WEBLEY 455-265-HB mould, 4 cavity brass Cramer style, Group Buy (GB) open

[Onty]

This thread is closed. For any future posting, please go to Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=166597.

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This GB is closed. Thank you very much for your participation and patience.

If somebody is late, and still wants this mould, please contact Miha http://www.mp-molds.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_smartformer&Itemid=85&lang=en ASAP. Miha will contact you directly once moulds are manufactured. He will send you invoice by e-mail with instructions regarding payment. He will need your shipping address in order to send you mould directly.

Please, check the list once more and let me know ASAP if something has to be corrected.

455 Webley hollow base (HB) MK.II (http://members.memlane.com/gromboug/wbstryb.jpg) in 4 cavity brass Cramer mould. Weight is 265 grains using pure lead, about 257 grains using WW (starting thread http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=126512 ).

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g337/Onty50/WBB.jpg

Price is $120 plus $20 shipping (extra base pins for solid base are $16 for set of 4).

Mould will be available in two diameters; .455 and .457. Please specify diameter you want.

FYI, Midway is selling RCBS, single cavity, with cumbersome bottom plug, for $116.99, see http://www.midwayusa.com/product/195619/rcbs-1-cavity-bullet-mold-45-265-rn-hb-455-webley-455-diameter-265-grain-round-nose-hollow-base .

Webley 455-265-HB mould, 4 cavity brass Cramer style, list of potential customers:

1. klcarroll: kentcarroll at ameritech dot net .457 dia.
2. klcarroll: kentcarroll at ameritech dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
3. Dead Dog Jack: cswaffie at gmail dot com .455 dia.
4. Onty: ibcdiesel at netscape dot net, .455 dia.
5. dromia: adam at pukkabundhooks dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
6. bonza: arquebus1523 at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
7. Grantb: grantrombough at shaw dot ca (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
8. Colonel Flashman: col_flashman at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
9. fred2892: empirestar at fredplatt dot fsnet dot co dot uk .455 dia.
10. PB234: jeff5tg at yahoo dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
11. broomhandle: F223 at aol dot com .457 dia.
12. herbert buckland: herbertbuckland at aussiebroadband dot com dot au .457 dia.
13. jethunter: j3526134 at telus dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
14. jethunter: j3526134 at telus dot net .457 dia.
15. bydand: smle303john at comcast dot net .455 dia.
16. Missing Something: channelsurfer911@hotmail dot com .455 dia.
17. Missing Something: channelsurfer911@hotmail dot com .457 dia.
18. quasi: ckulyk at shaw dot ca .457 dia.
19. Aaron: 5090shiloh at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
20. The Virginian: johnas45 at gmail dot com .455 dia.
21. happy7: info at mattsbullets dot com .455 dia.
22. m.chalmers: bull_dag (at) yahoo (dot) com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
23. Lymaco: adlyons at aol dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
24. Plan_IX: plan_ix at teamwebb dot net .455 dia.
25. Springfield: whytelw at comcast dot net .455 dia.
26. sandermar: paangaboat at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
27. zywina: dzywina at yahoo dot ca (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
28. vulture47: sdennis at ubtanet dot com .455 dia.
29. tenexx: tenexx at gmail dot com .455 dia.
30. yardie: o2thief at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
31. Danceswithempties: Danceswithempties at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
32. Danceswithempties: Danceswithempties at hotmail dot com .457 dia.
33. Doctorbowie: doctorbowie at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
34. Bulletproof: Brett_hw at hotmail dot com .455 dia.
35. reader: reader452 at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
36. HARRYMPOPE: damron.george at gmail dot com .455 dia.
37. HARRYMPOPE: damron.george at gmail dot com .455 dia.
38. rxp46: janhagemans at hetnet dot nl (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
39. ian27: ianstrawbridge at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
40. dodgyrog: rogerjeffries04 at aol dot co dot uk (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
41. fossilnz: stuandmichelle at xnet dot co dot nz .455 dia.
42. dakotmar: dude9550 at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
43. Rotaxxx: Rotax599 at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
44. rklute: robert (at) klute (dot) us .455 dia.
45. Tom Herman: n1bec at msn dot com .457 dia.
46. mech481: davidjbaird at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
47. Ulysses6: qxqrzq at comcast dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
48. Longlead: tthills at earthlink dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
49. Longlead: tthills at earthlink dot net (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
50. Cowboyjohn: cowboy john three at hot mail dot com .455 dia.
51. Landman: hokey at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
51. Par50: jthomas at devilees dot com dot au .455 dia
51. tidal: brougham at westnet dot com dot au .455 dia
52. tidal: brougham at westnet dot com dot au .455 dia
53. djjp: djjp at comcast dot net .457 dia
54. scarry scarney: Somewhereinca at comcast dot net .455 dia
55. btreanor: btreanor at hotmail dot com .455 dia
56. Wierzbowski: jeffrey underscore kelso at hotmail dot com .455 dia
57. Spanners: porrittm at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia
58. hoopkb: kim dot b dot hooper at us dot army dot mil (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia
59. Taipan: rossfilshie at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
60. Hardball26: aardvark thirteen at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
61. shoe303: ronshoes at hotmail dot com .455 dia.
62. rockrat: pavp at montrose dot net .455 dia.
63. Bodydoc447: BodyDoc447 at aol dot com .455 dia.
64. hhagan: hhagan1 at cox dot net .455 dia.
65. Shooternz: robertwalker1atvodafonedotcodotnz .455 dia.
66. Stripes003: goldendragon003 at gmail dot com .455 dia.
67. rockrat: pavp at montrose dot net .455 dia.
68. GrantRCanada: grantrombough at shaw dot ca (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
69. Lvoight: Lvoight at optonline dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
70. MikeS: agrijag42 at mac dot com .455 dia.
71. peterb1205: peter at tdmdesign dot ca .455 dia.
72. buck1: C_atfish at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
73. RaiderHawk: bitbucket4 at gmail dot com .455 dia. (On hold, waiting for conformation)
74. Spedini: peterakeborn at gmail dot com .455 dia.
75: Gunsmoke4570: gunsmoke4570 at aol dot com .455 dia.
76. Hone_Heke: sammanderson at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
77. ddixie884: dgilbert07 at windstream dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
78. trav70: travers.sean at gmail.com .455 dia.
79. Wreck Checker: jensen.james at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
80. Bandit:
81. wireless wpn: ve3yc at bell dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
82. Cottage Hill Bill: reesewilliams at att dot net .455 dia.
83. Jalapeno Jake: jake20251 at aol dot com .455 dia.
84. twiggs1: twiggs1 toyon.wiggs at gmail (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
85. dominicfortune00: dominicfortune00 at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
86. jethunter: j3526134 at telus dot net .457 dia.
87. Max2005: geoffsmiller at comcast dot net .455 dia.
88. 10X: 10x at telus dot net .455 dia.
89. junkdude: junkdude at efirehose dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
90. Omaproducts: Omaproducts at shaw dot ca .455 dia.

[dromia]

Dromia 1 x four cavity.

adam at pukkabundhooks dot com

[PB234]

PB234

4 cavity mold please and thanks

jeff5tg at yahoo dot com

[Dead Dog Jack]

Excellent! Thanks for getting this off the ground Onty. I'm in for a 4 cavity. .455 dia.

[Aaron]

Add all pins to me please

Aaron

[dromia]

Could you add a set of PB pins for me as well please.

