Savage Edge ??

[Freightman]

Saw one at the Wally World for $258 with scope mounts in .308, didn't look real close but is this a new econo model of Savage to replace the Stevens 200? or just a econo model?

[HollowPoint]

It's one of Savage's entry level rifles.

I've never shot one but, I've heard good things about their accuracy. Other than the factory trigger maybe needing some work and not having the "Barrel Nut" setup that their other rifles have, I should make a good "Starter Rifle."

HollowPoint

[pojv]

Savage has renamed this gun the “Axis” due to a trademark type situation, I believe with McMillan.
I purchase the Axis in 223 this past January after reading many reviews and the rifle matched up to the reviews. It has been very accurate out of the box, the trigger pull is heavy, I have not encountered the stock flex that some have complained about but I use sand bags for rest not a heavy sled. I bought this rifle for a truck/quad gun so that if it received a scratch here or there I would not be upset but still have the accuracy for coyotes when call upon. If you are expecting a high dollar type rifle for that price it is not going to happen, but for an entry level or truck gun it will fit the bill.
I am very pleased with mine.
Phil

[Freightman]

I am happy if it is accurate do not have the budget for expensive guns, just barely have a budget for components.

[pojv]

Freightman,
I understand the budget issue as I had to sell some items to get the $$ for the Axis, I purchased. The one that I got was in camo with the factory mounted scope (my wife calls it the "Forest Fairy Rifle"). What I fail to understand is the individuals that purchase the model complain about the trigger and then go out and spend another 150.00 for a lighter trigger at that point you defeat the purpose of the inexpensive rifle.
My rant
Phil

[Freightman]

I am use to military triggers so I doubt that it is as bad as a Moisin Nagant.

[HollowPoint]

"What I fail to understand is the individuals that purchase the model complain about the trigger and then go out and spend another 150.00 for a lighter trigger at that point you defeat the purpose of the inexpensive rifle.
My rant
Phil"

LOL

Phil: that is rather illogical but some folks actually do just that.

If you visit the Savage forums you can read about financially strained Savage owners scraping the money together to buy an inexpensive Savage model rifle, then they give in to the temptations of buying alot of extra "Bells-N-Whistles" to put on their new budget-rifles.

It's not like I'm poking fun at folks. I've done the same thing myself on occasion.[smilie=b: My only consolation was that the add-ons I added on actually helped increase the performance of the rifle in question.

On the other hand, it took a while before I could actually take it out and shoot it. I'd spent all the alloted money I had set aside for this rifle and I just couldn't afford take it out till I scraped up some more money. :groner:

HollowPoint

[pojv]

I probably should not have thrown stones in a glass house, if I think back to Pre-wife, Pre-kids, Pre-kids in College, I spent money on guns that my father shook his head at but I justified it then.
Freightman please let us know your decision, and yes the trigger does remind me of my Krag.

Phil

[sisiphunter]

I love my Savage Edge in 223. I've never heard of this Axis thing, but then again I wouldnt pay too much attention.

I got mine in 223. i love it. i threw a Tasco mildot 6-24x scope on it. Trigger is heavy, but I am used to the Enfields and Mosins as well, so nice in comparison. Off a bench at 100m and using the bipod and a back sand bag my best group was under .50" on the outside with Hornady 50gr Vmax and Benchmark powder. Cant ask for much more out of a rifle that cost me $400 delivered (Canada prices, they gouge the living **** out of us up here).

My buddy has one in 30-06. Shoots pretty good, not as well as my 223, but not bad, under 1.5" at 100m. Still trying to find the right load for it I guess.

Matt
Matt

[emorris]

I also have an edge in 223. I have a Barski 6x24x50 scope on it. It shoots a little under an inch group rested with my handloads. My only complaint is the magizine.

[Smoke-um if you got-um]

I also have an edge in 223. I have a Barski 6x24x50 scope on it. It shoots a little under an inch group rested with my handloads. My only complaint is the magizine.

Loading those small cartridges in that magazine is a pain in the butt, not to mention the fingers.

Mike

[GabbyM]

If you're looking at a 308Win caliber. The Marlin XS7 has a 1-12" twist barrel as opposed to Savage 1-10" twist. All other variables equal the slower 12 twist is better for launching cast boolits.

For a couple hundred dollars more($555.). A Tikka T3 in either 308 or 30-06 has a 1-11" twist.

[Four Fingers of Death]

As mentioned in one of the first few posts the Edge and the Axis are the same animal, just a name change.

Out here, the Axis sells for about $AU540 and with a scope about $AU590. Triggers cost $AU200. Sort of takes the 'edge' off the bargain (pun intended, lol).

