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Woody Shootem
09-06-2011, 11:54 AM
I'm hoping that some of you might be able to make some recommendations for bullets for my new Pedersoli Quigley rifle in .45-70. I had a Navy Arms trapdoor carbine previously, so I do have supplies and some experience loading .45-70, but I want to be able to shoot this rifle out to 500 yards at my local range. I slugged the bore, and it comes out at .457 (did this twice just to make sure).

FYI, I intend to only use black powder in this rifle.

I currently have a lyman 457193 mould I used with the trapdoor. I also have an assortment of Lee moulds in varying weights.

Can some of you kindly give me some recommendations as to what has worked for you? It would probably save me a lot of time and aggravation.

Thanks for your help.
Woody

The Goose
09-06-2011, 03:17 PM
I have a Pedersoli Long Range Express in .45-70. I have not found the 457193 very good at longer ranges. I cast the good old Lyman 457125 500 gr roundnose and 457132 535 gr postell bullet. I belive that Lee makes a 500 gr mold also. I think the bigger bullets are better for longer range.

John Boy
09-06-2011, 09:12 PM
Woody, in addition to the 500gr govt bullet and Postell, any bullet of the Creedmoor design

manti.hunter
09-07-2011, 11:14 AM
I'll second the Lyman 457132 Postell bullet. Mine cast at 530 grains and I size them to 458 and lube with SPG. They shoot great in my Pedersoli Sharps 45-90 with 75 grains (weighed) of GOEX or KIK 2Fg and a 1/8" Wonder Wad. Good luck.

Woody Shootem
09-07-2011, 10:15 PM
Thanks for your recommendations, guys. John Boy, can you define "Creedmoor design" for me? Sorry for the newby-type questions, but I'm not familiar with that term. I'm guessing it has something to do with the profile of the nose.

Thanks!

montana_charlie
09-08-2011, 11:34 AM
define "Creedmoor design" for me?
I'm guessing it has something to do with the profile of the nose.
The mould might be made by any maker, but the design will normally be called the Paul Jones Creedmoor (or PJ Creedmoor).
It is a little more 'full' in the nose than the Postell, shifting the center of balance slightly more forward. Fit's a steep leade angle better ... like a Postell fits a shallow leade. The Creedmoor is also slightly heavier.

Postell:

http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/458-525-PB-2.jpg


Creedmoor:

http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog/458-540.jpg

These images come from the NEI catalog.

CM

John Boy
09-08-2011, 11:44 AM
Thanks Charlie!

Woody Shootem
09-08-2011, 07:10 PM
Ah, that clears it up! Thank you both!