[PB234]

yes, please add a set of plain base pins to my order

[Grantb]

Please include me for the 4 cavity mould order, plus include a set of plain base pins.

.455 diameter for me please.

Thank you!

[happy7]

.455 dia

[jethunter]

(qty-1) .455"
(qty-1) .457"

j3526134 at telus dot net

[PB234]

455 for me

[dromia]

.455" diameter mould for me please.

[fred2892]

457 for me please.

empirestar at fredplatt dot fsnet dot co dot uk

[Missing Something]

I am a sad sack and glutton for punishment... I will take 1 of each.... .455 & .457 dia.

Let me know when you need payment and how you do it...

channelsurfer911@hotmail dot com

Thanks,
Craig

[m.chalmers]

.455 and extra base pins for solid base

bull_dag (at) yahoo (dot) c0m

TY

[Lymaco]

Sign me up for a .455 with the extra base pins,

Thanks,

Andy

"adlyons at aol dot com"

[fred2892]

Please change my order from .457 to .455.

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I have just dug these out from the dark depths of my shed and measured them, they are both .451. The one on the left came from an RCBS mould, on the right is a LEM mould. Sadly both these moulds belonged to an old freind whose wife decided that the best place for them after his death was in the local landfill site.

[Onty]

Please change my order from .457 to .455.

I have just dug these out from the dark depths of my shed and measured them, they are both .451. The one on the left came from an RCBS mould, on the right is a LEM mould. Sadly both these moulds belonged to an old freind whose wife decided that the best place for them after his death was in the local landfill site.

Another wife took all those little things every reloaded has and GAVE them to his shooting bodies. These examples are the best tell-tale signs how much they really loved their husbands.

[Plan_IX]

Ok I just registered for the forum ( so hello Everyone ) now is this group buy still active, if yes how can I get in on this.

[dromia]

Ok I just registered for the forum ( so hello Everyone ) now is this group buy still active, if yes how can I get in on this.

See post number 1 in this thread.

[dromia]

Welcome to Cast Boolits BTW. :D

[Onty]

Ok I just registered for the forum ( so hello Everyone ) now is this group buy still active, if yes how can I get in on this.

Welcome!

You just joined us. Now, I need your e-mail address (camouflaged), desired boolit dia (.455 or .457), and if you want blank pins for solid base, please list them.

Regards, Onty

[Dead Dog Jack]

Bump.

[Springfield]

Well, I've got two uncut Webleys, a MK 6 and a Mk 4, and an old Colt in .455 Eley, so I guess I better get in on this or I might regret it. A four cavity HB in .457 for me, please. whytelw AT comcast.net

[bonza]

4-cavity/.455 diameter/no extra base pins
arquebus1523 at yahoo dot com

[sandermar]

Just got wind of this group buy on the British Militaria Forum site. This site is just what I have been looking for since I am just going to be starting to cast my own boolits for some of the guns in my collection.

I would love to get a set of molds to cast for my Mark VI, in .455, with set of pins please.

paangaboat at yahoo dot ca

Thanks,

M.

[mech481]

will overseas orders be able to pay with paypal

[Onty]

will overseas orders be able to pay with paypal

Considering that Miha is located in Slovenia, I would think that PAYPAL should work from anywhere as long as you have major credit card.

[Dead Dog Jack]

Onty, did you mention this GB on the CanadianGunNutz forums? I didn't see it in the first 6 pages. If it's deeper in, I'll give it a bump.

[Onty]

Onty, did you mention this GB on the CanadianGunNutz forums? I didn't see it in the first 6 pages. If it's deeper in, I'll give it a bump.

No I did not, but that is not bad idea. BTW, you put it here http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/12671/Interest-in-455-Webley-bullet-mould ?

[Dead Dog Jack]

No I did not, but that is not bad idea. BTW, you put it here http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/12671/Interest-in-455-Webley-bullet-mould ?

Yep, that was me. I also put it on the British Gun Pub section on gunboards.com and the Canadian section on CasCity.com. :grin:

[Onty]

Onty, did you mention this GB on the CanadianGunNutz forums? I didn't see it in the first 6 pages. If it's deeper in, I'll give it a bump.

I just did it. As a matter I was thinking to do what you did on those forums, they are by far two best about British arms. Webley shooters in Canada usually go on one of those.

One smaller problem on CanadianGunNutz is they do not allow hot linking for non-supporting parties. But, would not hurt to do so, hope I did not brake any rule. Some forums insist to send them text for review. Will try to post on some other forums this weekend.

[vulture47]

Please put me down for one of the 455 HB molds, thanks Stewart. sdennis at ubtanet dot com

[tenexx]

Onty, I just saw the message on Canadian Gun Nutz, please put me down for a .455 diameter mold.

tenexx at gmail dot com

Thank you for your efforts.

[yardie]

Hello to all!!

Thanks for bringing attention to this over at CGN Onty!!

May I please order:

- 4 cavity (.455 diameter) mold
- Plain base pins.

o2thief at hotmail dot c0m

[Danceswithempties]

Good Day All,
Heard about this over at CGN.
You can put me down for one 4 mold in .457 & one .455 diameter and an extra set of pins.
Thanks for arranging this buy.
Danceswithempties at hotmail dot com

[happy7]

info at mattsbullets dot com

[Onty]

I need boolit/mould dia (.455 or .457) and/or e-mail address from following members. Also, let me know if you want solid base pins.


8. Colonel Flashman: e-mail and dia

11. broomhandle: dia
12. herbert buckland: e-mail and dia

15. bydand: dia

29. vulture47: dia

Other members; please check the list for accuracy.

Please, from now on, post any additional info or correction here on the thread, even if I contact you by PM. It's much easier for me to control what I had done (or missed) than check this thread, PM and the PM from another forum. And hey, you will keep thread bumping up to the top :mrgreen: .

[PB234]

Question, if one is shooting a 455 Webley and the hollow base should expand to fill the bore why does one want a 457? Just a new caster asking to be informed. thanks

[Doctorbowie]

I would like to put in for a .455 diameter mould.

doctorbowie at yahoo dot ca

Thank you

[Onty]

Question, if one is shooting a 455 Webley and the hollow base should expand to fill the bore why does one want a 457? Just a new caster asking to be informed. thanks
I like to size boolits, despite HB, to make them to fit cylinder and for uniformity in dia. hoping for better accuracy.

[Dead Dog Jack]

Question, if one is shooting a 455 Webley and the hollow base should expand to fill the bore why does one want a 457? Just a new caster asking to be informed. thanks

For me, I am going to run them through a lubrasizer in order to lube them. If I'm casting .457 bullets, I can be assured of them being .455 since I put them through a .455 sizer die.


It would be interesting to see what everyone is shooting these bullets with. I would imagine mostly Webley Mk VI models. I don't even own a Webley! (Sad, I know) Maybe after delivery this kind of topic can run in the results section.

[oddione]

Will the resulting bullets be compatible with the .455 Webley Mark 6 ? If yes, which do I need .455 or .457?

[Onty]

Will the resulting bullets be compatible with the .455 Webley Mark 6 ? If yes, which do I need .455 or .457?

As far as I know, this Mk. II boolit was used in ammo for later Webley models, Mk. VI in particular. Useful link http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/7857/British-Service-Revolver-cartridge-specs-and-diagrams .