My local gunshop doesn't carry them, but will order them in. He specialises, in Howas, Tikkas, Sakos and Remingtons.

Apart from a graunchy trigger, I haven't heard one single bad report about them.

There is a Camo Marlin 308 in the store. They have a better trigger apparently. The owner of the store got a batch of the Marlins in and they alll sold real quick. Strangely enough, the last one, the 308 has just sat there for about a year now. It has tempted me many times as I have several Marlin lever actions and like the brand.

[Angus]

I have an Edge in 223 and pretty reliably print .75" at 100 yards rested or prone. I don't know how friendly the throat is for cast though. If I were to buy anything bigger than 22 caliber I would but an X7 or Mossy100ATR. They have adjustable triggers and real recoil lugs, the two things that bother me about my Edge.

[Four Fingers of Death]

I have an Edge in 223 and pretty reliably print .75" at 100 yards rested or prone. I don't know how friendly the throat is for cast though. If I were to buy anything bigger than 22 caliber I would but an X7 or Mossy100ATR. They have adjustable triggers and real recoil lugs, the two things that bother me about my Edge.

I think the stock mounted recoil lugs will be a thing we will see more of in the future. Another brand has them now, Tikka or someone.

[gee-gaw]

Tikka has those ( stock mounted ) recoil lugs and they work just fine. An interesting note as we speculate on these relatively inexpensive rifles is, the premiere match .22 rimfire, the Anschultz match 54 has the ( stock mounted ) recoil lug, and has had that system for at least 30 years or so... that's when I got my first one.
Wayne

[Four Fingers of Death]

Savage must be clearing out the Stevens rifle to make way for the Axis (Edge). They are on special here for $AU399, which is a bit cheaper than most rimfires! They only have them in 22/250 (I have 2x 22/250s), 25/06 (don't have on eof these, they are the perfect rifle for Australia, but I don't want to start up another calibre, etc) the final choice is 270 and I have 2x of these also.

I am tempted to try one of these cheapies just to satisfy my curiosity.

Is the trigger adjustable on these Stevens 200s? Apparently not, I just Googled it.

That 308 Marlin would be a better cast boolit gun I'm thinking.

[keyhole]

Is the trigger adjustable on these Stevens 200s? Apparently not, I just Googled it.
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I bought a Stevens 200 last summer. It came as a package deal with 3-9 scope and camo stock. The trigger is adjustable for weight of pull. Cabela's had 3 of them in .308. I picked the one with the best trigger and then lightened the pull weight a little by turning the screw provided. It's no Accu Trigger but it is very satisfactory now.
For $350 I am very happy with it.

[C A Plater]

I bought a used Stevens 200 .243 for use as a donor action and while the trigger did have some adjustment for weight it was not what I would call useful. Making it light made it dangerous so I replaced it with a sharpshooter along with just about everything else except the action but that was the plan and I got it cheap. It is now a .250 Savage with a Bell & Carlson stock and nice 3lb trigger and am happy with the results. The Axis does look very interesting and reports say while it does not have the accu-trigger is was better than the old ones. I've ordered the stainless one in .308 (it's on sale) and am looking giving it a spin.

[Four Fingers of Death]

I reckon if the Edge/Axis rifles were on sale at the local gunshop, I would have weakened and bought one to satisfy my curiosity by now. I like the Marlins, but they are about $80-$90 cheaper then the Remington 700SPS rifles which make the Remington a no brainer choice.

[Three44s]

I buy any Savage 3 screw triggers when they come available and they fit the Savage and Stevens rifles. I don't know about the Edge/Axis line.

The three screw is all a person would ever need for a good trigger on a hunting and working varmint rifle.

For varmint work one needs only to change the trigger spring and this can be done for the price of a SASE if you are a member of the Savage shooters forum. For your investment, you'll get three or four pieces of .041" music wire and then you take a pair of needle nose pliers and make your own new lighter springs.

Anyone owning or contemplating a Savage rifle of any sort owes it to themselves to join there.

A paid membership ($12 annual) allows one to enter all of the forum and that contains the member classifieds which is where I find the three screw triggers. They range around 25 to $30 used and are no longer made by Savage.

I have been cautious about the Edge/Axis rifles as they are a different duck and I am having too much fun with the Savage and Stevens line to enter into murky waters on what fits and what does not!

Three 44s

[GabbyM]

Savage shooters forum is run by a bunch of jerks.

[Three44s]

Savage shooters forum is run by a bunch of jerks.


I have no complaints with them.

Three 44s

[GabbyM]

I have no complaints with them.

