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HenryC460
05-22-2011, 05:08 PM
We are starting an Active Buy for a Cramer-type brass 4-cavity plain base mould that casts in the popular Hensley & Gibbs #68 profile.

http://www.mp-molds.com/images/hg68_pb.jpg

By reversing the pins, the mould will cast either 200 grain solid nose or 185 grain hollowpoint boolits. You can order yours in 0.452" or 0.454" (nominal). They will cast half a thousandth to a thousandth larger than that when fed straight wheelweight.

Here is some information on Cramer-type moulds for those of you who are interested:

And here's the mould maker's site, where you can learn a lot about the sort of work he does:

www.mp-molds.com

If you want on the list, either post your "masked" email address (e. g. homer underscore simpson at springfieldelectric dot com, what diameter you'd like, and whether you'd like that with Mihec's excellent handles (the mould also works with Lee 6-cavity handles).

This group buy is for a brass, 4-cavity, plain base, Cramer-type H&G #68 mould that casts either 0.452" or 0.454" boolits (your choice). Moulds are $120 plus$20 shipping.

The following paragraph no longer applies:

Choice of pin type (round or pentagonal) will depend on interest level. Fifteen orders gets us round pins. Somewhat more than 15 orders for pentagonal pins will be required to make that happen. Five-sided pins are an extra $16. The moulds have been built, and prototype pentagonal pins have proven non-feasible given the long, small nose of the H&G #68. This mould comes with round pins to cast a round hollow point and blank pins to cast a solid nose. The moulds accept Lee 6-cavity handles, and Miha also makes super nice handles for$23 plus $7 shipping. Here is the list. Please specify your diameter (0.452 or 0.454). 1. dragonrider . . . . . dragonrider at charter dot net - 0.452 2. tonyjones . . . . . tony dot jones1951 at att dot net - 0.452 3. hicard . . . . . hicard at theskybeam dot com 0.452 4. BoolitBill . . . . . tanstaafldds at aol dot com - 0.452 5. L1A1Rocker . . . . . flstf93james AT yahoo DOT com - 0.452 6. practical man . . . . . 1practical dot man at gmail dot com - 0.452 7. chprplt . . . . . exit13five at aol dot com - 0.452 8. chprplt . . . . . exit13five at aol dot com - 0.452 9. Valley Forge . . . . . lfh at hollywoodsound dot com - available, 0.452, with handles 10. gmsharps . . . . . gmsharps at CS dot com - 0.452 11. crf250x . . . . . a1acp at msn.com - 0.452 12. crf250x . . . . . a1acp at msn.com - 0.452 13. KennethF . . . . . snugglebeargus at aol dot com - 0.452 14. rintinglen . . . . . ghoglin at hotmail dot com - 0.452 15. shaggyant . . . . . Mischievous_007_ at hotmail dot com - 0.452 16. 2240blaster . . . . . plak at hawaii dot rr dot com - 0.452 17. colt saa . . . . . Colt_SAA at RocketMail dot Com - 0.452 18. fivegunner . . . . . fivegunner at sbcglobal.net - 0.452 19. Salmon-boy . . . . . Salmon-boy using comcast for net - 0.452 20. Maximumbob54 . . . . . maximumbobby_54 aT yahoo DOT com - 0.452, with handles 21. MtMark45 . . . . . mlkeith45 at AOL dot com - 0.452 22. mold maker . . . . . alicejerry at charter dot net - 0.452 23. HDS . . . . . dennis dot aspo at gmail dot com - 0.452, with handles 24. Viagrow . . . . . . bnoble758 at sbcglobal dot net - 0.452 25. Viagrow . . . . . . bnoble758 at sbcglobal dot net - 0.452 26. Cast of Thousands . . . . . ronaldrodina at sbcglobal dot net - 0.452 27. Visible Miss . . . . . bargentos at msn dot com - 0.452, with handles 28. Aaron . . . . . 5090shiloh at gmaildot com - 0.454 29. Dirtdgger . . . . . dirtdgger3355 at yahoo dot com - 0.452 30. Rick B . . . . . hplongrange at gmail dot com - 0.452 31. dagunnut . . . . . robertzanoni at yahoo dot com - 0.452 31. Elkins45 . . . . . Elkins at iglou dot com - 0.452 32. gvrj . . . . . George at rayclan dot net - 0.452 33. Snoopz . . . . . Krantzent at googlemail dot com - 0.452 34. rxp46 . . . . . janhagemans at hetnet dot nl - 0.454 35. LabGuy . . . . . LCEL at hotmail dot com - 0.454 36. Ozarklongshot . . . . . . Stoneaxe42 at Yahoo dot com - 0.452 37. Cord . . . . . . denbay29 at sbcglobal dot net - 0.454 38. btreanor . . . . . btreanor at hotmail dot com - 0.452 39. gaperry . . . . . ga perry 59 at embarq mail dot com - 0.452 40. T-Town Assassin . . . . . . dblock62 AT gmail dot com - 0.452 41. FLYBOY . . . . . rocrook at lexcominc.com - 0.454 42. sza . . . . . burch at offline dot org - 0.452, with handles 43. Ecomm123 . . . . . ecomm711 at maierassociates dot com - 0.452 round pins, with handles 44. Ecomm123 . . . . . ecomm711 at maierassociates dot com - 0.452 round pins, with handles 45. shooter3gun . . . . . mjkpa at comcast dot net - 0.452 round pins, with handles 46. shooter3gun . . . . . mjkpa at comcast dot net - 0.452, round pins with handles 47. GregBCE . . . . . GregBCE at verizon dot net - 0.452, with handles 48. GregBCE . . . . . GregBCE at verizon dot net - 0.452, with handles 49. Village Idiot . . . . . krzin08 at yahoo dot com - 0.454, round pins 50. Paul105 . . . . . paul {summers} 105 (at) msn \dot\ com - 0.452 51. 358wcf . . . . . CV cooks (all one word) at astound dot net - 0.452 52. Live2Ride . . . . . dan underscore harben at msn dot com - 0.454 53. coloraydo . . . . . vannatta at centurytel dot net - 0.452 54. cef . . . . . cnfaber at evertek dot net - 0.452 55. Pystis . . . . . mutalakalkku(at)hotmail dot com - 0.452, with handles 56. MANGYCOYOTE . . . . . deedonc at yahoo dot com - 0.452 57. 58. 59. 60. L1A1Rocker 05-23-2011, 01:18 PM Gunna bump this thread. This is going to be a Hollow Pointed H & G #68. I can't believe that there aren't 50 people signed up by now. chprplt 05-23-2011, 05:22 PM I agree...Gotta get one of these!!!....exit13five at aol dot com .452, all pins, but round okay. Thanks for running this one. Think pentagonal HenryC460 05-23-2011, 06:46 PM Got it. We're about half way. Valley Forge 05-24-2011, 10:15 PM Well doggone it, I want one of these in .452", both pins if available and a set of handles please. "Valley Forge" -lfh at hollywoodsound dot com HenryC460 05-26-2011, 05:00 AM gotcha. Now we're on the other side of the hill. Triggerhappy 05-27-2011, 09:50 AM I'm game for one pending pricing... Triggerhappy . . . . . brian at macgurus dot com - all pins .452" Thanks, TH HenryC460 05-27-2011, 06:11 PM I'm game for one pending pricing... Triggerhappy . . . . . brian at macgurus dot com - all pins .452" Thanks, TH$120, plus $20 shipping, plus$16 for the five-sided pins (assuming that option happens). Are you in?