As for dia, if you are not using lubrisizer, I would suggest to go with .455. I opted for .457 so I can size them and make uniform in dia. Although, not big issue in Webley because of the hollow base, but I like to size boolits to fit cylinder.

[fred2892]

Try measuring your cylinder and then opt for a mould a couple of thou over cylinder size to allow for sizing and lubing. You might be surprised at how small webley cylinders are. Dont forget, the hollow base is there to allow the boolit to expand into the rifling and fit the grooves. It will severely affect accuracy if you go too large as the cylinder will size them down (leaving lead residue in the cylinder) and then when they hit the rifling they will bump up. Better for the lead to fit the cylinder.

deaddog jack.....mine will be used in an old French muzzleloader and be used as a minie bullet. Unfortunately my government stole my webley IV.

[sandermar]

Onty, can you drop the blank pins from my order? Been thinking about it and don't think I will be needing them.

Thnx.

M.

[Bulletproof]

.455 for me please.

Brett_hw at hotmail dot com

thanks

Brett

[jethunter]

Question, if one is shooting a 455 Webley and the hollow base should expand to fill the bore why does one want a 457? Just a new caster asking to be informed. thanks

I'm getting a .457 dia mold for a .476 enfield chambered webley revolver.

[jethunter]

duplicate

[reader]

.457 dia. plus set of blank pins, please. :-D

reader452 at gmail dot com

[Onty]

Sorry for late update, my internet connection was down since last Friday.


duplicate

So, if I have it right, you want;

2 X .455

2 x .457

Jethunter, please confirm.

Cheers, Onty.

[Onty]

Try measuring your cylinder and then opt for a mould a couple of thou over cylinder size to allow for sizing and lubing. You might be surprised at how small webley cylinders are. Dont forget, the hollow base is there to allow the boolit to expand into the rifling and fit the grooves. It will severely affect accuracy if you go too large as the cylinder will size them down (leaving lead residue in the cylinder) and then when they hit the rifling they will bump up. Better for the lead to fit the cylinder.

deaddog jack.....mine will be used in an old French muzzleloader and be used as a minie bullet. Unfortunately my government stole my webley IV.

In addition, too large boolits will raise the pressure considerably, something you must avoid in any firearm, especially in Webley. They are sturdy firearms, but cannot compare with solid frame revolvers.

Also, see here what happens when Webley is abused shooting 45 ACP ammo, that is actually more than a proof load for this firearm:

3. The pressure of .45 ACP milspec and standard factory loads exceeds the proof load for the Mark VI Webley revolver. (http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/9296/CAUTION--455-REVOLVERS-ALTERED--SHOOT-45-ACP--45-Auto-Rim)

[HARRYMPOPE]

sign me up for one please

[Onty]

sign me up for one please

Also, I need your e-mail address, and which mould you want, .455 or .457 dia?

[HARRYMPOPE]

Also, I need your e-mail address, and which mould you want, .455 or .457 dia?

PM sent

.455 dia and i would want two molds @ .455.

damron dot george at g mail dot com

[Springfield]

With .457 I can run this as a lighter bullet in some of my 45-70's.

[rxp46]

put me on the list for a .457 and a set of blank pins

janhagemans at hetnet dot nl

gr jan.

[Onty]

put me on the list for a .457 and a set of blank pins

janhagemans at hetnet dot nl

gr jan.

Done!

[ian27]

Brilliant!!!! Could I have 1 x .455" diameter mould plus a set of pins please.

ianstrawbridge at hotmail dot com

[dromia]

How are you doing Ian?

[Onty]

I need boolit/mould dia (.455 or .457) and/or e-mail address from following members. Also, let me know if you want solid base pins.

8. Colonel Flashman: e-mail and dia


15. bydand: dia



Other members; check the list for accuracy.

Please, post any additional info or correction here on the thread, even if I contact you by PM. It's much easier for me to control what I had done (or missed) than check this thread, PM and the PM from another forum. And thread will be bumped up to the top :mrgreen: .

[dodgyrog]

May I order one please?
.457 hollow base with spare flat base pins
rogerjeffries04 at aol dot co dot uk
ATB
dodgyrog

[Onty]

Welcome, you are on the list.

[fossilnz]

Hi stuandmichelle at xnet dot co dot nz, please order me a four cavity mould in .455 rn hb. Thanks

[dakotamar]

4 cavity in .455

dude9550 at yahoo dot ca

thanks

[Rotaxxx]

I sent ya a pm on CGN I will take one of the moulds

Rotax599at hotmail dot com

[Onty]

Thanks to all, update done.

[fossilnz]

Thanks mate as said on the first page us Webley shooters have been waiting decades for something like this.... Awesome.

[Rotaxxx]

Can I also get a set of pins for the mould?

[Onty]

Can I also get a set of pins for the mould?

Done.

[rklute]

Hopefully this GB is still open, if it is I want one in .455

contact me at robert (at) klute (dot) us

[Onty]

Hopefully this GB is still open, if it is I want one in .455

contact me at robert (at) klute (dot) us

Welcome, GB still open.

[Foxfyre841]

I definitely want in as I just purchased a webley mkvi for my wife and am having a hard time finding ammo (been reloading 45LC so I can reload no problem).

Was there a standard diameter button used on the mk6 when broached? I can't find my cerro-safe to measure bore. If I need to I'll go get a soft ball and smack it in with wooden mallet but am worried that will mess up. Worst come s to worse, I could order 457 and fab a sizing plate from o-1 steel if it doesn't fit.

Thought i would ask you other webley shooters since you're all here now. PM me to keep this forum clear. I will edit this post to provide that information for other on-the-fencers.

[bonza]

What is the expected timeframe on these molds. No big hurry, just wondering.

[Onty]

What is the expected timeframe on these molds. No big hurry, just wondering.

Just sent message to Miha. My apology for late reply, I have big problem with internet lately.

[Tom Herman]

Put me down for one as well! .457" diameter. n1bec at msn dot com.
Many Thanks!

-Tom

[fred2892]

Onty, any idea where the picture of the bullet in your first post came from. I am just wondering about its accuracy in dimensions as I believe the .454 diameter on the picture is much too large.

I know the RCBS .455 mould casts at .452 as I have just picked up some more of these that have been sized down to .451.
Also on looking at the drawings for the service Webleys you can see the cylinder throats are .449

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Heres the rifling

37607

So you can see that even if you size down a cast boolit from .455 down a couple of thou to.453, then the cylinder throat will further swage down another 4 thou to .449 before it gets anywhere near the rifling. Not only will this smear the boolit (especially the lube grooves) but it will also raise pressures in these old guns.

What spurred me on to look into this was that I have just read an article in 'Target Gun' from august 1995 where the author had ordered a special order mould from RCBS to replicate the 455 webley naval bullet.

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In the article he states that the webley he is using has chamber throats of .4495 and that previously he had sized his boolits to .452. However, for this mould he had a .450 sizing die made up by Jim Goodwin as he was unhappy at the .452 boolits overworking the case mouths as they were oversize.
So if .452 boolits were oversize and overworking the case mouths, what on earth are .455 or .457 boolits going to do?

I have a cartridge collector who lives nearby amd I will try and get an original .455 and pull the bullet to get some dimensions if anyone thinks it worthwhile.

This is not written to wind anyone up or piss on anyones fire, merely to confirm what you think you want is actually what you need. Apologies if any offence caused.