Three 44s

They should like you pretty well. Seeing as you advertise for there
One ring scam act.

I’m not saying they are crooks or anything. Just that they are not running an open forum but rather an advertisement for there store front.
Fail to support there ideas , disagree with them in the forum or gee forbid mention another product like the local gun smith with better prices on a McGowen barrel and you’ll get blocked so fast your head will spin. Why do you think no one ever has anything to say on there other than how great those fellows are?

Maybe you have no decent local gunsmith. An all to common affliction.

Get on there and mention ER Shaw will make you a rifle on a Savage action then let us know how that goes after a couple months. Or that you can buy a good rifle to start with for less than parting one together form a Savage donor action.

[Three44s]

What I have seen over there as in any other forum I belong to is that they don't tollerate one member attacking another.


Three 44s

[no34570]

What action does Savage use in the Axis,a 10/110,or is it something else?

Just curious :)
TIA

[Four Fingers of Death]

What action does Savage use in the Axis,a 10/110,or is it something else?

Just curious :)
TIA

New action, etc, similar to the old ones, but set up for more efficient and cheaper production.

[no34570]

New action, etc, similar to the old ones, but set up for more efficient and cheaper production.
Thanks F.F.O.D.
I'm seriously thinking of getting one in .308,I've been quoted for the blue version $495 and for the black stock SS version $575,i think I like the blued version better,a nice matte finish on it ;)

[Four Fingers of Death]

Thanks F.F.O.D.
I'm seriously thinking of getting one in .308,I've been quoted for the blue version $495 and for the black stock SS version $575,i think I like the blued version better,a nice matte finish on it ;)

I know what you mean, I have just bought three Remingtons700SPS rifles as I am standardising my rifles a bit. The matte finish looks better with the black stock. I've gone off stainless a bit (not that I've ver had many SS rifles (Ruger Mini 14 and a M77 Mk2 is the only ones I can think of).

[C A Plater]

I just took delivery of one in .308. Basically it is a 110 action with some mostly cosmetic changes. Instead of the open top it has a right side port and a solid top. The recoil lug is a different arrangement with a slot in the bottom of the receiver and the lug staying with the stock. The trigger is not the accu-trigger but it is better than was on the Stevens 200 line. Not really that adjustable but I was able to clean it up with some careful stoning of the sear and trigger mating surfaces. Still a bit on the heavy side but a very serviceable field trigger. Scope mounting was more of an issue for me than I thought. I ordered a Leupold VX-1 2-7x and it was too short in the tube to fit with standard dovetail type rings. You will need a tube of at least 5.5" to fit or some extension rings. Fortunately I had an old school Burris 6x with plenty of length and the Leupold will find another home. No range time yet but I've never seen a Savage that didn't shoot well. I chose the stainless for weather resistance and intend to paint it camouflage.

[no34570]

I know what you mean, I have just bought three Remingtons700SPS rifles as I am standardising my rifles a bit. The matte finish looks better with the black stock. I've gone off stainless a bit (not that I've ver had many SS rifles (Ruger Mini 14 and a M77 Mk2 is the only ones I can think of).
F.F.O.D.
Love to get a Remington SPS,but funds are low:sad:
I have a Ruger M77 MKII with the (what most people call )ugly skeleton stock in SS in 30/06,but a bloody good rifle.
Stainless is good in real bad wet areas,but I like the Savage Axis matte blue,it won't spook game if the sun hits it and if it does get wet,I usually clean my rifles as soon as I get back to camp or home,so it's not an issue for me ;)
See ya mate

[no34570]

I just took delivery of one in .308. Basically it is a 110 action with some mostly cosmetic changes. Instead of the open top it has a right side port and a solid top. The recoil lug is a different arrangement with a slot in the bottom of the receiver and the lug staying with the stock. The trigger is not the accu-trigger but it is better than was on the Stevens 200 line. Not really that adjustable but I was able to clean it up with some careful stoning of the sear and trigger mating surfaces. Still a bit on the heavy side but a very serviceable field trigger. Scope mounting was more of an issue for me than I thought. I ordered a Leupold VX-1 2-7x and it was too short in the tube to fit with standard dovetail type rings. You will need a tube of at least 5.5" to fit or some extension rings. Fortunately I had an old school Burris 6x with plenty of length and the Leupold will find another home. No range time yet but I've never seen a Savage that didn't shoot well. I chose the stainless for weather resistance and intend to paint it camouflage.
Ohhh,you lucky bugger,that's what I want is a .308,you are making me jealous:p
Don't know if I know what to do in stoning a trigger,maybe get a gunsmith to do that for me,or get a replacement trigger later on.

