LAM-II greenhorn

[lastborn]

Would someone please post or email or PM me a picture of a RCBS LAM-II with a die installed ready to lube a boolit. Does the nut that holds the die in only screw in halfway? Is the top punch supposed to travel far enough to make contact with the top of the die nu without a boolit in place?
Thanks

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnVT/Guns/LAMII2.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnVT/Guns/LAMII1.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnVT/Guns/Gooked.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnVT/Guns/Halfloobed.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnVT/Guns/Cleaned.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnVT/Guns/LAMII.jpg

The nut should screw all the way down . . . and yes the top punch without a boolit in the way can touch the top of the die, just barely.

Hope this helps . . . :bigsmyl2:

[lastborn]

All my dies are new Lyman HI dies. They will not seat in this LAM II. Any suggestions please?
I had high hopes of lubing a bunch of boolits this weekend and right now it ain't looking to good.
Thanks

[chboats]

lastborn - when you say that your dies will not seat. Exactly what do you mean? On a couple of mine the nut over the die does not screw all the way down to the bottom. It is maybe an 1/8" up, but that is OK. It acts like the die is too long.

Carl

[lastborn]

Look at picture 4 and 5 above. The die retaining nut screws all the way down to the base. Mine only screws in about half way.
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[Three-Fifty-Seven]

I'm not familiar w/Lyman dies . . . they may be a tad longer than the RCBS dies . . . as long as the die is held centered and firmly in place, it should be fine.

Have you tried to put the die in first just to see how far in it goes?

Then pull it out and insert it into the top threaded portion, and screw it in. The RCBS has a "O"ring at the top this needs to be put into the top piece before screwing it in, otherwise you could ruin the "O" ring, and not keep it centered, may also be what is preventing it to be screwed all the way in . . .

ETA:
I just went and measured one of my dies, just a tad under 1.6"
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnTVT/Guns/SisingDie.jpg

[nouseforaname1246]

on a side note, you dont exactly want it to screw all the way in. the screw shouldn't bottom out against the press because otherwise the bottom of the die will have a small space under it and lube will leak out of the bottom. when i first got my lam2 a few months ago i had this problem because i got a die that was too short( about 15 thousandths) or mabe the press was machined too long?? im not sure.either way i had to create a gasket for the bottom of the die to keep the screw from bottoming out against the press to keep pressure on the die. though halfway out does seem a bit excessive to me.
so as the above post states, measure the die itself to see if it is indeed too long. then make sure you put the die into the screw first then seat it into the press. if you still wont screw all the way down, check for any obstructions in the inside of the screw and the recess where the die sits in the press, could be a large burr preventing it from seating correctly. but then again i could be wrong as I've only been lubesizing for a few months.

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

And one more thought . . . try screwing in the fitting without the sizing die . . . does it go in further?

Mine does not quite screw all the way down as you can see in the pictures, but almost!

[lastborn]

First, the nut will screw all the way with finger pressure. The die measures 1.59 long x .702 diameter. I looked and felt the bevel in the bottom of the press and it looks and feels smooth. The top of the die with the o-ring does not fit snug enough in the die cap to stay in it when you turn it upright to put it in the machine, it falls out. I have a .308 die that fits snug in the cap, but it won't screw all the way down either. Would someone measure the diameter of a RCBS die just above the bevel please? I'm betting it is a couple of thousandths smaller---or--- the LAM-II is out of specs---couple thousandths too small.
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[Three-Fifty-Seven]

Looks like .6988"
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnTVT/Guns/Sizingdie.jpg

The die should fit up inside, and the rubber "O" ring will hold it in against gravity.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnTVT/Guns/Sizer1.jpg

See how the die comes up inside of the nut?
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/ShawnTVT/Guns/Sizer2.jpg

I also noticed that I only have threads on the bottom half of the nut . . . so I figure if they are engaged, that should be fine, strange if yours won't fit uup inside of the nut, seems to be the problem . . .

[lastborn]

My die does fit in the nut, but it is nut a snug fit, it just falls out. t acts like the die is too long, but is because the dies are too lsrge in diameter or because the LAM-II is too small.

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

If you can get the nut threads into the body, I'd add lube, and give it a try . . . there is more pressure used in the down stroke, so the threads are not under stress, the boolit is already sized, by the time you pull it back up, so not as much strength is needed . . . your Lyman dies are .003" bigger/fatter than my RCBS's . . .

[chboats]

lastborn - Compare your Lyman die to the one in Diesel's great photos. The difference is the taper at the bottom of the die. The Lyman dies don't have as large of taper so they don't fit as deep. Some of my Lyman dies seat with the nut 1/8" up from the base. As long as you have enough threads in the base to hold it securely it will work just fine.

Carl

[Three-Fifty-Seven]

So . . . did you get it going?


[smilie=s:

[Wots]

123.DieselBenz

Is it normal to get lube on the bottom of the Boolet when using the LAM?

Thanks

[lastborn]

I think CH hit the nail on the head. The bevel keeps it from going as deep as the RCBS. I think it will work just fine.Had some family matters to attend to so I had to quit messing with it. I need to make some speed green and pour in it and git'er dun. I'm only going to use it to lube with. I like my LEE push thru's to size and gas check with. I know, it's an extra step but I like the LEE's. It's the lubing that I really wanted it for. I want to thank everybody for their input and especially diesel for the great pics he put up.
Thanks everybody.

[prickett]

Would someone please post or email or PM me a picture of a RCBS LAM-II with a die installed ready to lube a boolit. Does the nut that holds the die in only screw in halfway? Is the top punch supposed to travel far enough to make contact with the top of the die nu without a boolit in place?
Thanks

Checkout my post: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=91889

There are pictures of a Lyman die in a LAM2.

[prickett]

123.DieselBenz

Is it normal to get lube on the bottom of the Boolet when using the LAM?

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According to Lyman, Yes. I emailed them that very question.