Fred

[Onty]

Thank you for comment. Drawing is from here http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/7857/British-Service-Revolver-cartridge-specs-and-diagrams . As for RCBS size, I cannot comment it. However, regardless of dimensions of barrel and cylinder bores in literature, those dimensions on military MkVI could be quite bit different. Also, as far as I had seen, original (Canadian made) boolits were made from fairly soft lead, softer than wheel weight. So, I used original data to design boolit here, IMHO this is the safest way to go.

Regards, Onty

[fred2892]

Managed to scrounge an original and pulled the boolit on it.

37612

37613

37614

So boolit diameter was .4495. Powder charge was 3.9 grains of what looked like chopped cordite and the boolit had a hardness of 8.2bhn and weighed 266.7gns.

This is where my drawings and dimensions came from

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37618

food for thought

Fred

[Springfield]

Just for fun I just took my mk6 and mk4 out of the safe and measured the throat at the front of the cylinder. The mk6 was .450 and the mk4 was almost .451. I just used a caliper but they are obviously smaller than the .454-.455 I was assuming they were. Maybe I might not want a .457 mould.

[Onty]

Fred, would you have official specification for ammunition?

[Onty]

I received reply from Miha, this one will go some time after New Year. Hi doubled his work-time, but seems to me no mater how hard he is working, we are going to pile more on him.

[fred2892]

I haven't seen official spec for ammo. Nearest I have is the book 'The Webley Story' by Dowell where the drawing on your first post came from. Unfortunately, the book does not give reference to where the original drawing can be found, nor in the entire chapter on ammo does it give any specifics. Nothing found in Skennertons SAIS either.

Just to be clear, I want this mould for a muzzleloading rifle, not for a Webley. I just dont want folks to suffer the frustrations I went through years ago trying to get them to shoot straight.

I had both a service mkIV and mkVI. Naturally assuming .455 meant just that, I used a lyman mould that threw a boolit at .455 after sizing. Accuracy was terrible and it took twice as long to clean the smeared lead from the chambers as it did the rest of the gun. Other combinations of moulds/sizing gave similar results.

It wasnt until I bought some commercially cast lead boolits to the same design as original that things improved dramatically. They came pre lubed and sized and surprisingly to me at the time measured .451. No more smeared chambers, no more chunks of bullet around the cylinder/barrel gap and a tenfold increase in accuracy. 3 grains of bullseye gave pleasing groups as opposed to shotgun patterns with the larger boolit. A similar situation to .303s I suppose where virtually every publication tells you to use .311 whereas anyone who has actually loaded for accuracy knows you need a minimum of .314 upwards.

I carried on using these in a muzzleloader after the government took away our toys. The supply of these naturally dried up here in the UK which is why I need this mould. It doesnt matter to me that when I size them down to .451 that the grease grooves will be smeared as the whole boolit will be covered in beeswax.

Springfield has measured his chamber throats and came up with a maximum of just shy of .451. Has anyone else measured theirs?

Fred

[carlv]

Some .455 throat measurements from various revolvers :
S&W Triple Lock .458-.459
S&W 2nd Model .457-.458
Webley Mk VI .449-.451
Webley-Fosbery .448-.449
Colt New Service .455-.456

[Onty]

Some .455 throat measurements from various revolvers :
S&W Triple Lock .458-.459
S&W 2nd Model .457-.458
Webley Mk VI .449-.451
Webley-Fosbery .448-.449
Colt New Service .455-.456

Thank you so much for this.

Boy, this is getting really strange. Seems to me that we should have something like .452 for Webley and .458-.460 for S&W and Colt. I hope to get my two Mk VI soon so I can check their cylinders.

I would appreciate if you check your revolvers and post here dimensions of their chambers.

[Onty]

... I know the RCBS .455 mould casts at .452 as I have just picked up some more of these that have been sized down to .451.
Also on looking at the drawings for the service Webleys you can see the cylinder throats are .449

37606

Heres the rifling

37607

So you can see that even if you size down a cast boolit from .455 down a couple of thou to.453, then the cylinder throat will further swage down another 4 thou to .449 before it gets anywhere near the rifling. Not only will this smear the boolit (especially the lube grooves) but it will also raise pressures in these old guns.

What spurred me on to look into this was that I have just read an article in 'Target Gun' from august 1995 where the author had ordered a special order mould from RCBS to replicate the 455 webley naval bullet.

In the article he states that the webley he is using has chamber throats of .4495 and that previously he had sized his boolits to .452. However, for this mould he had a .450 sizing die made up by Jim Goodwin as he was unhappy at the .452 boolits overworking the case mouths as they were oversize.
So if .452 boolits were oversize and overworking the case mouths, what on earth are .455 or .457 boolits going to do?

I have a cartridge collector who lives nearby amd I will try and get an original .455 and pull the bullet to get some dimensions if anyone thinks it worthwhile.

This is not written to wind anyone up or piss on anyones fire, merely to confirm what you think you want is actually what you need. Apologies if any offence caused.

Fred


Managed to scrounge an original and pulled the boolit on it.


37613

37614

So boolit diameter was .4495. Powder charge was 3.9 grains of what looked like chopped cordite and the boolit had a hardness of 8.2bhn and weighed 266.7gns.

Fred


Thank you Fred again. So, looks like that standard rifling (bore) dia is .449-.453. If I remembered correctly, Webley Mk VI I sold some years ago, had rifling bore something like .448-.449. According to some sources, Webley engineers made cylinder chambers smaller than boolit dia in order to swage it and bump pressure a bit. Apparently, powder they used had somewhat slower burning rate than desired, so this method was used to overcome noted problem. Hollow base boolit compensates for any difference in dia between cylinder and barrel.

Considering powders we have today, such swaging might not be required any more. In that respect, I would say that old Keith's rule about boolit sizing just to make it go through cylinder by finger pressure makes sense even on Webley. And your finding that boolit dia on original load is .449-.450 might be further conformation to that whatever was the powder they used, drastic swaging from .455 wasn’t required any more. Now, taking into account that original boolit (8.2 BHN) is softer than WW (12 BHN after two weeks, see http://www.lasc.us/Kelter_Cast_Bullet_Alloys2.pdf ) we mostly use, any excessive swaging will raise pressure considerably.

[Dead Dog Jack]

Thank you so much for this.

Boy, this is getting really strange. Seems to me that we should have something like .452 for Webley and .458-.460 for S&W and Colt. I hope to get my two Mk VI soon so I can check their cylinders.

I would appreciate if you check your revolvers and post here dimensions of their chambers.

My Colt New Service also comes in at .455. But, if I ever get a Webley, I'd like this mould to serve for both. Hmmm. Rethinking my size choice.....

[Springfield]

MY Colt 1917 measures .456.

[bonza]

My Webley Mk.V arrived yesterday, so I just slugged a chamber mouth & it came in at .450". The previous owner included some commercially cast 270gn RNHB bullets & they mic out at .455" diameter.

[Dead Dog Jack]

Here is a drawing a friend from another board sent. Hopefully this will help.

http://home.comcast.net/~swaffield/455Mark2small.jpg

[Onty]

Here is a drawing a friend from another board sent. Hopefully this will help.

http://home.comcast.net/~swaffield/455Mark2small.jpg

Thank you Sir!