gmsharps
05-28-2011, 06:27 AM
gmsharps gmsharps at CS dot com both pins if available, 0.452

L1A1Rocker
05-29-2011, 10:30 AM
We're coming along. Just a few more to make it on the schedule.

KennethF
06-01-2011, 10:20 PM
I want one, .452 with both pin types.

KennethF snugglebeargus at aol dot com

HenryC460
06-04-2011, 04:58 AM

By the way...

New thread title. It didn't disappear. L1AiRocker suggested it might catch more attention, and I added in Miha's name so it's easier for him to keep track of.

1911sw45
06-17-2011, 07:06 PM
$120, plus$20 shipping, plus $16 for the five-sided pins (assuming that option happens). Are you in? Is this a sure thing price? I have not seen Micha comment on price? If it is I would be in on this. Adam HenryC460 06-18-2011, 05:26 AM Is this a sure thing price? I have not seen Micha comment on price? If it is I would be in on this. Adam That is the official price. Miha wrote me in a PM: Price for cramer would be 120$ plus 20$shipping (plus 16$ for extra 5 sided pins) for 4 cavity brass.

What diameter would you like? Just round pins or both kinds? Would you like handles with that?

Thanks

rintinglen
06-18-2011, 05:59 AM
Sigh, you guys are going to cost me my next gun. Sign me up 4 cavity round pins only, 452 diameter.

HenryC460
06-18-2011, 06:10 AM
I have requested a change of title.

Someone suggested to me that "Hollow Point" is more eyecatching than "Cramer-Type", so the new title should read "Hollow point (Cramer)" (should eliminate some confusion with the other buy as well).

I have also removed the descriptor "200 grains" from the thread title. This mould will cast a hollow point version of the 200 grain H&G #68, but (because air is lighter than lead) the hollow point removes about 15 grains of weight. The hollow point boolits you actually get from this mould will actually weigh about 185 grains.

JoeBob
06-18-2011, 10:37 PM
hollowpoint 0.454" all pins

sidneyjanetsnow at bellsouth dot net
Thanks, JB

crf250x
06-19-2011, 12:59 AM
I guess I'll take one too, a1acp at msn.com with round pin in .452

HenryC460
06-20-2011, 09:17 AM
I guess I'll take one too, a1acp at msn.com with round pin in .452

You are #15 on the list.

That means we have reached the threshold to have these moulds made (15).

We have:

Fifiteen orders for moulds.

Fourteen orders saying round pins at least (I've got to get one buyer's email, diameter, and pin preferences yet).

Nine orders that would at least like pentagonal pins.

I am not sure how many buyers would consider round pins only a deal breaker. We need somewhat more than 15 orders for the pentagonal pins if any pentagonal pins are going to be made, and I'd say we're only near halfway to somewhat-more-than-15 on those pentagonals right now.

midnight
06-20-2011, 10:37 AM
I thought I was already signed up? There are two threads in the Active Group Buys for this mould. There are 49 guys signed up on the first one. If that thread is just the discussion thread, maybe it should be moved there. I guess I'll sign up again. rwhyte at wi dot rr dot com. one mould 0.452 all pins. Round pins OK if pentas are not available.

2240blaster
06-20-2011, 10:45 AM
I'll take sone too. Round pin in .452

colt_saa
06-20-2011, 07:21 PM
Count me in for a 452with round pins.

Colt_SAA
at
RocketMail.Com

fivegunner
06-21-2011, 02:35 AM
I want one 4 cavity .452 with round pins. fivegunner at sbcglobal.net

Salmon-boy
06-21-2011, 05:34 PM
To quote a movie.. I GOTTA get me one of these!!!

4 cav .452 with pentagonal pins - Salmon-boy using comcast for net

Triggerhappy
06-23-2011, 09:15 AM
Hate to say it but I need to pull out of this buy.

Good luck and carry on folks.

TH

HenryC460
06-23-2011, 06:25 PM
Sorry to hear it Trig. You're welcome back if you change your mind.

Meanwhile, for anybody who wants the #10 slot, it's open.

crf250x
06-28-2011, 10:41 AM
I'd like to change my order from one mold to two please. Same molds.

HenryC460
06-29-2011, 04:13 AM
I'd like to change my order from one mold to two please. Same molds.

You are #10 and #11 now.

JoeBob
07-01-2011, 03:03 PM
I need to drop off of this buy for now also.

I stumbled across Miha's overruns page, got a bit excited with what was available and will have to limit my obligations for a while.

I'll try to get back if I'm able to recover before last call.

Apologetically,

Joebob.

HenryC460
07-06-2011, 09:42 AM
Slot #14 is available!

shaggyant
07-06-2011, 12:29 PM
I'm in for one of these in .452 with the penta pins if possible. If not round is ok too.
Mischievous_007_ at hotmail dot com

HenryC460
07-10-2011, 07:50 PM
shaggyant,

You have got the #14 slot. Welcome.

HDS
07-11-2011, 01:40 AM
Hmmm, this looks interesting but I am already on the regular HG #68 group buy, any particular reason for hollow pointing this bullet?

Maximumbob54
07-11-2011, 03:55 AM

maximumbobby_54 AT yahoo DOT com

MtMark45
07-11-2011, 10:15 PM
mlkeith45atAOLdotcom

HenryC460
07-12-2011, 10:23 AM
Hmmm, this looks interesting but I am already on the regular HG #68 group buy, any particular reason for hollow pointing this bullet?

I'll do my best...

There's terminal performance. A hollow point boolit might more quickly dispatch whatever you dispatch with it due to the bigger wound channel. It might tend to stay in the target instead of overpenetrating and hitting what's beyond it.

