Need help identifying .35 bullet

[waksupi]

Hi guys. The bullet below, has proven to be the most accurate in one of my rifles. Problem is, someone sent it to me, and I don't know the designation. .358, weight around 264 gr.
If you know what it is, I would appreciate it. If you have one of these molds for sale, consider it sold. Also have a 250 gr. four hole Saeco, I may consider trading for this mold.

[Marlin Junky]

Looks like RCBS 35-250-SP.

Those molds can be had through Midway on a special order basis. Can you put a caliper on it and spec it for us?

MJ

[waksupi]

Looks like .358 bands, .350 nose, 1.105 OAL.

[waksupi]

Looks like RCBS 35-250-SP.

Those molds can be had through Midway on a special order basis. Can you put a caliper on it and spec it for us?

MJ

Well, just looked it up, and it doesn't appear to be the same animal!

[leftiye]

When you find out, let me know. I want to try it out in my .35 Whelen. Any body got a favorite cast boolit for a .357 maximum?

[357maximum]

. Any body got a favorite cast boolit for a .357 maximum?

Basically any 180 grainer is good..so far


In my experience it is hard to find any boolit from 170 to 200 grains that will NOT shoot well in my encore, when I find the sweet spot.... I have had the best luck so far with the Lee-c-358-180 group buy I ran recently, and the Rcbs 35-180 sillwet boolit...the N.E.I 358-180 swc-gc looks promising also, i have just begun to play with that....I like a stiff charge of H-LilGun, Vhitovouri N-120, or H-4227 the best....remington 7.5 primers also seem to be "thee" primer for my weapon anyhow...

AA1680 works well if you are not after the utmost possible FPS...big fireball in the dusk/dawn hours though....

I trust my hunting loads to 18-20 grains H4227 or a warm load of Vhit N-120

50% wheelweight 50% pure lead waterquenched and aged for a week = 21-22 BHN, and they put deer down...

I would not/have not/will not shoot a boolit lighter than 150 grains through my encore...the heavies work so good and I know they shoot well, and are killers on 140 to 160 pound whitetail...even at 142 paces....why mess with success..

I use a plain based Mountain Molds 180 grainer when I get below 1.6K and it works great also...I have tried to push em harder and have succeeded,,,,,,,,,for quite a few shots,..... then it gets eratic/iffy after 1.7 to 1.8 K

Side note...in case you get too busy to cast...God forbid it....I also have used a bunch of those remington 180 grain JHP bulk J-words...they shoot like a house afire, and are damn accurate if you happen to get behind on your casting...just about any warmish book load works on them...they were one of the dummy rounds I sent when I had my barrel made...look a little too lightly built for hunting, but punch steel and paper well. They are a nightmare to pull with the quinetics puller, the jacket stays and the core comes free...don't make an oops with these if you can help it....


Hope this helps,
Michael

[Pilgrim]

I'm pretty sure I sent those boolits up your way for you to try in your .358. The mould is an RCBS 35-250-SP as noted in an earllier post. That boolit does shoot very well in my BLR .358.

Pilgrim

[waksupi]

I'm pretty sure I sent those boolits up your way for you to try in your .358. The mould is an RCBS 35-250-SP as noted in an earllier post. That boolit does shoot very well in my BLR .358.

Pilgrim


Thanks for the confirmation. I knew there were three of you sent me bullets to try out, but my record keeping leaves, ah, well, something to be desired. I'll try to locate a mold for it, if not, will order one from Midway.

[45 2.1]

It is the RCBS boolit as I have one sitting in front of me from Jim Wisener.

[Marlin Junky]

Well, just looked it up, and it doesn't appear to be the same animal!

Waksupi,

Midway took a picture of the wrong mold. I'm not sure what they took a photo of to depict 35-250-SP, but it sure the heck ain't 35-250-SP.

MJ

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

maybe the one I have, the same bullet in a 200gr version. One of the best 35 Rem or 358 bullets out there.

Rich

[jebb45]

Pilgrim''''''
I want to know what mold that is TOO! I really want one of these molds, so when you get it figured out, get it POSTED here ......ASAP.......
I want one around 250 to 270 grains to be a heavy weight for my 35 Whelen.
Thanks/jebb45

[Shuz]

Ric--Didn't you get one of those 358009 clones from D. Mas?

[Jon K]

Waksupi,

The 200 grain version rich has is available at Graf -$57.19

RCBS MOULD 35-200-FN 2-CAVITY (.358)
Item Number: RCBS82028 · Availability: Only one in stock

Also available at Midsouth -$56.58

RELOADING / LEAD BULLET CASTING / RCBS MOULDS / .358 DIA

RCBS RELOADING PRODUCTS DOUBLE CAVITY MOULD 35CAL .358 DIA 200GR FLAT NOSE

Tried to copy & paste the image, but didn't come thru.

The 250, looks like special order only, unless you nfind a used one.