FYI, I posted http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/13062/master/1/?page=1 and http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?243865-Webley-455-target-shooters-we-need-your-advice asking other shooters about their experience regarding desirable dia for .455 Webley revolver. After reading those posts, I am going to have mine cut to .455. Miha makes excellent moulds, with correct dia. If I want experiment with smaller dia, I can size boolit down for Webley, and if I have a luck, use as cast and lubed in a VERY nice 1917 S&W, with target sights installed (must be done before WW II).

If you want to change yours, please let me know by posting here so I can update the list.

An older shooter told me that the trick is to have boolits rolled in lube before sizing, and to make sure that sizing die is highly polished. Also, if going more than few thousands, he recommends going in two steps. I have small bench press and will size them first .002-.003 in die (modified drill bushing) with very gradual slope, before going through lubrisizer on final dia.

Regards, Onty.

[bonza]

Shot my Mk.V with the .455" diameter bullets yesterday, & they did just fine. Keep my mold order at .455" please.

[mech481]

I'd like to jump in on this one please 4 cavity HB 455
e-mail davidjbaird at yahoo dot com or sambardjb at bigpond dot com dot au

[Ulysses6]

My 1922 Enfield Mk VI throats measure 0.448 - 0.449" using a plug gage.

Make mine a 0.455" with the extra pins.

qxqrzq at comcast dot net

[Onty]

My 1922 Enfield Mk VI throats measure 0.448 - 0.449" using a plug gage.

Make mine a 0.455" with the extra pins.

qxqrzq at comcast dot net

I updated the list, you are there.

Boy, I am jealous, still kicking myself for passing one nice Enfield Mk VI.

[Ulysses6]

I updated the list, you are there.

Boy, I am jealous, still kicking myself for passing one nice Enfield Mk VI.

Yes, I need to find someone with the parts and knowledge as the cylinder does not lockup tight and look forward to shooting it, using the new mould.

[Onty]

Yes, I need to find someone with the parts and knowledge as the cylinder does not lockup tight and look forward to shooting it, using the new mould.

Well, before doing anything, be aware that Webley/Enfield Mk. VI is bit different breed of animal than rest of DA revolvers. To test is revolver OK, cock the hammer in SA mode, hold it, pull the trigger and hold it all the way back and lower the hammer. Do not release trigger. Now, check if cylinder is locked tight. Do this for each chamber. If revolver cylinder is loose in any position, timing is out. (Of course, you can dry fire it, but I hate to do this on any revolver, especially on old Webley.)

Bit more here http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/7155/CYLINDER-PLAY-ON-YOUR-BRITISH-REVOLVER-CHECK-HERE .

If revolvers is in nice condition, I bet you will find that it's OK. I had seen just few big frame Webley revolvers out of timing, and those were in POOR condition, folks just aren't aware how Webley works. FYI, Python uses same cylinder locking system.

[Longlead]

1 each of both .455 and .457 with a set of base pins. Thanks.
tthills at earthlink dot net

[Onty]

1 each of both .455 and .457 with a set of base pins. Thanks.
tthills at earthlink dot net

Done, thanks for joining us.

[Ulysses6]

Well, before doing anything, be aware that Webley/Enfield Mk. VI is bit different breed of animal than rest of DA revolvers. To test is revolver OK, cock the hammer in SA mode, hold it, pull the trigger and hold it all the way back and lower the hammer. Do not release trigger. Now, check if cylinder is locked tight. Do this for each chamber. If revolver cylinder is loose in any position, timing is out. (Of course, you can dry fire it, but I hate to do this on any revolver, especially on old Webley.)

Bit more here http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/7155/CYLINDER-PLAY-ON-YOUR-BRITISH-REVOLVER-CHECK-HERE .

If revolvers is in nice condition, I bet you will find that it's OK. I had seen just few big frame Webley revolvers out of timing, and those were in POOR condition, folks just aren't aware how Webley works. FYI, Python uses same cylinder locking system.
Thanks Onty, I tried the procedure on my Enfield Mk VI and then on my Enfield No.2 Mk1. Both locked up tight. I had noticed a small amount of wear, on the Mk VIs trigger catch, but both pistols are in very fine condition, such that I did not understand all of the play in this area. Thanks again for your help.

[Cowboyjohn]

Would love to be on the Webley mold list generated. Make mine a .455

[Cowboyjohn]

[QUOTE=Onty;1400129]GB (Group Buy) is officially open for famous 455 Webley hollow base (HB) MK.II (http://members.memlane.com/gromboug/wbstryb.jpg) in 4 cavity brass Cramer mould. Weight is 265 grains using pure lead, about 257 grains using WW (starting thread http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=126512 ).

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g337/Onty50/WBB.jpg

Price is $120 plus $20 shipping (extra base pins for solid base are $16 for set of 4).

Mould will be available in two diameters; .455 and .457. Please specify diameter you want.

FYI, Midway is selling RCBS, single cavity, with cumbersome bottom plug, for $116.99, see http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=195619 .

Please post your e-mail address camouflaged like this ˝ibcdiesel at netscape dot net˝ to prevent spammers from grabbing it. Miha will use it to contact you directly once moulds are manufactured. He will send you invoice and link to pay through PAYPAL, and also ask you for your shipping address to send you mould directly.

I think that this is the most exiting news we Webley shooters could have. So, please spread word among Webley folks, many of us were waiting for decades for this moment.


Webley 455-265-HB mould, 4 cavity brass Cramer style, list of potential customers:

1. klcarroll: kentcarroll at ameritech dot net .457 dia.
2. klcarroll: kentcarroll at ameritech dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
3. Dead Dog Jack: cswaffie at gmail dot com .455 dia.
4. Onty: ibcdiesel at netscape dot net, .455 dia.
5. dromia: adam at pukkabundhooks dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
6. bonza: arquebus1523 at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
7. Grantb: (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
8. Colonel Flashman
9. fred2892: empirestar at fredplatt dot fsnet dot co dot uk .455 dia.
10. PB234: jeff5tg at yahoo dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
11. broomhandle: F223 at aol dot com .457 dia.
12. herbert buckland: herbertbuckland at aussiebroadband dot com dot au .457 dia.
13. jethunter: j3526134 at telus dot net .455 dia.
14. jethunter: j3526134 at telus dot net .457 dia.
15. bydand: smle303john at comcast dot net
16. Missing Something: channelsurfer911@hotmail dot com .455 dia.
17. Missing Something: channelsurfer911@hotmail dot com .457 dia.
18. quasi: ckulyk at shaw dot ca .457 dia.
19. Aaron: 5090shiloh at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
20. The Virginian: johnas45 at gmail dot com .455 dia.
21. happy7: info at mattsbullets dot com .455 dia.
22. m.chalmers: bull_dag (at) yahoo (dot) com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
23. Lymaco: adlyons at aol dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
24. Plan_IX: plan_ix at teamwebb dot net .457 dia.
25. Springfield: whytelw at comcast dot net .455 dia.
26. sandermar: paangaboat at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
27. zywina: dzywina at yahoo dot ca (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
28. vulture47: sdennis at ubtanet dot com .455 dia.
29. tenexx: tenexx at gmail dot com .455 dia.
30. yardie: o2thief at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
31. Danceswithempties: Danceswithempties at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
32. Danceswithempties: Danceswithempties at hotmail dot com .457 dia.
33. Doctorbowie: doctorbowie at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
34. Bulletproof: Brett_hw at hotmail dot com .455 dia.
35. reader: reader452 at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
36. HARRYMPOPE: damron.george at gmail dot com .455 dia.
37. HARRYMPOPE: damron.george at gmail dot com .455 dia.
38. rxp46: janhagemans at hetnet dot nl (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
39. ian27: ianstrawbridge at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
40. dodgyrog: rogerjeffries04 at aol dot co dot uk (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
41. fossilnz: stuandmichelle at xnet dot co dot nz .455 dia.
42. dakotmar: dude9550 at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
43. Rotaxxx: Rotax599 at hotmail dot com .455 dia.
44. rklute: robert (at) klute (dot) us .455 dia.
45. Tom Herman: n1bec at msn dot com .457 dia.
46. mech481: davidjbaird at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
47. Ulysses6: qxqrzq at comcast dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
48. Longlead: tthills at earthlink dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
49. Longlead: tthills at earthlink dot net (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
50. cowboyjohn: cowboy john at hot mail dot com (.455 dia)