What mounts does the Axis take?,I mean are they for a Savage 10/110,etc. or just ask for Savage Axis mounts?

When you paint your rifle,will you please post it on the forum,I'd love to see it,please?:smile:

Thanks mate

[C A Plater]

Ohhh,you lucky bugger,that's what I want is a .308,you are making me jealous:p
Don't know if I know what to do in stoning a trigger,maybe get a gunsmith to do that for me,or get a replacement trigger later on.

What mounts does the Axis take?,I mean are they for a Savage 10/110,etc. or just ask for Savage Axis mounts?

When you paint your rifle,will you please post it on the forum,I'd love to see it,please?:smile:

Thanks mate

They mounts are just regular current model Savage mounts. I've ordered Duracoat paints in woodland colors and will do one practice job on a bolt action 12 gauge slug gun first. I'm too cheap to buy stencil kit so the local flora will provide that service. I'll post pictures when I get the Savage done. :drinks:

[zardoz]

Figured I would pipe in here.

I bought one of these at Wal-mart on Friday. The card said Savage Edge, but the actual rifle I got said Savage Axis. From all the reviews and things I've read on these, this was a name change only due to legal reasons.

Well, my collection of long arms, was all semi-auto, lever action, or pump. I even have a few muzzle loaders. But, I realized, I had no bolt actions. Then it further dawned on me, that I had not shot a bolt action in over 40 years, the last time being a 22LR at a boy scout summer camp.

Well, today I took the Savage Axis in .308 (wanted same ammo as my PTR-91) to the range, and I was duely impressed with the rifles accuracy. Now, I'm not some sort of ultra-sniper, and am doing good to even get on the paper at 100 yards. This rifle though, gave me a lot of confidence, and can't say how pleased I was with it today. Even placed three shots in the bullseye, out of five on one target, and that is better than I can shoot, especially with the cheap ammo I was using.

The gun is pure function. No fancy wood, no mile deep gloss finish, no engine turned bolt, no detailed fittings or engraving. Just pure function, and I have to admit I find that attractive in certain guns. The sort of pure function you find in a Glock pistol.

At any rate, for the money, and my intended purposes, this was an incredible deal.

[no34570]

They mounts are just regular current model Savage mounts. I've ordered Duracoat paints in woodland colors and will do one practice job on a bolt action 12 gauge slug gun first. I'm too cheap to buy stencil kit so the local flora will provide that service. I'll post pictures when I get the Savage done. :drinks:
C A Plater

Thanks mate for that,I've thought of getting a rifle done by Ceracote,that can be done here in Australia,seen some nice one's done.
Post pictures when you can mate. ;)

[no34570]

Figured I would pipe in here.

I bought one of these at Wal-mart on Friday. The card said Savage Edge, but the actual rifle I got said Savage Axis. From all the reviews and things I've read on these, this was a name change only due to legal reasons.

Well, my collection of long arms, was all semi-auto, lever action, or pump. I even have a few muzzle loaders. But, I realized, I had no bolt actions. Then it further dawned on me, that I had not shot a bolt action in over 40 years, the last time being a 22LR at a boy scout summer camp.

Well, today I took the Savage Axis in .308 (wanted same ammo as my PTR-91) to the range, and I was duely impressed with the rifles accuracy. Now, I'm not some sort of ultra-sniper, and am doing good to even get on the paper at 100 yards. This rifle though, gave me a lot of confidence, and can't say how pleased I was with it today. Even placed three shots in the bullseye, out of five on one target, and that is better than I can shoot, especially with the cheap ammo I was using.

The gun is pure function. No fancy wood, no mile deep gloss finish, no engine turned bolt, no detailed fittings or engraving. Just pure function, and I have to admit I find that attractive in certain guns. The sort of pure function you find in a Glock pistol.

At any rate, for the money, and my intended purposes, this was an incredible deal.
Zardoz
How did you like the feel of the rifle?,I mean,when I shouldered one the other week,it felt real good and it feels like a long lost coat or t-shirt,comfortable,is what I was trying to say.

What ammo where you using in it? Did you get the Blued version?

[zardoz]

no34570, the gun felt very comfortable to me, but I am 6'2" tall, and have long arms, so the longer stocks always suit me better.

Yes, I got the blued version.

The ammo I was using, was some $15 a box, American Eagle I bought at a local shop.
150 grain. It is reloadable FC brass.

I have cast up a few hundred of the Lee gas-checked 180 grain boolits, and am looking into making some rounds at sub 2000 ft/s velocity loadings to start with. I'm mostly a pistol shooter and loader, so these rifle rounds are really a new area for me to delve into.