Jon

[Pilgrim]

That mould has been special order for at least 10 years. Son't get your shorts in a knot yet, but I most likely will sell mine as I've pretty much settled on the 35-200 for my .358. The .35-200 has a larger meplat than the 35-250 and is the better hunting boolit IMHO. The 35-200 comes in at ~213 gr. (ww + 2%) and I can push it to 2400+ with no leading and reasonable accuracy. Last time hunting with it, I smacked a moosey. The critter went from standing to on the ground so fast I didn't see it happen in the scope! If it will put a critter that is notoriously famous for being "shock proof" on the ground that fast, fluke shot or no, I don't think I need a heavier boolit. Pilgrim

[Paul B]

Waksupi: I ordered my #35-250-SP direct from RCBS about four years ago. It cost something like $125.00, give or take including the shipping. That was just as much as the custom David Mos copy of the #3589 mold a group of us special ordered. It does cast a nice boolit though.
While I have some boolits cast up, I haven't shot them yet. As soon as I round up enough cash, I'm having a Ruger #1 in 30-06 rebarreled to .35 Whelen to be my serious hunting rifle using those above mentioned boolits.

Pilgrim: Your .358 Win. load sounds interesting. Might I impose on you for the data? I have that 200 gr. RCBS mold but as in my post to Waksupi, lack of time and wanting to play in way too many projects has kept me from getting started, something which will change after the firt of the year. I will be starting the New Year off right.
Paul B.

[jebb45]

Pilgrim,,,,,,,
If you are serious about letting go of the RCBS 35-250 SPFP, Please keep me in mind. I have been looking for one for about 10-12 years. I tried to get one from Mountain Molds and got put on the back burner 2 years ago. Must have awful busy for my business. Oh well, let me know if you decide to sell that mold, thanks.

jebb45

[snowman]

draw me up a print and i'll try to make ya one over christmas break. i need something to keep me out of the house when the inlaws are over (FOUR DAYS!?! :()....

if ya dont have cad, tell me...i'll draw it up and label it A,B,C,D...you can just tell me the dimensions.

[Pilgrim]

My .358 BLR load (Douglas 22" barrel), is 44 gr. VV N135, Alcan Maxfire primer, bullet cast of WW + 2% 95/5 solder + 10% Magnum shot, air cooled, lubed and GC applied in a .360 sizer, LBT Blue lube, Hornady GC's. This load chronographs 2430 fps out of my rifle, with about 1.5" accuracy @ 100 yds. benchrest (5X scope)

I suspect you can use pretty much any primer. I have some old old Alcans that I use for giggles once in a while and this was one of those "whiles". Since it shot so well at that velocity, I decided not to screw with it as I have another 1500 or so of those left to use up. FWIW...Pilgrim

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Oh yeah, that RCBS 35-250 casts right at 260 gr out of the same alloy noted above after GC & lubing.

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Jebb45 & ? - Anybody interested in that mould send me a PM and I will drop you a note when I put it up for sale. That is likely to happen fairly soon as I need to reduce my inventory of "stuff" and make some cash for other "stuff" that I can use to fill up the space made by selling current "stuff".

[jebb45]

Pilgrim.......
You have a PM enroute to YOU..........Thanks..jebb45

[waksupi]

I didn't get one of the Mos molds, so My heavy is the Bator. Shoots good, but the 35-250 goes into about 3/4". Makes it interesting. The small meplate does concern me for hunting purposes, only field testing would tell me that.
I have one of the 35-200, that I got from Mike Nesbitt some time back. I haven't tried it very much yet. First trials weren't all that great, but I believe I only tried one, powder/one load so far.

[snowman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/jrunyan02/358.jpg

Anybody willing to fill in the letters?

Approximates are OK....mostly just need the width of the gas check and drive bands, as well as the grease groove.

[leftiye]

357 Max, Thanks for the info! Have you done much with 200 grainers? I've got several of them, no 180s. What lube do you like for over 1800 fps? Leftiye

[Pilgrim]

This bullet & my eyes make measurements a bit questionable, but...The following are from a sized boolit. I do not have any unsized. The only dimension that would have been affected by sizing is the band & GC OD's.

A = 0.095
B = 0.094
C = 0.095 (The sides of the lube groove are tapered. This is the bottom.)
D = 0.123
E = 0.336 (Smooth ogive so this is "best guess measurement.)
F = 0.158
G = 0.346 (OD of the GC shank immediately ahead of the GC.)
G' = 0.360 (G' is the OD of the GC. Imagine that! Just like my sizer says it is.)
Overall length = 1.110

I measured each requested dimension multiple times, and the numbers provided are as close as I can come to actual. Alloy is WW + 2% Tin + 10% magnum shot.

That's all folks! Pilgrim

[snowman]

Thanks a bunch Pilgrim...

Now I have a project for next week.

What gun can I shoot this out of? LOL

(it just looked like an interesting mould to make)

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

Snowman,

talk to me about making one cavity moulds...I need about a 725gr WFN for my new wildcat, a 550 Gibbs. It and and I are going to Zimbabwe in early August for Cape Buffalo, Kudu, and Zebra. I would dearly love to hunt with a nice CB at about 2200-2300fps. I am in Nampa, Idaho.

Rich
DRSS
NRA Life Member

[357maximum]

357 Max, Thanks for the info! Have you done much with 200 grainers? I've got several of them, no 180s. What lube do you like for over 1800 fps? Leftiye

180 - 200 grainers have shown no big real world difference in my encore pistol
. I treat my Lee C358-180 (187grains final weight)as j-words, and they simply work,....they plain simply gitRdone. Two decent Michigan bucks fell to them this year...I have been all the way to 2.2K+ with no issues...50%ww/50%PB water quenched.

LUBE.... Lars carnuba red or my own homemade is all I use for the warm stuff..Hard to beat the carnuba red...and the price is great...and Glenn is just a damn nice guy to deal with...and did I mention the price?..

Michael