The hollow point boolit is going to have the same proven H&G #68 exterior profile as the solid nose, but it's 15 grains lighter. Everything else being constant, it flies a little faster, and at pistol shooting distances, that means flatter shooting, less drop to correct for.

The hollow points use 7.5% less lead per boolit. Shoot 14, and get one free!

The recoil and pressure characteristics for the 185 grain hollow point will be a little different than for a 200 grain solid nose. Since you can make both with the same mould, you get a couple of new tuning parameters for working up a load. It might make a finicky pistol easier to feed.

For a semiauto shooting semiwadcutters, pressure near the maximum is not generally an issue, but the same boolit, same cartridge is used in moon clipped revolvers. Someone with a 625 might want want to load something zippier (or save wear and tear by backing off on boolit weight and psi).

Then there's aesthetics. Hollow points look good. A box or a magazine or a cylinder full of hollowpoints has this high-quality, store bought, expensive character. Maybe it usefully distracts competitors at shooting matches. I don't know. In any case, if you have the mould, they're as cheap as their solid nose cousins, and if you have this mould, you can cast them hollow or solid.

Then there's professional considerations. If someone sells the boolits they cast, they might want to dress up their product line by saying "now available in hollow point." It might be a big seller, or it might keep a customer in "the store" a while longer, resulting in other sales. Why does the customer want this particular boolit in hollow point??? Probably for a few reasons more than I can think of.

mold maker
07-12-2011, 11:50 AM
I gotta do this one, in 452 with both pins.
alicejerry at charter dot net

HDS
07-14-2011, 02:30 PM
Thanks for the detailed explanation HenryC460! I got a lot of thinking todo now. Not sure I need HP capacity for this bullet, but it'd be nice to have I suppose, having a free bullet every 14th round is a real interesting argument. IIRC where there also some accuracy advantages to a HP, by it moving the center of gravity further back?

HDS
07-14-2011, 11:49 PM
OK! I am in!

dennis dot aspo at gmail dot com - round pins, .452"

If it's possible I would like to order handles as well.

Viagrow
07-16-2011, 07:27 PM
Count me in for a 4 cavity mold too.

bnoble758 at sbcglobal dot net.

phaessler
07-18-2011, 03:56 AM
I'm in...
phaessler haesslerpd at hughes dot net 0.452" hollowpoint round pins

Pete

HenryC460
07-20-2011, 03:15 PM
You're #24 Pete.

Visible Miss
07-26-2011, 08:43 PM
I guess I need one of these, too.
.452 with round pins and handles.

bargentos at msn dot com.

Thanks.

HenryC460
07-27-2011, 03:05 AM
I guess I need one of these, too.
.452 with round pins and handles.

bargentos at msn dot com.

Thanks.

You're in. Welcome.

shaggyant
07-27-2011, 07:20 PM
I saw the solid version of this mold just closed. How is far behind is this one?

HenryC460
07-27-2011, 07:27 PM
I saw the solid version of this mold just closed. How is far behind is this one?

I don't know how far. I'll ask Miha. This one is open for the moment, and I encourage anyone who would like one of these to get signed up. But I'll try and get some idea whether we're talking about days, weeks, or months.

Aaron
07-27-2011, 10:19 PM
I am in. 454 both pins please

5090shiloh at gmaildot com

Thanks Aaron

HDS
07-28-2011, 02:27 AM
BTW, any possibility of ordering handles too?

HenryC460
07-28-2011, 03:23 AM
BTW, any possibility of ordering handles too?
Yes. Handles are $23 plus$7 shipping. I'll add that to the first post. It slipped my mind.

HDS
07-28-2011, 05:25 AM
OK then I would also like some handles with my order.

HenryC460
07-28-2011, 08:59 AM
OK then I would also like some handles with my order.

I've got you down for handles now.

By the way, it appears this buy may be closing soon.

Dirtdgger
07-30-2011, 11:27 AM
Dirtdgger dirtdgger3355 at yahoo dot com 452 both pins

phaessler
07-30-2011, 03:51 PM
HenryC460,

Please change mine to 0.454" round pins
Thank you
Pete

HenryC460
08-02-2011, 04:47 AM
Got you switched Pete.

HenryC460
08-02-2011, 04:49 AM
I found this interesting discussion of hollowpoint lead boolit expansion, and just look at the interesting recovered boolits this fellow got with his pentagonal pins:

Some of the expanded boolit pictures there are as pretty as Hydra Shoks.

phaessler
08-02-2011, 09:24 AM
Ty very much...

Pete

HenryC460
08-06-2011, 07:48 AM
I think this buy is going to be closing very soon. Miha said he's waiting on his lathe man who was on holiday. I take it that when he comes back, I'll be getting the directions to close this shortly.

HDS
08-06-2011, 11:20 PM
I'm actually starting to wonder this close to the closing, about .452" or .454". I slugged my 1911 barrel to .451" and something, but I still wonder if maybe it would be safer to get a .454" and size to .452", to prevent any possibility of getting undersized bullets?

BoolitBill
08-07-2011, 09:19 AM
HDS, My experience with Mihec molds has been, if you order a .452 you will get either a .452 or a .453. I have never gotten an undersized mold from Mihec. I feel his quality is fantastic.

HDS
08-07-2011, 10:36 AM
Yeah I've been searching through old threads and a .452" looks like it'll be best suited for my purposes.

HenryC460
08-08-2011, 03:30 PM
HDS,

I'll keep you on the list for a 0.452 then.

I agonized no small amount about diameter, and I finally came up with 0.454 for a solid point mould, figuring I might be casting something softer than wheelweight some day (that might cast a hair smaller than wheelweight does).

mstarling
08-08-2011, 05:31 PM
I'm in ... 0.452" pentagonal pins if available, round otherwise. (Let me know how/when you need payment.)

ldmcrook
08-11-2011, 05:07 PM
I'm in for this one too, 0.452" with both pins and handles.

mjcrookston at msn.com

Thanks!

ldmcrook
08-11-2011, 05:21 PM
Sorry, cancel that, I just realized I already have one of these from the previous run. I gotta start paying better attention I guess.

DDriller
08-11-2011, 05:58 PM
I'm in for 0.452 with both pins
fuhr2003 at swbell dot net

Shakey Jakey
08-11-2011, 06:19 PM
I'm in for a .454 all pins if available. putzie at aol dot com.

dagunnut
08-11-2011, 07:11 PM
dagunnut . . . . . robertzanoni at yahoo dot com - I'm in for both pins if available, 0.452

HenryC460
08-11-2011, 07:35 PM
Three more orders for pentagonal pins! I count sixteen now.

Anybody else out there?

Picture of pentagonal hollowpoint expansion:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/BobMKIII/100_2482.jpg

Thanks Bob..