[Landman]

GB (Group Buy) is officially open for famous 455 Webley hollow base (HB) MK.II (http://members.memlane.com/gromboug/wbstryb.jpg) in 4 cavity brass Cramer mould. Weight is 265 grains using pure lead, about 257 grains using WW (starting thread http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=126512 ).

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g337/Onty50/WBB.jpg

Price is $120 plus $20 shipping (extra base pins for solid base are $16 for set of 4).

Mould will be available in two diameters; .455 and .457. Please specify diameter you want.

FYI, Midway is selling RCBS, single cavity, with cumbersome bottom plug, for $116.99, see http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=195619 .

Please post your e-mail address camouflaged like this ˝ibcdiesel at netscape dot net˝ to prevent spammers from grabbing it. Miha will use it to contact you directly once moulds are manufactured. He will send you invoice and link to pay through PAYPAL, and also ask you for your shipping address to send you mould directly.

I think that this is the most exiting news we Webley shooters could have. So, please spread word among Webley folks, many of us were waiting for decades for this moment.


Webley 455-265-HB mould, 4 cavity brass Cramer style, list of potential customers:

1. klcarroll: kentcarroll at ameritech dot net .457 dia.
2. klcarroll: kentcarroll at ameritech dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
3. Dead Dog Jack: cswaffie at gmail dot com .455 dia.
4. Onty: ibcdiesel at netscape dot net, .455 dia.
5. dromia: adam at pukkabundhooks dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
6. bonza: arquebus1523 at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
7. Grantb: (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
8. Colonel Flashman
9. fred2892: empirestar at fredplatt dot fsnet dot co dot uk .455 dia.
10. PB234: jeff5tg at yahoo dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
11. broomhandle: F223 at aol dot com .457 dia.
12. herbert buckland: herbertbuckland at aussiebroadband dot com dot au .457 dia.
13. jethunter: j3526134 at telus dot net .455 dia.
14. jethunter: j3526134 at telus dot net .457 dia.
15. bydand: smle303john at comcast dot net
16. Missing Something: channelsurfer911@hotmail dot com .455 dia.
17. Missing Something: channelsurfer911@hotmail dot com .457 dia.
18. quasi: ckulyk at shaw dot ca .457 dia.
19. Aaron: 5090shiloh at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
20. The Virginian: johnas45 at gmail dot com .455 dia.
21. happy7: info at mattsbullets dot com .455 dia.
22. m.chalmers: bull_dag (at) yahoo (dot) com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
23. Lymaco: adlyons at aol dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
24. Plan_IX: plan_ix at teamwebb dot net .457 dia.
25. Springfield: whytelw at comcast dot net .455 dia.
26. sandermar: paangaboat at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
27. zywina: dzywina at yahoo dot ca (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
28. vulture47: sdennis at ubtanet dot com .455 dia.
29. tenexx: tenexx at gmail dot com .455 dia.
30. yardie: o2thief at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
31. Danceswithempties: Danceswithempties at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
32. Danceswithempties: Danceswithempties at hotmail dot com .457 dia.
33. Doctorbowie: doctorbowie at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
34. Bulletproof: Brett_hw at hotmail dot com .455 dia.
35. reader: reader452 at gmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
36. HARRYMPOPE: damron.george at gmail dot com .455 dia.
37. HARRYMPOPE: damron.george at gmail dot com .455 dia.
38. rxp46: janhagemans at hetnet dot nl (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
39. ian27: ianstrawbridge at hotmail dot com (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
40. dodgyrog: rogerjeffries04 at aol dot co dot uk (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
41. fossilnz: stuandmichelle at xnet dot co dot nz .455 dia.
42. dakotmar: dude9550 at yahoo dot ca .455 dia.
43. Rotaxxx: Rotax599 at hotmail dot com .455 dia.
44. rklute: robert (at) klute (dot) us .455 dia.
45. Tom Herman: n1bec at msn dot com .457 dia.
46. mech481: davidjbaird at yahoo dot com .455 dia.
47. Ulysses6: qxqrzq at comcast dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
48. Longlead: tthills at earthlink dot net (plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
49. Longlead: tthills at earthlink dot net (plus set of blank pins) .457 dia.
50. Cowboyjohn: cowboy john three at hot mail dot com .455 dia.
I will take 1 .455 4 cav. hollow base round nose mold. let me know all details hokey@yahoo.com

[par50]

Par50 : jthI'd like to jump in on this one please 4 cavity HB 455
jthomas at devilees dot com dot au .455 dia

[tidal]

2 x 4 Cavity .455 please

brougham at westnet dot com dot au

[djjp]

1 4 cavity .457

djjp at comcast dot net

[scarry scarney]

Count me in for one .455 four cavity mold. Somewhereinca at comcast dot net

[btreanor]

I would like one 4-cavity .455. Thanks!

btreanor at hotmail dot com

[Wierzbowski]

I'd like one .455 four-cavity, please.

jeffrey underscore kelso at hotmail dot com

Thanks!

[Spanners]

Yes please porrittm at hotmail dot com

[Onty]

Yes please porrittm at hotmail dot com

Since you did not specify dia, I put .455. Let me know if you want to change it. Thanks.

[Spanners]

Since you did not specify dia, I put .455. Let me know if you want to change it. Thanks.

I dont know diameter really - havnt slugged the gun - its a MKVI so I spose 455 will be sweet?

[hoopkb]

I'll take one 4-cavity at .457 with the extra set of solid base pins.

Thanks,

Kim

kimdotbdothooperatusdotarmydotmil

[bonza]

Any update on a production schedule? I now have two .455 revolvers (purchased since this group buy began) & am getting antsy to cast some bullets!!

[Rotaxxx]

Can you add the blank pins to my mold order? Thanks

[Dead Dog Jack]

Any update on a production schedule? I now have two .455 revolvers (purchased since this group buy began) & am getting antsy to cast some bullets!!

Onty - have you heard anything about when these will be scheduled? Thanks!

[Onty]

Looks like (my estimate, according to what I know about his workload) end of February, if everything goes OK. Boy, we keep him busy...

[Hardball26]

Howdy,
I joined the forum today in hopes of getting in on the group buy. Is it still open? If so, I would like to sign up for one .455 mould with an extra set of pins. I have a Mark VI and the chamber throats measure .451.
aardvark thirteen at hotmail dot com

[Onty]

Updates done, welcome Hardball26, you are in.

