crazy boolit idea!

[beladran]

ok so i got bored and thought of something.. im sure this has been talked about befor..

this is what you need for a .357 mag bullet

1-.360(4/11) hole punch
1- sheet of 2-3mm lead sheet
1- hard lube
1-qtip
1-alox
1-sizer

lay your sheet out and start punching out discs.. when you get six disc cut soften up your lube and put a small dab in the center of each disc so they stick together. Run the "disc pack" through your sizer. Dip qtip in alox and coat bullet... Load like a wad cutter. You need to use a fluffy powder like trail boss so the load will be semi compressed so the disc dont seperate.. The range of this bullet is gonna suck but say under 25 feet the devistation this round would cause would be massive!!(well in my head at least)

one problem i am thinking about is the barrel twist sending the pellets all over creation when they leave the barrel...

i know the whole story about not using reloads for self defense bla bla bla lets skip that


thoughts on the idea???

[troy_mclure]

id be worried about a disk turning sideways in the barrel and stopping there.
and such a light disk wouldnt offer much penetration, it would also like buzz off like coins when flipped.

you might be better off with a thin paper patch, that way the load would hold together to the target then seperate.

[beladran]

nice... didnt think about a paper patch to hold them

[wallenba]

What movie was it? Charles Bronson's characater would load ten thin dimes in his shotgun? Reminds me of that.

[troy_mclure]

heck, some good superglue would probably work as well. layer the disks/glue then compress with a C-clamp until dry. then size.

[beladran]

troy we must be brothers cuz i was just thinking the exact same thing

[troy_mclure]

lol. or for a weaker hold try loctite between the disks.

[beladran]

i am gonna search the net for a hole punch and see if this idea will actually work.. if the bullets hold up on paper targets i got a recipie for homemade ballistics gel an put it to the test

[williamwaco]

This is WAY too much trouble.

Did you know that 000 Buckshot is exactly .360 in diameter?

[troy_mclure]

but buck shot is round and has no "cutting" surface and you cant stack nearly many peices of round shot in the same space you can get flat disks.

[dverna]

I believe at one time Lyman made a 75 grain bullet in .358". Two could be stacked up into one projectile. It would print two holes a few inches apart at whatever range the guy was testing at.

As accuracy is unimportant you could likely make a mold or modify a cheap Lee Tumble lube design to accomplish the same thing as the Lyman. See Lee TL358-148-WC

Don

[olafhardt]

grind a sharp edge on a piece of 38brass. That should cut lead. Myth busters tried the load of dimes with limited sucess IRC.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

What movie was it? Charles Bronson's characater would load ten thin dimes in his shotgun? Reminds me of that.



i was just thinking of that movie also , you could punch the disks to fit a shot cup

it would be interesting to see how it patterned if it would stay as 1 mass or spread

[stubshaft]

What about using a smaller size buckshot like #4 and using the lubrisizer to swage it into a disk?

[45 2.1]

Been done before....................... Try it out, then tell what you got.

[troy_mclure]

grind a sharp edge on a piece of 38brass. That should cut lead. Myth busters tried the load of dimes with limited sucess IRC.

but they used modern zink dimes, not the older silver dimes as was likely used.

[beladran]

.... only time i gonna sling silver bullets is if there is warewolfs crawling around...

[45lcrevolver]

The movie young gunz had the dime in the shotgun deal. Very devastating from what I saw. But the again it was a movie lol. Id say it would work but very limited range. I think Winchester has something like that for there .410 gauge load. I think it's three disks and 3 00 buck not sure but something like that. Try and take pics to share!

[leadman]

There was a mold you could buy at one time that cast a disk that was raised in the center. Think 3 were stacked in a cartridge. Might have been the Lyman in previous post.
If you had a way to form the disk like this it may help them fly.

[rintinglen]

I gave the 358-101 75 grainer a try, both double stacked in 38 brass and triple stacked in 357 brass. I also tried it under a 115 grain 358-345. Very poor penetration, and too imprecise to be effective IMO, although it was worth the trouble to see my friend Howard's face when I fired 6 shots and had 18 holes in the target.

[fcvan]

20+ years ago, I made small .358 wadcutters in either 25gr or 40gr weights. I did this after reading the performance specs for Multiple Munitions Incorporated. I would load 2, 3, or 4 wadcutters and work up loads carefully. The result was a pattern of about 2-3 inches from 5 yards.

I made the wadcutters with a Lee 158gr single cavity hollow point mold. I cut down a cast boolit and seated a gas check to where the check rested into driving band. This shortened boolit effectively made the mold drop 25gr or 40gr wadcutters. Recently, I found a sack of them I had made back in the 80s. I had fun making them, had fun shooting them, but still want a 000 buck mold for making plinker loads. Frank