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JeffinNZ
04-18-2011, 11:20 PM
Team.

Alliant powders have only been imported into NZ in the last 12 - 18 months after a loooong, dry spell. Recently I bought some 2400 as I struck a new batch of H4227/AR2205 that would not play nicely in my .303 Brit.

That 2400 ROCKS. My .303 loves 13.8gr under a 205gr bullet and today, for a hoot, I put the same charge under a ACWW Cruise Missile in the Carcano. 3/4 inch at 55 yards. Still wobbly bottoms but great accuracy.

Can't believe it took me so long to find 2400.

Buckshot
04-19-2011, 02:53 AM
...............Well Jeff me lad, you know what they say about islands? Heck, I don't know either, but living on one I figured you'd know :-) But I agree that 2400 is a GREAT powder! Works in most anything from the 22 Hornet to the 45-70.

...............Buckshot

stubshaft
04-19-2011, 02:57 AM
I am old enough to remember when there were not as many powders as there are today. Was enamoured with 2400 at an early age, and she hasn't let me down yet.

turbo1889
04-19-2011, 03:12 AM
2400 makes a great shotgun powder for all shot, buck, ball, and slug throwers 20ga. or smaller too. Also, love it for almost all long guns that fire handgun rounds (carbines) too especially 9mm carbine loads.

JeffinNZ
04-19-2011, 04:13 AM
Here are some results.

.303 Brit, 100m/110 yards, CBE 313 215, 205gr, 13.8gr 2400. First shot from a cold barrel. Other 4 measure 7/8 inch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/JeffinNZ/Shooting%20stuff/DSCN2421.jpg

6.5 Carcano, 50m/55 yards, Cruise Missile, 178gr, 13.8gr 2400. 5/8 inch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/JeffinNZ/Shooting%20stuff/DSCN2422.jpg

Bret4207
04-19-2011, 06:31 AM
There are no flies on the old standby powders like 2400. They simply work. While there's a place for the "NEW! IMPROVED!!!" powders (I Love Rl22!) you can do just fine with the classics.

Tertle
04-19-2011, 06:59 AM
Looks like my new powder at this rate, i can see the Carcano and Enfield enjoy it and looking at the cast bullet handbook the .308 with the 173gr projectile its on the money. Which is sort of reasuring as i was wondering how it would go in a slighly larger case as the 303 (unpigmyed).

winelover
04-19-2011, 07:17 AM
If me only had one powder to choose from, 2400 would be it.

Winelover

btroj
04-19-2011, 08:02 AM
It is my go to powder for cast in almost any rifle cartridge. I can't remember the last time I used a different powder in most rifle cartridges for anything other than a hot hunting load.

Glad to see you got with the program.

Yes Bret, that Re 22 is awesome.

selmerfan
04-19-2011, 08:16 AM
Just make darned sure that you don't double charge the case....I was loving 2400 yesterday as well in my .30-06, everything MOA or better at 100, until I ran into one case that I had to have double charged. Thank God I survived the experience, but my gun didn't. I'll still use 2400, just make sure that I never place anything but a charged case in the loading block and then seat the boolit. I never thought I needed to follow that advice, I was more careful than that, plus I checked with a flashlight, didn't allow distractions, etc. Well, I screwed up with 2400 with a double charge, please don't do the same!

btroj
04-19-2011, 08:33 AM
That is why I don't use loading blocks. I have a plastic basket of primed cases and a pile of bullets. Pick up case, dump powder, seat bullet. Put down loaded round. Repeat. I find this greatly reduces the chance of double charging.
I too have seen, luckily nit mine, a rifle destroyed by a double charge. A piece of the stock almost hit me from 15 feet away. Double charges are a real danger but then again, any reloading or shooting had an inherent risk.

selmerfan
04-19-2011, 12:44 PM
btroj,
I WILL be changing my reloading practice to this method. It's simply not worth it otherwise.

Doby45
04-19-2011, 01:20 PM
I gotta get me some 2400 for my new Ruger M77 in 06.. Should be great fun!!

Wayne Smith
04-19-2011, 01:42 PM
Ditto on the 2400, I use it quite a bit. I use loading blocks, but take one from the block, add powder, seat bullet, place in plastic box, pick up another from block, etc. Have always done it this way, just seemed to make sense. I recently (last year) got a Bair powder measure and now load pistol cartridges in the block with that, but it's easy to see the powder level in them.

JeffinNZ
04-19-2011, 06:31 PM
I shine a flash light down each case and visually site EVERY load so no double charging.

selmerfan
04-19-2011, 07:47 PM
Jeff, I do (did) that flashlight check with EVERY load as well, and assumed no double charging. That assumption flew past the side of my head yesterday. I will no longer fully trust the flashlight method. Here's why. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=114024

mpmarty
04-20-2011, 01:36 AM
Any load that takes up less than half the case capacity gets single charged and a boolit stuck in its mouth before I put it in the loading block to seat and then crimp. I use sized primed cases and my standard procedure is pick up a case, flare the mouth, dump powder and immediately stick a boolit in the mouth with enough force to keep it there for picking it up and seating later (this is with my 45/70 rounds). Current standard load is 15 gr of Unique and a 380gr boolit.

ihmsakiwi
04-20-2011, 03:53 AM
Hi Jeff,
I too have long wanted to try this powder but as you know a lot of the brands come and go depending on the agent here in NZ so I have tended to go with ADI powders more & more. I am a huge fan of Vitavouhi(?) and use it in some of my pistols. I will grab some 2400 in the near future and try it out. I am pretty impressed with a new to me ADI BM2 in my .223 15" pistol. 2" groups at 200 metres last weekend. Peter.

Boondocker
04-20-2011, 07:11 AM
Selmerfan I am glad you are ok and feel bad for you rifle loss. I double charged a light 45 acp load once , the colt survived but the mag did'nt and to top it off my 16 year old daughter was shooting it at the time. It stung her hand pretty good and after thorough inspection and dad running a few mags ,she was back at it. Now I double check with some pencil marked wooden dowels as gauges when I am single loading, just takes a moment to feel better about it. I make sure I index the Dillon from now on as the double occurred on that in a brain fart moment of not following my routine. I had just bought some 2400 to try in the 30-30 behind the RD's 165 and I hope to get similar group as you did Jeff. Nice shooting! I can kick myself in the rear for selling the couple of SMLE's long ago before I discovered cast. I am going to have to find one in the future and I have an k98 I have to start messing with cast in. I really like those old war clubs.