[sandermar]

Hey thanks Onty for keeping this going. :happy dance:

[Onty]

Hi folks, my apology for not following up, I am in such situation that access to internet is very limited, hope to improve within several days.

Also, please check the list and if something is not correct, let me know ASAP.

Regards.

[Dschuttig]

What would be the more appropriate diameter for a webley pistol? I figure that eventually I will own one of these since I collect C&R stuff. What other purpose are these being used for? Lightweight 45 rifle load?

[quasi]

here are my Dimensions; Webely R.I.C. .476 Caliber throats .459 bore dia. .447
S&W 2nd model hand ejector .455 caliber .458 throats .446 bore


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s320/buckbrush1961/003.jpg

[Springfield]

Waiting for the "proper" bullets. Along with my MKVl and my S&W in .455, although it has been cut and will need 45AR brass, unlike the original caliber Webley's.

[hoopkb]

What handles will these take?

Thanks

Kim

[shoe303]

Put me down for one in .455. Email is ronshoes at hotmail dot com

[Rotaxxx]

Any idea when the molds will go into production?

[Bodydoc447]

Please add me to thelist for a .455 diameter.
BodyDoc447 at aol dot com
Thanks,
Doc

[rockrat]

Love to get one, but don't have a paypal account. Anyone in Colorado want to order a spare and I will just pick it up. I would want a 4 cav rn

[Onty]

Update done, still have a hard time getting on internet.

As for time when this one will be done, I do not know yet. Hope Miha will let us know.

Regards, Onty.

[tidal]

What would be the more appropriate diameter for a webley pistol? I figure that eventually I will own one of these since I collect C&R stuff. What other purpose are these being used for? Lightweight 45 rifle load?

Most Webley Cylinder Throats are around .459 or .450 so 451 would be ideal & would be what I would order if available but if you lead is soft enough the .455 shouldnt be a problem or simply buy a sizer and push each projectile through?
Just ned to find a good unmolested original Webley :-)
.

[Onty]

Hi to all. I am finally back to normal. Update done and H. Hagan is our latest member, welcome!

[Onty]

Love to get one, but don't have a paypal account. Anyone in Colorado want to order a spare and I will just pick it up. I would want a 4 cav rn

I still need your e-mail camouflaged xxxxx at xxxxxx dot xxx. As for payment, once you receive invoice from Miha, you can contact him what could be done. For my first mould I even sent a cash. Certainly, not smartest way to make payment, but I and some others did it...

[Spanners]

Being a casting virgin, what else will I need (handles etc) for the mould? - I'll get a mate to cook the lead and pour for me.

[dromia]

Being a casting virgin, what else will I need (handles etc) for the mould? - I'll get a mate to cook the lead and pour for me.

You would be better asking this question in the cast boolit section not here in the Group Buy section, a tad too Off Topic here.

[fred2892]

Being a casting virgin, what else will I need (handles etc) for the mould? - I'll get a mate to cook the lead and pour for me.

Good question, anyone know which handles Miha cuts his moulds to fit?

[happy7]

Lee Six cavity

[jethunter]

Sorry if this already covered somewhere, but does this mould come with top punch from Mihec?

[Onty]

Hang on folks, a bird came from another side of the pond and whispered in my ear that we are one big step closer to Miha's milling table [smilie=w:.

CHECK THE LIST and let me know ASAP if something has to be corrected.

For all those still undecided, this GB will be closed in matter of days.

Cheers!

[MiHec]

Sorry if this already covered somewhere, but does this mould come with top punch from Mihec?

Rcbs/Lyman top punch is all ways included

[Shooternz]

shooternz,robertwalker1atvodafonedotcodotnz, one .455"

[Stripes003]

Hello, I am new to the forum and new to .455

I just bought a Webley mk 3 last week. Looking to reload for it and I just found this group buy.

I want in on this deal but being new to the caliber and the gun I don't know if I should get the .455 mold or the .457

Please help

Thank you

[Onty]

Shooternz, Stripes003, welcome.

As for casting dia for Webley Mk 3, I think you should go with .455 dia. Webley have normally about .450 dia chambers (on two I have, they measured about .450 and .451, I had one that measured .449). I listed you Stripes003 for .455, let me know if you want to change dia.

[Stripes003]

Thank you Onty

[rockrat]

(P)apa (A)lpha (V)ictor (P)apa at montrose.net Use 4 obvious letters. small case

.455"

[Stripes003]

Stripes003 .455

My email is

goldendragon003 at Gmail dot com

[GrantRCanada]

GrantRCanada - grantrombough at shaw dot ca - .455 mould with extra base pins.

(In case you can't find me in the member database, I am actually registered here as `GrantRCanada - which is because of a "typo" .... I accidentally brushed the ~/` key below the escape key, but didn't notice until I was registered! Is there any way I can get that corrected to eliminate the ` symbol at the front of my username? Can a Moderator help, or ....?)

[Dead Dog Jack]

GrantRCanada - grantrombough at shaw dot ca - .455 mould with extra base pins.


Good to see you here, Grant. In case your interested, there is also a group buy for the British 380/200 round (proper profile) going on here: 380/200 Mk. I British Group Buy (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=132996)

[jethunter]

Can I add one additional set of base pins to my order, please?

[Onty]

Can I add one additional set of base pins to my order, please?

Done.

Grant, glad to see correction was done.

[Lvoight]

Hello, I am a new member here, is it too late to get in?
If not, I would like to order a 4 boolit mold with extra pins.

Lew

Lvoight at optonline dot net

[MiHec]

Cherry......

[Onty]

Hello, I am a new member here, is it too late to get in?
If not, I would like to order a 4 boolit mold with extra pins.

Lew

Lvoight at optonline dot net

I would say you are still OK, Miha did not give me a sign to close this GB yet, but for all those still undecided, closing time is approaching rapidly.

BTW, I put you for .455 dia. If you have a Webley, this is all you need. If you have S&W, Colt or something else, check cylinder dia and let me know if you want to change it to .457.

Way to go Miha :drinks: !

[Lvoight]

Onty, thank you, yes I have a Webley WG and .455 is right.

Sorry,

Lew

[MikeS]

Is it too late to get into this buy? If so, I'd like a 4 cavity .455 mould. the email is:

agrijag42ATmacDOTcom

Thanks!

[Onty]

Is it too late to get into this buy? If so, I'd like a 4 cavity .455 mould. the email is:

agrijag42ATmacDOTcom

Thanks!

GB still open, you are on the list.

Regards, Onty

[jethunter]

Onty, please remove the set of spare base pins from my order on line #14, I only wanted one set of spare base pins total and this is already captured in line #13.

Thanks!

[Onty]

Onty, please remove the set of spare base pins from my order on line #14, I only wanted one set of spare base pins total and this is already captured in line #13.

Thanks!

Done!

[peterb1205]

peterb1205.... peter at tdmdesign dot ca

One 455 dia. mold for me please (Webley Mk.VI)

[Onty]

peterb1205.... peter at tdmdesign dot ca

One 455 dia. mold for me please (Webley Mk.VI)

Welcome Peter, you are on the list.

[buck1]

One .455 with extra set of solid pins please. I cant belive I almost missed this, My #V will be sooo pleased! Thanks ...Buck

C_atfish at hotmail dot com

[Onty]

One .455 with extra set of solid pins please. I cant belive I almost missed this, My #V will be sooo pleased! Thanks ...Buck

C_atfish at hotmail dot com

Done, welcome.