Note that the moulds in this buy will be available with round pins only. Pentagonal pins were prototyped, and a good pentagonal hollowpoint is not feasible because of the nose configuration of the H&G #68. Sorry for any inconvenience. H. C.

Here is an interesting discussion of the results:

HenryC460
08-11-2011, 07:39 PM
Here is a picture demostrating pentagonal hollowpoint expansion. Note that the moulds in this buy will be available with round pins only. Pentagonal pins were prototyped, and a good pentagonal hollowpoint is not feasible because of the nose configuration of the H&G #68. Sorry for any inconvenience. H. C.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/BobMKIII/100_2476.jpg

Thanks again Bob..

gvrj
08-11-2011, 07:43 PM
Okay I'm in.... .452" pentagonal pins if available, round otherwise

George

hicard
08-11-2011, 08:09 PM
I'm #3 on the list and would like the pentagonal pin option added to my order please.

mstarling
08-11-2011, 10:24 PM
Henry,

When you order pentagonal pins do you also get non-hollow point pin blanks?

Also ... any idea of how long it might take for this one to close?

Mike

HDS
08-11-2011, 11:51 PM
I assume you flip the pentagon pins upside down just like the normal HPs to produce a flatpoint.

mstarling
08-12-2011, 06:09 AM
Would be lovely. Haven't used the Cramer type mold even though I've cast bullets for more than 40 years ... good to learn new things.

HenryC460
08-12-2011, 09:35 AM
Mike,

If you flip the round pins, you get a flat point, solid nose H&G #68. With the pentagonal pins, I figure that's also what you get. My understanding is that all the moulds are shipping with round pins and that the pentagonals are an optional add-on.

Time-wise, I think it will be "soon." I asked Miha, and he was waiting for his lathe man, who was on holiday. I take that to mean these are being worked on and near done.

gvrj,

hicard,

Got you on the list for pentagonals.

Anybody else like pentagonals?

DukeInMaine
08-12-2011, 02:03 PM
I don't have a horse in this race, but I would guess that Miha would have made these molds at the same time he was making the other (non-hollow point) H&G 68's.

I'm surprised that he hasn't closed this one.

gvrj
08-12-2011, 02:14 PM
My email is George at rayclan dot net.

Thanks

HenryC460
08-12-2011, 03:30 PM
A cylinder full of pentagonal hollowpoints:

Thanks OBXPilgrim

Note that the moulds in this buy will be available with round pins only. Pentagonal pins were prototyped, and a good pentagonal hollowpoint is not feasible because of the nose configuration of the H&G #68. Sorry for any inconvenience. H. C.

Snoopz
08-13-2011, 10:55 AM
Sign me up, might as well go broke...should of never got back into reloading and casting, then found this place..this isn't looking good for the wallet...

Thanks much appreciated Snoopz ...

rxp46
08-14-2011, 02:50 PM
Put me on the list for a .454 HP with all the pins.

janhagemans at hetnet dot nl

gr jan

LabGuy
08-20-2011, 05:31 PM
Man I hope this isn't due the same time as the other 45 HP, I'm in.

0.454 all pins

LCEL at hotmail dot com

Ozarklongshot
08-20-2011, 09:07 PM
Ok I can,t take it no more, I surrender
If it's not to late, I'm in

Stoneaxe42 at Yahoo dot com

HenryC460
08-22-2011, 08:11 PM
LabGuy, Ozarklongshot:

You're in.

It's not too late yet, but it will be soon.

Cord
08-23-2011, 10:38 AM
Henry, you are doing a Great Job on these Group buys.
I'm in on this one, thanks for the chance.
.454 plus all available pins
denbay29 at sbcglobal dot net
.

btreanor
08-23-2011, 03:38 PM
I would like one of these, too! I would like the 0.452 with both pins.

e-mail: btreanor at hotmail dot com

Thanks!

HenryC460
08-25-2011, 04:00 AM
Thanks Cord.

You and btreanor are in.

mstarling
08-29-2011, 03:54 PM
Henry,

Found my old Lyman 358477 4 gang mould that I thought I was going to have to replace ... so have a little extra money ... please change my order to include all pins. Thank you!

Mike

HenryC460
08-30-2011, 09:51 AM
Hi Mike,

You are "both pins" order #25.

And I have somewhat discouraging news for 25 of you all. Miha is coming to the conclusion that a good pentagonal hollow point is not feasible for this boolit. The small nose on the H&G #68 appears to be the problem. Round hollow points are still a "go."

I had hoped the pentagonals would fly, and I did sell the pentagonals kinda hard to make sure that the number of orders (somewhat more than 15) wouldn't be the reason these didn't work out. I'm sorry if my working up your interest is causing you extra disappointment.

Ultimately, geometry and the laws of nature were against the pentagonal design, and it's very much looking as if geometry and the laws of nature are winning this one.

Miha will post on this topic.

mstarling
08-30-2011, 07:04 PM
RATS .... where did the pics of the 5 pointed flower come from? Someone made it work.

hicard
08-30-2011, 08:08 PM
Ok by me, I was thinking that the penta pins would be difficult so onward and upward.

Maximumbob54
08-31-2011, 03:21 AM
I know I'm not alone in the penta pins sticking to the bullets. Nothing I do seems to keep working. All the little tips and tricks I have read here work for a while and then stop. I even tried spraying them with Frankford Arsenal drop spray which seemed to work the best. I removed the pins so I didn't spray the brass at all. I far prefer the round pins. Maybe if the penta pins had more of a taper to them. I don't know really.

MiHec
08-31-2011, 03:24 AM
RATS .... where did the pics of the 5 pointed flower come from? Someone made it work.

Pictures are from .452-200 HP boolit

MiHec
08-31-2011, 03:29 AM
About penta pins for this one:

Pins are to small to produce. Even with round pins I have to shorten the base for 0,015 inch to get the desired 185 gn.

So with this mold you will get round and blank pins. (No extra cost)

HenryC460
08-31-2011, 04:14 AM
RATS .... where did the pics of the 5 pointed flower come from? Someone made it work.

Hi Mike,

Miha made it work with that particular bullet. The thing about the #68 is its long, conical, small-pointed nose. Those other bullets had a wider nose and (please forgive my lack of vocabulary) a rounded convex ogive.

I am sorry about those pictures. I ought to have been clear that the availability of pentagonals was subject to feasibility of design as well as a minimum number of orders, and I don't think I was.

mstarling
08-31-2011, 04:59 AM
Henry,

Ah ... I do understand better now. I did think the question was a rational one given what had been posted.

Can you tell me if the bullet produced by the 200 gr HP mold feeds in a ramped 1911 barrel?