My PTR-91 practically destroys brass on ejection, and I kept all my rounds from yesterday, to work with neck sizing only on a batch designated for the Savage. This is new ground for me, as stated above, and always enjoy small success with a new aspect of the hobby.

[Three44s]

I own an HK and though it's not this brand I have an ejection port buffer installed on mine and it makes a big difference on your brass. I have bought HK sights for other projects from the below source and found them to be reputable.

I think the claim that the brass drops at your feet is a bit exagerated ...... the fact is mine does not measurably beat up the cases anymore and that's all I needed.



http://www.robertrtg.com/pofport_carry.html


Three 44s

[no34570]

Hi guys
Well I ordered a Savage Axis rifle in .308 from my dealer(one of them),the blued version.
It's on lay by,but should have it by next month [smilie=w:
I haven't been this excited since I was a kid[smilie=1:
Bring it on!

[donald duck]

I purchased my Savage at Wally World before Christmas and took it to my gunsmith to have a 7MM TCU barrel from Shilen installed on it. Only problem is that Shilen will not have barrel ready until August. Guess they are so busy they wait till they have more orders for same kind of barrel biefore setting up for its production. Mine was a .223 and has never been fires yet!!

[Four Fingers of Death]

I purchased my Savage at Wally World before Christmas and took it to my gunsmith to have a 7MM TCU barrel from Shilen installed on it. Only problem is that Shilen will not have barrel ready until August. Guess they are so busy they wait till they have more orders for same kind of barrel biefore setting up for its production. Mine was a .223 and has never been fires yet!!

You may as well order a spare barrel nut while you are waiting. If you weld the nuts on you will have a nice quick change dual Bbl rifle.

[C A Plater]

The long heat wave broke yesterday and I got some quality range time in. I set up a target stand a 60 yards from my shooting bench to get some rimfire shooting in and to sight in the .308. I was very pleased with the results. After dialing in the scope I managed this 4 shot group with Fiocchi 150 grain factory loads. I did smooth up the trigger-sear interface some but the spring is still stock and heavy. It's only 60 yards but the rifle show real potential. My current range setup goes to 150 yards and time, weather and chores permitting, I want to see what it can really do next weekend.

http://tcbunch.com/kiosk/Savage_target.jpg

[Three44s]

You may as well order a spare barrel nut while you are waiting. If you weld the nuts on you will have a nice quick change dual Bbl rifle.


I assume you mean Loc Tite?

Best regards

Three 44s

[kbstenberg]

FFOD you just made me do a double take!!! Are you serious!!! you can interchange barrels on the Savage Rifles? I realize it wouldn't be like changing a Handi. But you can unscrew one barrel an screw another on. So long as the case basses are the same. 308 - 243 - 7mm/08
Kevin

[Three44s]

Kevin,

You can do a lot more than change barrels! You can also change bolt heads!

I bought a used 110 in 7mm Rem mag and changed it to a bull stainless .25-06 for my first "build".

The second one, I bought a stainless 110 action and made it into a .338-06.

When it comes to Savage rifles or handguns .......... if you own or have access to a receiver wrench and a barrel nut wrench .......... you rule the "roost"!

VIVA Savage

The other day, I handled a Marlin XL7 for the first time!

I may just like it even better ........... though I doubt that it offers the same flexiblity as the Savages do.


Enjoy

Three 44s

[Four Fingers of Death]

The other day, I handled a Marlin XL7 for the first time!
I may just like it even better ........... though I doubt that it offers the same flexiblity as the Savages do.
Three 44s

No reason it couldn't, the barrel is set up pretty much the same as a Savage, I don't know about the bolt heads though.

The Edge is so cheap, you would probably be better off just buying extra rifles if you were happy with the standard calibres.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

they are meant to be a good strait shooting entry level hunting rifle and for that they are great
with the sub minute groups being reported by many of the reviews and a few people i have talked to , i expect they are built to make the best use of fairly standard factory ammo

no idea how cast would work , the plastic clip that holds the magazine in is kind of questionable looking but , at least i wouldn't feel bad about spraying the hole gun with camo paint

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

No reason it couldn't, the barrel is set up pretty much the same as a Savage, I don't know about the bolt heads though.