[bydand]

.455.
smle303john@comcast.net

[Onty]

.455.
smle303john...

Welcome. BTW, change your pasword to smle303john at comcast dot net, otherwise, spammers will grab it and you will be flooded with junk e-mail.

[Dead Dog Jack]

Onty, I think you've got bydand twice. Check numbers 15 & 73. :)

[Onty]

Onty, I think you've got bydand twice. Check numbers 15 & 73. :)

THANKS, correction done.

[tnraines]

How long is this buy open for? Can I wait till monday is what I am really wanting to know

[Onty]

How long is this buy open for? Can I wait till monday is what I am really wanting to know

Not closed yet, but it could be any time. No problem for Monday, I'll wait in case Miha signals me to close this GB.

Onty

[Spedini]

I`ll take one of the moulds if it`s possible shipping it to Sweden.:drinks:

[Onty]

I`ll take one of the moulds if it`s possible shipping it to Sweden.:drinks:

I do not see any problem getting these moulds into Sweden. I need your e-mail (camouflaged) and diameter. Also. let me know if you want additional blank pins for flat base.

Regards

[Gunsmoke4570]

I'm in for one. No extra pins.

gunsmoke4570 at aol dot com

[Stripes003]

Any idea when this group buy will be happening?

[Onty]

Still waiting, Miha ordered cutting tool, but he must be VERY busy with other projects we piled up on him. I would say that waiting is the price we have to pay for top quality molds at very reasonable price.

[Hone_Heke]

Can you please add me to the list
sammanderson at gmail dot com
With a set of blank pins

Cheers,

[ddixie884]

Add me to the list .455 with the xtra blank pins. THANX....... My cammoed E-mail is below.......

[trav70]

Hi, could you please put me down for one also, .455

travers.sean at gmail.com

[Wreck Checker]

Please add me to the list:
(plus set of blank pins) .455 dia.
jensen.james at gmail dot com

[Onty]

Bandit from Ireland; I need your E-mail (camouflaged, see post 1), boolit dia (.455 or .457) and if you want pins for solid base.

[wireless wpn]

Add me to the list:

Plus set of blank pins

.455 dia.

ve3yc at bell dot net

[Spanners]

Can you add pins to mine also please

[Cottage Hill Bill]

One in .455 please
reesewilliams at att dot net

[Jalapeno Jake]

Howdy,
Please put me down for one in .455.
Thanks,
jake20251 at aol dot com
Jalapeno Jake

Thanks to GrantR for the heads up.

[twiggs1]

Put me down for one in .457.

twiggs1 toyon.wiggs at gmail

Thanks!

[dominicfortune00]

I'll take one in .455.

dominicfortune00 at yahoo dot com

[jethunter]

Onty,
I have 2 moulds already on the list (#13 & #14)
Now I need to order an additional 4C .455 mould for a friend.
Could you put it on the list, please.
j3526134 at telus dot net
Thanks, terry

[Onty]

Thanks to all, list updated.

Regards, Onty.

[Max2005]

Put me down for one in .455 - can you tell me if they come with handles or what type will I need? Also, why extra pins? Is this a part that will wear out with normal careful use?

Thanks

geoffsmiller at comcast dot net

[MiHec]

Just for info......

[happy7]

Just curious. That doesn't look like a cherry for a nose pour design.

[MiHec]

Just curious. That doesn't look like a cherry for a nose pour design.

It will be cut "from behind"

[happy7]

great idea! And that way you can also use it for a base pour mold as well.

[Onty]

Put me down for one in .455 - can you tell me if they come with handles or what type will I need? Also, why extra pins? Is this a part that will wear out with normal careful use?

Thanks

geoffsmiller at comcast dot net

I will try to explain, please correct me if I am wrong. Pins for solid base are for those folks who would like heavier boolits and for higher pressure loads. When hollow base boolit is used with high pressure loads, muzzle pressure is still high enough to deform the base and accuracy goes downhill. With standard Webley pressure loads hollow base is not deformed, and these boolits are usualy quite accurate if revolver is in good shape and loads are right.

THANKS MIHA, looks like our moulds are close to be cut.

[bonza]

"Also, why extra pins? Is this a part that will wear out with normal careful use?"

To simplify, if I may; the mold is designed to be used with pins that will form the bullet with a hollow base, as per the original .455 Webley bullet. For those purchasers wishing to cast a solid base bullet, optional plain base pins are available. In other words, the extra pins are not spare parts, but offer a bit more versatility in bullet design.

[junkdude]

Please add me for a 0.455 and the extra base pins,

Thanks

junkdude at efirehose dot net

[Onty]

Marc from Omaproducts, you are on the list.

All others, please check your e-mail, dia and list for additional blank pins, and let me know ASAP if something has to be corrected.

Cheers, Onty.

[Hone_Heke]

Any news?

[quasi]

Onty, most of Western Europe takes all of August as holidays, I don't know about Slovenia's culture, however.

[HARRYMPOPE]

i didn't get an email.Do i owe money yet?

[twiggs1]

Please add blank pins to twiggs1

[Onty]

Onty, most of Western Europe takes all of August as holidays, I don't know about Slovenia's culture, however.

Almost the same, Italy is basically shut down for August. Slovenia, Croatia and even Montenegro and Albania are all flooded by tourists from Italy.


i didn't get an email.Do i owe money yet?

Nope, once moulds are finished, Miha will contact you by e-mail asking for shipping address, and instructions and link to pay by Paypal.


Please add blank pins to twiggs1

Done!

[Onty]

LAST CALL; this group buy (GB) is closing on Sunday, Aug. 26. 2012. Please inform others who might be interested. Miha expect to have them done by end of September.

Please check once more all data; e-mail, diameter and solid base pins (if you want them).

Al the best and thank you for participating in this GB.

Onty

P.S One personal wish; if you know where I can get in Europe a nice 450/455/476 WG, WS, commercial MkVI, or even Wilkinson, please let me know.

[Spanners]

Please add Blank pins to mine also

[Onty]

Please add Blank pins to mine also

Thanks, it's done.

[jethunter]

Onty, please change diameter on #86 to .457".
Thanks!

[Onty]

This GB is now closed. I would like to thank all of you who participated. Your enthusiasm and support was crucial to make it happen.

If somebody is late, and still wants this mould, please contact Miha directly http://www.mp-molds.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_smartformer&Itemid=85&lang=en ASAP. He is going to make same extra, but do not count on that, I bet any overrun will be snapped fast.

Many thanks again, Onty.

[m.chalmers]

Anyone get a bill yet?

[HARRYMPOPE]

not me yet

[jethunter]

No need to worry yet - Miha doesn't send the paypal invoice until the moulds are ready to ship. That is still likely a couple weeks away and you won't see a request for payment before then.

[Springfield]

We gotta be close. I tumbled my Webley brass in anticipation.

[MikeS]

I need to not only find webley brass but I need to find a webley to shoot them from! I just bought a Remington rolling block, so I'll have to put my search on hold for a bit. With my luck I'll find one that's like new but won't have the funds!

[bonza]

When I put my name down for one of these molds I didn't own a .455, now I have three of them! They will be VERY happy when the mold gets here!!

[Onty]

This thread is closed. For any future posting, please go to ˝Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment˝ http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=166597.