Hate to back out on a buy ... not done it before and it is a very uncomfortable thing to do, but the 200 gr HP is being rerun now and looks close to closing.

Thanks,

Mike

Maximumbob54
08-31-2011, 05:44 AM
http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/Maximumbob54/2011-06-04_12-12-08_605.jpg

So far yes. I have tried them in my Colt 1991A1 and my Para LDA. And they are more acurate than I am. I am still tumble lubing or dipping them though.

mstarling
08-31-2011, 05:50 AM
Henry,

Please withdraw me from this group buy then. With my sincere apologies!

Mike

HenryC460
08-31-2011, 09:35 AM
Henry,

Please withdraw me from this group buy then. With my sincere apologies!

Mike

Mike,

I've got no hard feelings, and I don't think anyone has any.

You initially signed up for a pentagonal point, and those just don't work for this design. Unfortunately, that wasn't known until the prototype stage.

I'll take you off the list, and I'm glad there's a pentagonal buy open for you.

H. C.

hicard
08-31-2011, 11:03 AM
Mike, you will love those 200 gr rn hp/penta boolits, I have that mold and love it. I wanted this one too and it should be a real shooter with round hp's too.

phaessler
08-31-2011, 01:14 PM
Henry,
Please withdraw me from this buy , they cut our overtime out completely, a.k.a "play money", and dont want to stretch it to thin now.
Sorry for any inconvienence.
Thanks
phaessler

Pete

Cord
09-01-2011, 08:41 AM
This development is completely understandable, if disappointing.
I have the .452-200 RNHP/Penta, and like hicard says, it is great.
I recommend owning both if you can.

The acknowledgement of this problem, and the offer of the flat pins
at no charge, is an indication of Miha’s commitment to making
not only the best possible moulds, but the happiest customers too .

I hope the round HP cavity is as large and deep as possible,
as this will need to work at slightly above target velocities.

Whatever, I’m still in.

DDriller
09-01-2011, 03:18 PM
I also am going to withdraw at this time.

HDS
09-01-2011, 10:19 PM
I am still in, I only wanted a normal HP anyway. My primary reasons for going with a HP capable HG #68 over the solid was that I could vary between 200 and 185gr, and the better accuracy a HP gives you and safety improvement when shooting steel ofcourse. Don't need or want penta pins for that.

Dirtdgger
09-02-2011, 06:18 AM
I'm still in! round pins are fine with me. I'll spend the money on another set of handles.

LabGuy
09-04-2011, 01:17 PM
I'm still in also! I can live with just round pins.

L1A1Rocker
09-05-2011, 08:09 AM
Still in.

Cast of Thousands
09-06-2011, 04:42 AM
Sign me up:

I want a hollowpoint 452 and round pins
Cast of Thousands

HenryC460
09-06-2011, 07:10 PM
Sign me up:

I want a hollowpoint 452 and round pins
Cast of Thousands

You're in. #24.

btreanor
09-08-2011, 03:07 PM
I'm still in- the round pins are fine with me.

Thanks,

Bill

gvrj
09-09-2011, 07:14 PM
I'm still in! Let's do this!! Round pins all the way.

rintinglen
09-10-2011, 12:14 AM
I've no use for the penta points any way--they are harder to cast with, so I am still in.

Aaron
09-10-2011, 09:35 AM
I am still in

Aaron

Salmon-boy
09-11-2011, 04:26 PM
Round pins are fine by me...

Ozarklongshot
09-11-2011, 04:48 PM
I'm still in too

Valley Forge
09-13-2011, 05:57 AM
I'm still in.

BoolitBill
09-13-2011, 11:44 AM
Since everybody else is letting you know, then I am also still in

Viagrow
09-13-2011, 12:05 PM
I am still in...

Visible Miss
09-13-2011, 08:14 PM
I'm still in, too.

HDS
09-13-2011, 08:50 PM
Is that what this group buy is waiting for? I thought it would have been closed by now.

HenryC460
09-14-2011, 05:10 AM
Is that what this group buy is waiting for? I thought it would have been closed by now.

We're not waiting to hear back from buyers. As I understand it, the moulds are being made, and the closing notice is imminent. I'll ask Miha anyhow.

HenryC460
09-14-2011, 10:01 AM
We're not waiting to hear back from buyers. As I understand it, the moulds are being made, and the closing notice is imminent. I'll ask Miha anyhow.

But meanwhile, the buy is still open, so anybody who would like a gorgeous 4-cavity brass H&G #68 type mould that casts plain base solid point and hollowpoint boolits (comes with both sets of pins), comes with a matched nose punch and wrenches, and can be had in 0.452" or 0.454" diameter, you can still sign up here.

Maximumbob54
09-15-2011, 03:58 AM
May I please add a set of mold handles to my order?

HenryC460
09-16-2011, 03:39 PM
May I please add a set of mold handles to my order?

HenryC460
09-17-2011, 02:23 PM
Everyone,

This is the one-week warning. This buy will close next Saturday.

gaperry59
09-18-2011, 07:19 PM
Please add me for .452 if not too late, round pins are fine.

ga perry 59 at embarq mail dot com

T-Town Assassin
09-22-2011, 08:19 AM
Can you put me down for one of these in 452 please. anthony dot festa at hotmail dot com

FLYBOY
09-22-2011, 03:29 PM
I would be in for one 454 . Let me know. rocrook at lexcominc.com

sza
09-22-2011, 08:41 PM
Please put me down for one in .452 and a set of handles. burch at offline dot org

rintinglen
09-23-2011, 03:26 PM
just to make sure I'm in and get invoiced, my email is ghoglin at hotmail dot com. The "mr" does not belong in the address.

HenryC460
09-24-2011, 09:22 AM
LAST CALL!

This being Saturday, it's the last day this buy is open. If you want one, sign up now. Tomorrow morning, the CLOSED sign will be hung.

Shakey Jakey
09-24-2011, 05:26 PM
Please remove my name from the list. Thanks

HenryC460
09-25-2011, 06:37 AM
Closed

I will forward the list to Miha. You will get an invoice shortly. After that, you will get a beautiful brass mould that casts four boolits in the H&G #68 profile with solid or hollow points (depending on which pins you install) every time you pour lead in it.

Well, we're going to re-open it for a little bit.

Still Active

Rick B
09-25-2011, 06:09 PM
Will take post # 131's mold if its available. .452 w/round pins. hplongrange at gmail dot com. Thanks

HenryC460
10-01-2011, 04:19 PM
Will take post # 131's mold if its available. .452 w/round pins. hplongrange at gmail dot com. Thanks

Rick,

You're in.