The Edge is so cheap, you would probably be better off just buying extra rifles if you were happy with the standard calibres.

in the review they put a stevens 200 a savage 110 and a axis bolt next to each other almost identical the face was the same on all 3 as i recall

[no34570]

The long heat wave broke yesterday and I got some quality range time in. I set up a target stand a 60 yards from my shooting bench to get some rimfire shooting in and to sight in the .308. I was very pleased with the results. After dialing in the scope I managed this 4 shot group with Fiocchi 150 grain factory loads. I did smooth up the trigger-sear interface some but the spring is still stock and heavy. It's only 60 yards but the rifle show real potential. My current range setup goes to 150 yards and time, weather and chores permitting, I want to see what it can really do next weekend.

http://tcbunch.com/kiosk/Savage_target.jpg
C A Plater
Wow,that is some very impressive grouping,I can't wait to get mine in .308W:razz:

[no34570]

Hey FFOD
I wrote to the technical editor of Sporting Shooter(An Aussie gun magazine,for all you non aussie types ) ;) You would know who I mean FFOD?
I told him I was going for a Savage Axis/Edge and he knocked it,reckons there are better rifles out there like the Ruger Hawkeye(Now if I could afford it,I would have got it instead)that is why I'm going for a Savage,he said even go for the Marlin Xs7,but phhhhhht to him,I'm going for the Savage,he is so full of dung!!(Can't say the other one for dung,it gets blanked out) :)

[Four Fingers of Death]

Hey FFOD
I wrote to the technical editor of Sporting Shooter(An Aussie gun magazine,for all you non aussie types ) ;) You would know who I mean FFOD?
I told him I was going for a Savage Axis/Edge and he knocked it,reckons there are better rifles out there like the Ruger Hawkeye(Now if I could afford it,I would have got it instead)that is why I'm going for a Savage,he said even go for the Marlin Xs7,but phhhhhht to him,I'm going for the Savage,he is so full of dung!!(Can't say the other one for dung,it gets blanked out) :)

Old Nick doesn't live too far from me. He is a nice guy and a straight shooter. He gave the Edge a good report in a test he did. The only negatives he pointed out were the trigger, some of the cheapness, and also mentioned that the camo pattern was 'not sympatico with the Aussie bush.'

What he was probably saying that the Ruger is a better rifle (it is a lot better finished and probably better all round when it comes down to it, but it is also almost twice as expensive). The Marlins are also good, have a better triigger set up, but are 50% dearer. The Edge/ Axis with an aftermarket trigger would probably still be a tad cheaper than the Marlin. The Marlins have proven to be very accurate in every test I have read about them, but the Axis/Edge were also accurate.

I am fascinated by the Axis, but the local shop doesn't carry them and I generally run Remington 700s for my bolt guns, although the Camo Marlin in 308 that has been languishing at the local gun shop has been calling me in like a siren on the rocks. It would make a nice cast boolit gun, but then, I have many good cast boolit guns.

[no34570]

FFOD
Yeah,you are right,he probably was just saying that the Ruger is a better rifle,I would love a Ruger,but funds are limited and for $495 for a Savage,well???
Even if I did put another trigger on it,it would still be worth it,IMHO
Ruger,Marlin are probably better rifles,but as you say more expensive and if I can get my Savage to shoot like C A Plater's,then I would/will be happy,then if I could afford it,I would go with a Howa??
Nah,mate it's cool,I have always wanted a Savage,I know the magazine release is plastic and a bit dubious,but I'm sure someone will come up with a fix for it.

Go and get yourself that Marlin,you know you want it. ;)

[Four Fingers of Death]

I don't think that plastic bit would be a problem, It is not an acute angle, so there isn't much strain on it, it is big and that allows plenty of flex and reduces pressure on it. Modern plastics/polymers are way better than plastics from yesteryear. People turned their noses up at Glocks when they came out and look at them now.

[bearcove]

A guy in Canada has one in 22-250 shot coyotes this winter -25 degrees the plastic clip held up fine.

I looked at one at the gun shop in 30-06 with a bushnell 3-9 scope. $335 otd. Gonna get it in the morning. Looks like a great deal. If I drop it and ding it up it I won't mind nearly as much as a $3500 rifle. Like nice guns but they make me a little nervous.

[no34570]

I don't think that plastic bit would be a problem, It is not an acute angle, so there isn't much strain on it, it is big and that allows plenty of flex and reduces pressure on it. Modern plastics/polymers are way better than plastics from yesteryear. People turned their noses up at Glocks when they came out and look at them now.
Yeah,I remember when Glocks came out with the "plastic" gun,what did they call it,the toy gun or fantastic plastic????

[no34570]

A guy in Canada has one in 22-250 shot coyotes this winter -25 degrees the plastic clip held up fine.

