought last year?

[swheeler]

Nothing new here, Ramshot HUNTER recall, Accurate 3100 recall, Lil Gun Recall, the list goes on and on ,year after year! Mil-surp looking better all the time!

[Ron]

Hello from a cold, wet and windy Melbourne Oz. Just thought I would take this opportunity to enlarge your knowledge of the American shooting industry. Hodgson's buy most of their powders from ADI (Australian Defence Industries), a private/government compay in New South Wales, Australia. If you would like to know more, have a look at their Company Newsletter at http://www.adi-limited.com/pdfs/page7_64.pdf There is heaps of info about ADI and if you hunt about a bit there is an online loading manual which can be dowloaded. - Ron

[JohnH]

I doubt if anyone used it. The powders don't look anything alike. H4198 is extruded, H4227 is extremely small balls, looks like 2400. You should know something is wrong as soon as you open the can.

Sorry Scrounger, but what if one has never seen H4227? I used one pound of IMR4772 nearly thirty years ago now, I'd have now idea how H4227 should even look, never used the stuff. I only opened my first can of 4198 this year, and it had been given to me. I always used Reloder 7 for applications where 4198 is applicable. A visual inspection is worthless if you don't know what you are looking for or at.

The question is what kind of quality control program is being used that allows such a screw up to occur in the first place, and it seems to be something ongoing with Hodgdon over the last couple of years, so that a problem is caught (I wonder if they caught it or a reloader did????) and a recall is made is not in anyway reassuring.

[felix]

No, problem, folks! Keep in mind the old adage, safety first. Check out each lot of powder as if it was an unknown, and up front too. 4227s have been traditionally small, real small, single base sticks, much like the 322s. Just re-label the powder to its proven speed and use. Send it back? Not if you have a need for the powder's speed.

Keeping cheap employees motivated is the mainstream USA challenge anymore. No wonder, the good jobs are going overseas as soon as financial deals can be made, and we as USA citizens are being neutralized into the new world order. You don't need proof. Just buy clothes, shoes, computers, cars, or anything "consumer".

felix

[4060MAY]

JohnH
The new Reloader 7 is not the same as the reloader 7 with the brown markers.
Actually looks like 4198, I emailed the new company that took over Alliant and the reply was a new manufacturer was making it to their specs and the burning rate was the same. so far this is correct in my loads.

Anyone using Ramshot products? Picked up 5 pounds of different burning rates for dree as a demo.

chuck

[C A Plater]

A friend of mine and I split a 16# order. He got TAC and X-Terminator and I got Big Game and Magnum. They were running a promotion at the time and got it for $12.50 a pound delivered. He burned his up on a praried dog shoot and was pleased with the performance. I use mine for 7mm Rem. Mag. and Big Game in my .250 Savage. Big Game is a ringer for RL-15 and does well in my Savage. No complaints with the Magnum powder either. Judging by my chronograph reading, it does not appear to be temperature sensitive. Cold weather shots do not differ significantly from hot weather readings. Being an all ball powder maker, it meters very nicely and would be a good choice for a progressive press.

[Singletree]

4198 being a slower burning powder than 4227, if used with 4227 data, correct for the can label, the only calamity would be reduced velocity.