All,

I've asked for this thread to be moved to Completed Group Buys, and I have (today) finished checking and correcting the list and sent the list to Miha. You will soon have invoices and beautiful brass Cramer-type moulds.

Thanks everyone.

rintinglen
10-07-2011, 08:38 PM
Hi there,--I still haven't got an invoice yet. Are they being sent out? There was a problem with my order last time.

sza
10-07-2011, 10:49 PM
I haven't received an invoice either, and was wondering when I should expect one. Just in case there's a problem with my email or something.

HDS
10-08-2011, 03:47 AM
I contacted Miha recently about buying some runovers from another groupbuy and I got the impression the H&G 68s are kind of behind in the queue. Seems like there's a lot going on right now.

Also hi sza, long time since you've been in #tfr ;)

Viagrow
10-10-2011, 11:09 PM
I am also waiting for my invoice. I wonder when the molds will start shipping...

HenryC460
10-14-2011, 07:38 PM
Hi all,

I'll see if I can find some information for you. I know from communicating with Miha that he's usually busy and sometimes I've waited a while to hear back.

Maximumbob54
10-24-2011, 11:39 AM
Is this that time of year when most of the EU takes vacation? If so I bet it's heck getting anything done.

HDS
10-25-2011, 12:26 AM
That's usually in August for the continent (July up here in the nordics). I think.

HenryC460
10-29-2011, 04:34 AM
Hi there,--I still haven't got an invoice yet. Are they being sent out? There was a problem with my order last time.

Wrong email address, right? We figured out that wasn't Miha's doing.

I just wanted to make sure the record's straight about that.

HDS
10-29-2011, 05:15 AM
Wait. Are invoices going out now?

Edit: Ah, an earlier buy, too quick on the post button there...

ecomm123
10-29-2011, 12:08 PM
Ecomm123 ......ecomm711 at maierassociates dot com 452 w/ handles round pins
Ecomm123 ......ecomm711 at maierassociates dot com 452 w/ handles round pins
Miha refereed met this buy. I'd like 2 molds with handles

Tx Ecomm

shooter3gun
10-29-2011, 07:12 PM
mjkpa at comcast dot net 452 round pins w/handles

GregBCE
10-31-2011, 07:18 PM
GregBCE ... GregBCE at verizon dot net .452 w/handles.
I would like 2 molds with handles.

Thanks
GregBCE

HDS
11-01-2011, 01:06 AM

Rick B
11-01-2011, 10:36 PM
PM Miha at MP Molds, he makes extra's. I have purchased several this way in the past.

HDS
11-02-2011, 01:08 AM
Yes so did I. But I had to wait until after the group buy was done and everyone who had signed up got theirs.

I could not sign up on an already closed buy, I mean they close for a reason. It just strikes me as rude to jump in like this after it's been closed. It's another thing to take it to PM with miha...

shooter3gun
11-02-2011, 05:26 AM
It's what Miha told us to do after PM with him. Not to be rude.

HDS
11-02-2011, 09:20 AM
Ooh ok, now I'm on the same page.

hicard
11-08-2011, 06:31 AM
Miha, I have not received my invoice yet. Am I just too anxious? Are invoices out yet? hicardattheskybeamdotcom

HenryC460
11-12-2011, 04:36 AM
I have heard back from Miha (actually, he sent me a PM 4 days ago; he's not the only one who's crazy busy lately) and I can confirm that this buy will be OPENed for a little bit longer. Miha has said we can accept a few more orders. I'll keep track in this thread.

H. C.

HenryC460
11-14-2011, 04:39 PM
I have the list updated, and I'm going to ask the administrators to move this buy back to Active Group Buys, for a short time only, and then it will be moved back to Closed Group Buys, when it closes again.

H. C.

Viagrow
11-16-2011, 10:22 AM
Any idea when we the molds will start shipping?

HenryC460
11-16-2011, 04:21 PM
I know that Triggerhappy's big 45-200 buy is being invoiced and shipped now. That moves this buy up one notch. That's all I know now.

shooter3gun
11-17-2011, 09:33 AM
can I add one more to my order?
shooter3gun.....mjkpa at comcast dot net 452 round pins w/handles

HenryC460
11-19-2011, 06:43 AM
can I add one more to my order?
shooter3gun.....mjkpa at comcast dot net 452 round pins w/handles

You've got it. We're still Active until we close again.

Village Idiot
11-26-2011, 02:46 AM
If its still open put me in for 454 with standard pins

krzin at yahoo dot com

bhardy57
11-26-2011, 07:56 PM
If it's not to late put me in for 452
bhardy991 at fuse dot net

Village Idiot
12-05-2011, 09:31 PM
I am 48 on the list. Appologies got my email wrong. It should be krzin08 at yahoo dot com. Sorry, fairly new email and forgot the 08.

bhardy57
12-07-2011, 12:14 AM
I need to drop off the list. #50 Sorry.
I was able to get one of MiHec's H&G #68 4 Cavity Brass 452 200gr SWC over runs.

Paul105
12-10-2011, 09:37 AM
If this is still open, I'll take one mold .452"

paul {summers} 105 (at) msn \dot\ com

Thanks,

Paul

HenryC460
12-10-2011, 11:33 AM
If this is still open, I'll take one mold .452"

paul {summers} 105 (at) msn \dot\ com

Thanks,

Paul

Hi Paul,

You've now got slot #50. Is the first part of your address all one word (up to the "at" part)?

Paul105
12-10-2011, 02:05 PM
Yes, all one phrase up to the "at".

Thanks,

Paul

dagunnut
12-12-2011, 09:55 AM
Leave my order #31 as listed.

358wcf
12-16-2011, 07:26 PM
Can't believe I almost missed this one!
CV cooks (all one word) at astound dot net

many thanks!
358wcf Chuck

Live2Ride
12-17-2011, 10:41 AM
I would like to be placed on the list, if still open.

dan underscore harben at msn dot com

454 diam.

:cbpour:

Thanks,
Dan

chprplt
12-18-2011, 07:36 AM
I'm number 7 on the list. Please change my order from one (1) mold to two (2) molds. Thank you.

rintinglen
12-18-2011, 09:35 PM
any word yet on when this one will close? I wax anxious.

coloraydo
12-18-2011, 11:11 PM
I would like to get in on this if still open, 0.452 diameter.
vannatta at centurytel dot net

Thanks

Viagrow
12-20-2011, 04:04 PM
Anyone have any pictures of how close the "Mihec Hollow Point (Cramer) Brass 4-Cavity H&G #68 .45" is to the original H&G#68 hear the Mihec is a "perfect" clone, unlike other brands?