I looked at one at the gun shop in 30-06 with a bushnell 3-9 scope. $335 otd. Gonna get it in the morning. Looks like a great deal. If I drop it and ding it up it I won't mind nearly as much as a $3500 rifle. Like nice guns but they make me a little nervous.
Thats good to know Bearcove;)
Yeah,a gun is a tool,some are bloody nice tools,but I agree,if I were to drop the Axis/Edge,i would not be a blithering mess,I'd just pick it up,check things were ok and be on my way.
Not like when I dropped my 243AI last hunt,I screamed like a girl;)

[bearcove]

Got my 30-06. If it shoots as good as everyone says they do, I might get a youth one in 7mm-08. When they drop it, no worries, pick it up and go.

[Moonie]

I talked my youngest son into an Edge for his first rifle last year. 30-06, it shoots ok, now just need to get him shooting ok...

[Four Fingers of Death]

I talked my youngest son into an Edge for his first rifle last year. 30-06, it shoots ok, now just need to get him shooting ok...

HaHa! Got to match the operator with the equipment!

Good choice though.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

Yeah,I remember when Glocks came out with the "plastic" gun,what did they call it,the toy gun or fantastic plastic????

combat Tupperware, apparently the guy who came up with that didn't have a mother or wife who liked Tupperware and had 20+year old pieces still working well when glock made their first plastic gun

we now have plastic guns over 20 years old , and still going bang

yes yes 1911's are still going bang 100 years later i am not making that comparison today nor do i wish to.

[Smoke-um if you got-um]

When I bought mine the trigger was worse than any milsurp I own. Googled "Savage Edge/Axis trigger modifications" and found a really easy way to modify it in a safe way. I was very careful to not go overboard with the modification and the trigger is now a decent and manageable 4 lbs. Before the mod it bottomed out the gauge. It feels like a completely different rifle.

Mike

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

I talked my youngest son into an Edge for his first rifle last year. 30-06, it shoots ok, now just need to get him shooting ok...


did you make him a bunch of reduced loads? i don't know how old he is but a friends son borrowed my 30-30 for deer season for several years because he didn't like the recoil of the Stevens 210 in 30-06


does he shoot 22 , as an air rifle and 22 4H youth rifle instructor i can tell you it really carries over , there was a young lady who had never shot high power who one week before the eastern games fired her first high power shot from a 6.5 sweede sniper in 2 rounds she was on paper at 600 yards a week later her and her team mate placed 21 of 47 in the vintage sniper match
you can read about it here.
http://www.odcmp.org/0511/default.asp?page=EASTERNGAMESFEATURE

[bearcove]

Mine is an Axis and the trigger is pretty good. About 4lbs with reasonable creep. Good enough for hunting.

[Atakawow]

When I bought mine the trigger was worse than any milsurp I own. Googled "Savage Edge/Axis trigger modifications" and found a really easy way to modify it in a safe way. I was very careful to not go overboard with the modification and the trigger is now a decent and manageable 4 lbs. Before the mod it bottomed out the gauge. It feels like a completely different rifle.

Mike

THANK YOU!

I did the search function and the guide came up. Very simple mod to do, even for someone like I am :-P.

The trigger now is much better. Still nothing to brag about, but compared to the stock trigger, it is a world of difference.

[Three44s]

Look here for an after market trigger that is said to fit the Edge/Axis series:


http://www.riflebasix.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=181


Three 44s

[Four Fingers of Death]

The Axis rifles are about $AU450 here and the aftermarket triggers are all $AU200!!!!

[Moonie]

did you make him a bunch of reduced loads? i don't know how old he is but a friends son borrowed my 30-30 for deer season for several years because he didn't like the recoil of the Stevens 210 in 30-06


does he shoot 22 , as an air rifle and 22 4H youth rifle instructor i can tell you it really carries over , there was a young lady who had never shot high power who one week before the eastern games fired her first high power shot from a 6.5 sweede sniper in 2 rounds she was on paper at 600 yards a week later her and her team mate placed 21 of 47 in the vintage sniper match
you can read about it here.
http://www.odcmp.org/0511/default.asp?page=EASTERNGAMESFEATURE

I did make him some reduced cast loads, however the son in question is 18, 6'4" 190 of lean mean muscle, reduced loads are not required. And he is my baby boy.

[no34570]

Can someone please help
I have not got my Axis yet,but I want to get another spring for it to reduce the weight of the trigger,what size is the spring I have to get,can someone give me dimensions?
If I get some Wolf springs from the US,I have to apply for a permit for a couple of springs,because they are associated with firearms,what ********!