Any pictures would be greatly appreciated. Very anxious for this buy to close for production.

Viagrow
12-20-2011, 04:10 PM
Please increase my order to 2 (two) units, same specs as my original order. I hope this moves us a little closer to ending the buy.

DukeInMaine
12-21-2011, 02:16 PM
The number of molds has nothing to do with when they get done, per se. This buy is well past the minimum number to get the mold on the production schedule.

I heard from Miha a couple of weeks ago, and he said that this mold and my 380/makarov mold will both go onto the CNC machine at the same time (same set up, he suggests), and that would be VERY SOON NOW.

I'm almost expecting a CLOSE BUY message from Miha any day.

The difference between the HP and the original H&G68 are obvious. However, when you turn the pins over to make a solid nose with this mold, there will be a slightly different nose transition (not a true curve) from the angle to the face of the bullet. This one will be a bit more of a sharp edge.

HenryC460
12-22-2011, 04:09 PM
Hi all,

I'm also expecting this one to close soon. I'll have the list up to date soon (been busy).

cef
12-22-2011, 06:05 PM
I would like to be placed on the list for one, if still open.
.452 diameter

cnfaber at evertek dot net

Thanks

HDS
12-23-2011, 01:58 AM
The difference between the HP and the original H&G68 are obvious. However, when you turn the pins over to make a solid nose with this mold, there will be a slightly different nose transition (not a true curve) from the angle to the face of the bullet. This one will be a bit more of a sharp edge.

IIRC we will get flat pins with this mold so we won't have to tip the normal pins over, but the nose transition issue will remain. I do not know if that will have any effect on the ballistics and feeding of the bullet?

DukeInMaine
12-23-2011, 05:55 AM
The difference between the TRUE H&G #68 version that Miha made a couple of months ago, and this one are really minor. You wouldn't see any feeding problems at all. If you had the two castings side by side, you'd know which was which.

But if you showed someone one of these solids by itself, they'd likely think it was just a #68.

Of course, those who buy this mold instead of the solid only #68 mold that was run a few months ago, get the ability to also make the HP version of the boolit. Everyone who gets this mold will be delighted.

rintinglen
12-26-2011, 12:04 AM
Having had the solid nose one for months now, I'll really be delighted to get this one. I am getting impatient. I want it now, I want it now, I want it now...It's embarassing for a 58 year old to whine like this.

Maximumbob54
12-27-2011, 05:25 AM
Having had the solid nose one for months now, I'll really be delighted to get this one. I am getting impatient. I want it now, I want it now, I want it now...It's embarassing for a 58 year old to whine like this.

Why, if you never grow old then you will last that much longer and actually enjoy doing so. Just an observation from my perspective.

Besides, I want it too, I want it too!!!

Ozarklongshot
12-27-2011, 09:32 AM
This will be the 3rd MiHec mold I've gotten. Got the other two within the last month. I love them!!! I still can hardly wait for this one. While we're all standing here, I was wondering what are some of the ways you get these new molds past the wife. I mean I have three and I want more...badly!! I just need knew ideas to present on why I have to have more of them:D

Pystis
12-28-2011, 12:45 PM
I'll take one at .452 with handles.

mutalakalkku(at)hotmail dot com

Send pm regarding the shipping.

HenryC460
01-03-2012, 09:52 AM
We're next to be machined. You may have heard this before, but Last Call.

MANGYCOYOTE
01-03-2012, 11:04 AM
OK "last call" maybe I'll be the last one in to buy!
1 mould at .452"
thanks!
deedonc at yahoo dot com

HenryC460
01-04-2012, 03:26 PM
OK "last call" maybe I'll be the last one in to buy!
1 mould at .452"
thanks!
deedonc at yahoo dot com

Indeed you are.

This buy is now closed. If any of you have missed the boat, keep an eye on this thread (which will be moved to the Closed Buy forum probably late this week). Miha always makes some extras, and when he announces they are available, you can grab one then.

Elkins45
01-05-2012, 05:44 PM
Dang it! Missed out by a day! I would love to have one of these in .452 if there are any extras.

mstarling
01-09-2012, 07:31 PM
Oh my! Now I figure out the H&G 68 is definitely worth buying ... and the buy is closed. Rats!

Oh well ...

Mihec's molds really are something else! Superb quality.

rintinglen
01-15-2012, 04:36 AM
Has anybody got an invoice yet? I'm still waiting ( meanwhile pouring pounds of the plain nose ones from my previously purchased 68 H&G plain base).

shooter3gun
01-15-2012, 10:38 AM
no invoice here, yet.

Maximumbob54
01-17-2012, 03:30 AM
I have read several times on other threads that when the buy closes, all that means is that there is a set number of parts to be ordered for the molds. They are usually in need of machining and final assembly still for a few weeks. I would guess we won't see invoices for around a month still.

HenryC460
01-23-2012, 04:34 AM
Miha tells me that he will begin machining these moulds this week.

I'm going to have this thread moved over to "Close Group Buys"

L1A1Rocker
01-25-2012, 10:18 PM
Cool, looking forward to this one, again.

thegreatdane
01-31-2012, 12:46 PM
Oh my! Now I figure out the H&G 68 is definitely worth buying ... and the buy is closed. Rats!

Oh well ...

Mihec's molds really are something else! Superb quality.

Same here.

rintinglen
02-09-2012, 09:07 PM
any word yet? I'm still waiting on an invoice--hope nothing has gone wrong.

MiHec
02-10-2012, 03:22 AM
Any day now.....

I'm machining cavities as we speak

MiHec
02-17-2012, 04:21 AM
Molds are finished. Some pictures will follow.....

Expect first invoices on Monday.

shaggyant
02-18-2012, 02:36 PM
Thanks Miha, I await your invoice.

hicard
02-18-2012, 06:48 PM
No doubt they will be works of art shaggyant.

coaldust
02-18-2012, 08:37 PM
Received my mold today (saturday) and it is a work of art.
This is my first Mihlec mold but it will not be my last.

MiHec
02-19-2012, 09:43 AM
Received my mold today (saturday) and it is a work of art.
This is my first Mihlec mold but it will not be my last.

MiHec
02-19-2012, 09:46 AM
Some pictures of HG#68 Hollow point.
It casts 182 gn unlubed with WW alloy.

First invoices are out!

HDS
02-19-2012, 10:05 AM
Absolutely gorgeous! Got my invoice a few minutes ago.

Cord
02-19-2012, 10:59 AM
Outstanding, looks even better than I hoped!
Got my invoice just now and promptly paid it.
Great job Miha, Thank you!!
.

L1A1Rocker
02-19-2012, 11:09 AM
Great! Eagerly awaiting my invoice.

Valley Forge
02-19-2012, 01:05 PM
Invoice received and paid. Miha, if you have any of the 44 cal 200gr HP left, I'd like to order one please.

shooter3gun
02-19-2012, 01:23 PM
FYI, Just got my invoices.

Elkins45
02-20-2012, 03:34 AM
Got my invoice this morning--can't wait to try this mold!

hicard
02-20-2012, 07:54 AM
I'm third on the list, no invoice yet. Looks great, can't wait. Got my invoice this am. Thanks Miha for another great piece of art. Can't just call it a boolit mould.

coloraydo
02-20-2012, 06:27 PM
Just received my invoice, promptly paid. Looking forward to trying my hand at h/p casting.

Visible Miss
02-20-2012, 07:30 PM
Invoice received, payment sent. And now the wait begins.

MiHec
02-20-2012, 11:40 PM
All invoices are out!

Pystis
02-21-2012, 10:19 PM
Paid.

mold maker
02-22-2012, 11:12 AM
Invoice received and payment sent. Just in time for Spring shooting.

Viagrow
02-25-2012, 11:04 PM

Viagrow
02-25-2012, 11:11 PM
I can't wait for my molds to arrive. Can anybody pass along a good reload recipe they intend to try with these boolits? I have high hopes these boolits will be good shooters...

hicard
02-26-2012, 04:17 AM
I am going to try 7.0 grs of Unique and shoot it into wet sand to test expansion. If they blow apart, I might download a bit until the bullets stay together and mushroom good.

BoolitBill
02-27-2012, 08:23 PM
Well, I got my mold today! It looks beautiful as all of Mihec's molds do. Won't be able to cast for a few weeks though, but I thought I would let you all know that they are arriving. A big thanks to HenryC460 for being the honcho for this buy!

Pystis
02-28-2012, 09:56 AM
I got mine today.
Looks nice, I can't wait getting to cast some!

midnight
02-28-2012, 02:53 PM
I received mine today too. It's going through a few heat cycles now.

Bob

FLYBOY
02-28-2012, 03:55 PM
I still have not received my invoice yet.

hicard
02-28-2012, 06:17 PM
Got mine today, thanks again Miha. Looks beautiful. Got to make some beautiful boolits with it.

shooter3gun
02-29-2012, 06:46 AM
Just received molds. Beautiful work. Thanks Miha

coloraydo
03-01-2012, 11:28 AM
Got mine today. Pure work of art. Almost hate to use it, Buuuuuuut.... I bet I can convince myself to. Thanks, Miha.

Ozarklongshot
03-01-2012, 05:55 PM
:-( Maybe tomorrow:-(

Viagrow
03-01-2012, 05:57 PM
By what method are the molds shipping?

MiHec
03-01-2012, 11:49 PM
By what method are the molds shipping?

By priority post.
Shipping is "sign for". It will be white box 16x12x5 cm with big green sticker on it.

mold maker
03-02-2012, 09:07 AM
I had to go sign for it at the PO. As usual it is a work of art, deserving a framed showcase. But alas it is storming today and I can't cast.
My next open date is next Monday, if I can just wait that long.

Elkins45
03-03-2012, 08:20 AM
Got mine today and it is beautiful. Can't wait to try it out.

Ozarklongshot
03-03-2012, 06:12 PM
Got mine today and it was every bit the beauty I expected and then some!!!

Thanks Miha and Henry!![smilie=w:

Valley Forge
03-04-2012, 10:03 AM
Thanks Miha, Got mine and gonna try 'em today.

Viagrow
03-09-2012, 11:26 AM
I received my Packages. The molds look very nice...........

Thanks.

Elkins45
04-06-2012, 06:50 AM
I finally got the chance to cast a few with my mold yesterday. Other than the fact it is so heavy it is an absolute joy to use. Once it came up to temp the boolets just fell out when I turned the mold over. I can't wait to see how these shoot.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/elkins_pix/Mihec68.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/elkins_pix/can.jpg

MiHec
04-08-2012, 12:12 AM
I still have some of this molds. PM me if you like to have one....

Maximumbob54
04-09-2012, 06:01 AM
Can someone please point me to loading data for these? They seem to seat as deep as a 200gr but mine are all dropping at 186-187gr. But if I use 185gr data then that seems like too much powder.

HDS
04-18-2012, 11:02 AM
Are they dropping at that weight using the hollow point config or the flat point? Just curious since my HP bullets where more like 182 grains and my flat points where 190gr. But I might have used a tin rich alloy at the time. Need to put in some pure lead next time. I was planning to go after the 200gr SWC loads myself.

midnight
04-18-2012, 01:41 PM
My HPs dropped at 184gr +/- 1.0 with my WW with about 8oz tin added to a 20lb pot. I believe Miha got 182gr. Havn't cast any solids yet.

Bob

Maximumbob54
04-18-2012, 03:31 PM
Loaded up the first test run with 5.5gr of Win 231 for some fun this weekend. I did a pound of lead to twenty pounds of lead. I think when the pot goes half empty I'm going to just add lead and see if that does any different. For now here is what I have:

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/Maximumbob54/2012-04-18_18-16-21_939.jpg

HDS
05-08-2012, 10:33 AM
My HPs dropped at 184gr +/- 1.0 with my WW with about 8oz tin added to a 20lb pot. I believe Miha got 182gr. Havn't cast any solids yet.

Bob

I cast some solids last weekend with a very lean alloy (3 parts pure lead 1 part WW) and those solids came to 196-197 grains. With that alloy I had to cast really hot to get any decent results, and I had to wait a good 5-10 seconds before cutting the sprue, waiting another 5 seconds was a good move as well because the bullets needed to wait before dropping easily.

MiHec
05-17-2012, 05:11 AM
I still have some of this molds (as cast diam is .454). PM me if you like to have one....

Forrest r
06-01-2012, 11:48 AM
Mihec I would like to buy one of these molds in .454

forresth at windstream dot net

L1A1Rocker
06-01-2012, 12:55 PM
Mihec I would like to buy one of these molds in .454

forresth at windstream dot net

Shoot Miha a PM on this, he doesn't always watch the older threads.

Forrest r
06-01-2012, 04:15 PM
Thankyou, I shot him a pm yesterday. Must be pretty busy, if I don't here anything I'll try again in a couple of days.

Elkins45
07-24-2012, 03:48 PM
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/elkins_pix/Mihec68.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/elkins_pix/can.jpg

I finally got a chance to shoot some of these yesterday in front of 5.5 grains of Titegroup. 50 rounds made a big ragged hole at 25 yards. Needless to say I am quite satisfied!