So anyone know what poundage I need,they are just compression springs,aren't they?
I can't find any in my bloody town,the local hardware has only 3inch one's,sheeeesh. :(

TIA

[Atakawow]

Can someone please help
I have not got my Axis yet,but I want to get another spring for it to reduce the weight of the trigger,what size is the spring I have to get,can someone give me dimensions?
If I get some Wolf springs from the US,I have to apply for a permit for a couple of springs,because they are associated with firearms,what ********!

So anyone know what poundage I need,they are just compression springs,aren't they?
I can't find any in my bloody town,the local hardware has only 3inch one's,sheeeesh. :(

TIA

I use a spring taken from a push pen. Works perfect. Hell, I even snipped off 2-3 coils just to make it lighter.

[Four Fingers of Death]

Take the spring to Blackwoods (engineering suppliers) or the local Bearing supply shop (most bearing shops in Australia also carry a range of engineering supplies. Western Firearms in Beverly Hills also sell a lot of odds and ends and parts and may be able to help. They are on the net.

[no34570]

I use a spring taken from a push pen. Works perfect. Hell, I even snipped off 2-3 coils just to make it lighter.
Yeah?
What any push pen?
Thanks for that,that was easy ;)

[no34570]

Take the spring to Blackwoods (engineering suppliers) or the local Bearing supply shop (most bearing shops in Australia also carry a range of engineering supplies. Western Firearms in Beverly Hills also sell a lot of odds and ends and parts and may be able to help. They are on the net.
F.F.O.D.
I have heard of Blackwoods,the closest bearing supply to me is 155 km's away,one way.
But I'll check em out too;)
Thanks mate.

[Four Fingers of Death]

If a push pen spring works, wait until you get the rifle and try the local pistol club armourer. The Smith and Wesson Revolvers have springs about that size and the club armourer might be able to do something.

You could always shorten the spring a coil at a time. I have always disliked this approach, but if you are careful not to leave sharp bits that will bear and drag or jam on the gun, you will be ok.

[no34570]

If a push pen spring works, wait until you get the rifle and try the local pistol club armourer. The Smith and Wesson Revolvers have springs about that size and the club armourer might be able to do something.

You could always shorten the spring a coil at a time. I have always disliked this approach, but if you are careful not to leave sharp bits that will bear and drag or jam on the gun, you will be ok.
Mate
I'll wait until I get the gun and see how the trigger is first.
I don't like snipping springs,if I can help it,especially if you want to put it back again,you can't once it's snipped.
I'll either go the way of the click pen or just bite the bullet and go to a bearing supplier.If I knew how big it was,what diameter it was and roughly what poundage,I could ring up a few bearing suppliers first.
Anyway???
Cheers[smilie=s:

[Four Fingers of Death]

There is a bearing supplier at Sale in Victoria, strangely enough called Gippsland Bearings. I'd ring up first to see if they actually stock springs, I have found that they normally sell all sorts of useful stuff like that, but it may not be the case with your guy.

The other option may be Jaycar Electronics. They sell electronics supplies and I remember Tandy/Radio Shack when they were around sold little plastic bags with a selection of springs for electronic projects. The push pen idea sounds fascinating.

[no34570]

There is a bearing supplier at Sale in Victoria, strangely enough called Gippsland Bearings. I'd ring up first to see if they actually stock springs, I have found that they normally sell all sorts of useful stuff like that, but it may not be the case with your guy.

The other option may be Jaycar Electronics. They sell electronics supplies and I remember Tandy/Radio Shack when they were around sold little plastic bags with a selection of springs for electronic projects. The push pen idea sounds fascinating.
F.F.O.D.
Sale,is about another 80kms away from the one's I would have gone to,funny enough the one's I would go to are called Bairnsdale Bearings,used to be called Gippsland bearing too.
There is a Jaycar stockist in my town about 50km's away,might try him and see if he can get some springs,thanks mate. ;)

[Atakawow]

Here is a little update:

This is my first outing since tweaking the trigger. My 2nd outing with this rifle since purchased. 5th outing ever firing a high powered rifle.

Best 3-shot group of the day:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/atakawow/SavageAxis1.jpg

A couple less impressive groups:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/atakawow/SavageAxis2.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/atakawow/SavageAxis3.jpg

All groups are sub MOA. So far I am extremely impressed by what this rifle is capable of. For a $200 rifle and a $100 optic, I don't think I can ask for much more. :mrgreen:

[Four Fingers of Death]

You are on a winner there Atakawow! You don't need that sort of accuracy in a hunting rifle, but it sure is nice to have anyway. No matter how much you paid for the rifle, you won't get much better than that.

[no34570]

[smilie=w:Picked up my Axis today,bad news I'm waiting for the scope and mounts to arrive.
Nice rifle,fondle factor of 7 out of 10[smilie=l: