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morme@gte.net
03-29-2011, 01:51 PM
CLOSED!!
Order placed with Lee Monday 7-11-2011

New mould configuration is a 6 cavity 125 grain mould only. I will update people's pledges as I become aware. to PayPal me the funds. Add 3.5% or $64.17 for a 6 cavity.


From the Discussion "rules" here's the skinny

A) The design is pictured below. All moulds will be C277-125R. 125 grain cavities in EVERY mould. The 6 cavity moulds use detachable handles sold separately ($12 ish at MidwayUSA). New members from the 6.8 forum may not be aware of this.

Drawing of the 125gn bullet. (copied from http://www.tmtpages.com/LinkSkyImages/Sketches/lee%20mold%20277125%20128_gr_sketch.gif)

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504d80ff3809f58.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=224)
how it shoots http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/showpost.php?p=1010440&postcount=34

B), C), D) Options available, if any and prices.
No Options. Price is $62 for a 6 cavity, 125gn. this includes shipping (least expensive way)

PayPal me the funds. $64.17 for a 6 cavity to matthew.orme@gmail.com

Per Lee, there is a 6-10 week lead time. When the moulds are completed, Lee will send all of them to me, and I will in turn forward each to you.

E) 25 mould target.
F) Projected end date =

*****1) Accumulating pledges. List starts now. You know the drill. post your "broken up" email address.


OK in front of people that agree with the new 6 cavity 125 grain mould

01. OK Matthew Orme morme at gte dot net
02. OK Matthew Orme morme at gte dot net
03. OK tschmidt30atwirrc@m
04. OK tschmidt30atwirrc@m
05. OK nobade308atmsndotcom
06. OK steve at homewall dot com
07. OK ksJoe68 at gmail
08. OK. hicard at the skybeam dot com
09. OK dntfxr77 @ yahoo . com
10. OK efhaertel at embarqmail
11. OK sixcavitymold at threeleggeddog dot info
12. OK mkstarling at gmail dot com
13. OK Richard at ThompsonMachine dot net
14. OK BBS70 at frontiernet dot net
15. OK PLANNINEatHOTMAILdotCOM
16. OK PLANNINEatHOTMAILdotCOM
17. OK comet1 AT frontiernet DOT net
18. OK sfhaygoodatgmaildot com
19. OK 1DBBEHR AT COX DOT NET
20. cancelled
21. OK jaysanders at q dot com
22. OK jaysanders at q dot com
23. OK sixcavitymold at threeleggeddog dot info
24. OK efhaertel at embarqmail
25. OK mischievous_007_ at hotmail dot com (shaggyant)
26. OK grcunyus at yahoodotcom
27. OK somewhereinca @ comcast.net
28. OK tmjanke at sbcglobal dot net

27 total


*****2) Also in the FIRST post shall be listed the zip codes for payments received.


1,2 - 91307, (me)
3,4 - 53132, 124.00
5 - - 87108, 62.00
6 - - 95032, 62.00
7 - - 67002, 62.00
8 - - 96055, 62.00
9 - - 71203, 62.00
10 - 75158, 62.01
11 - 78748, 62.00
12 - 25071, 62.00
13 - 32346, 35.00 + 27.00 complete
14 - 62009, 62.00
15,16 - 40820, 97.00 + $27.00 complete
17 - 12586, 62.51
18 - 30286, 62.00
19 - 85338, 61.71
20 - cancelled
21 - 59759, 62.00
22 - 59759, 62.00
23 - 78748, 73.20
24 - 75158, 62.00
25 - 83835, 62.01
26 - 76825, 62.01
27 - 95991, 62.01
28 - 89445, 62.00

27 total paid



Please send balances to:
Matthew Orme
6928 Woodlake Ave
West Hills CA 91307


DO NOT MAKE CHECKS PAYABLE TO ME.
They MUST be made payable to Lee Precision Inc.
Checks not made out to Lee will be destroyed.

Those that ordered 2 cavity moulds need to send an additional $27.00 ($28.12 if paying with PayPal)

7.5 to go! Please help us do this thing.


see http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=61052

0verkill
03-30-2011, 04:48 AM
I'd rather see the 125 gr LEE as a group buy, but I'm good with this one as well. 23 more to go.

morme@gte.net
03-30-2011, 05:25 AM
I'd rather see the 125 gr LEE as a group buy, but I'm good with this one as well. 23 more to go.

Please post your email (broken up ala me at x dot y)

I can inquire about having both in 1 mold, or mixing them up (some at 125, some at 110)

timbuck
03-30-2011, 08:12 AM
I am interested in both 110 & 125 grain, but will watch this before I will commit.

ga41
03-30-2011, 10:42 AM
definitely interested, enough to say my 6.8 needs one sfhaygoodatgmaildot com

hicard
03-30-2011, 06:48 PM
Well, I started the light 270 thread so I guess I will have to jump in on a 6 cavity. I don't care if it is the 110 or 125 at this time, just wish it was not a Lee. I have issues with them. Don't like their public relations nor attitude in past buys. Not interested in the double cavity, only the 6 cavity. hicard at the skybeam dot com UpDate Funds sent 5/4/11

morme@gte.net
03-30-2011, 08:18 PM
Lee had an admitted problem with custom moulds right after the election. They were backordered 8-9 months from the huge numbers of custom orders from the rush before Obama banned everything, or so people feared. This opened the window for others to jump in.

stubshaft
04-01-2011, 12:50 AM
I have personal reservations about Lee's quality control as of late. I have had numerous issues with a Bator mould that are not resolved. However, I will commit to one of the 2 cavity moulds with the stipulation that there is no setup fee. In other words at least 25 people will have had to sign up. Prefer a 110gr mold.

Don't mean to be a COB but Lee is becoming a four letter word in my book.

0verkill
04-01-2011, 02:48 AM
If you could get both made it would be great, but I figure getting 25 people to order from LEE may be tough. I must be one of the last people on earth that like their stuff. The only thing I have ever had problems with was a 12 GA slug mould that would not close. Sent it back to LEE and about a week later had one of the smoothest moulds you'll ever see. I just cast with an NOE and it sucked. I reckon they just need a little breaking in from what I've read. Odd that a 20$ mould works out of the box when a 100$ mould takes breaking in.

EMAIL PLANNINEatHOTMAILdotCOM

If you can manage to get both made, put me down for one of each.
If we can only get one weight made, I'd prefer the 125 if there's a vote.
I will take a 110 if that's all we can get.
Either way I'd like 2 cavity moulds.

EDIT You have me listed twice, as my screen name and email.

Moonie
04-04-2011, 11:57 AM
Lee had an admitted problem with custom moulds right after the election. They were backordered 8-9 months from the huge numbers of custom orders from the rush before Obama banned everything, or so people feared. This opened the window for others to jump in.

The bator mold I got was a long time after the election and is completely unusable because of the incorrect specs compared to the drawing.

morme@gte.net
04-04-2011, 05:38 PM
I just heard from Lee. 2 setup fees if we wanted to have both 110 and 125 gn cavaties in the same mould, so this GB will be for the 110gn only.

nanuk
04-04-2011, 06:29 PM
watching

0verkill
04-04-2011, 09:36 PM
I just heard from Lee. 2 setup fees if we wanted to have both 110 and 125 gn cavaties in the same mould, so this GB will be for the 110gn only.

That's what I figured. I'm still in for a 110.

morme@gte.net
04-04-2011, 09:38 PM
I just added a pix of the Lee C277-125R cast bullet to the others I uploaded. They are in 6.8 SPC cases with the COAL set so the bullet is hard into the lands. This is the 125 grain version of the 110 grain I'm attempting to honcho a group buy. I did hear from Lee, and if I understood them right, if ALL the moulds have both 110 and 125 grain cavities, the setup charge is waived for both. I'll call and confirm tomorrow. If this is the case, I will change the group buy to every mould with both 110 and 125 grain cavities. The 6 cavity mould will have 3 of each. Here is the pic http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?p=1207318#post1207318

0verkill
04-08-2011, 01:14 AM
I did hear from Lee, and if I understood them right, if ALL the moulds have both 110 and 125 grain cavities, the setup charge is waived for both. I'll call and confirm tomorrow.

So what's the news?

morme@gte.net
04-08-2011, 12:07 PM
My understanding is that if ALL moulds (25 minimum) are both 110 and 125 grain cavities, there will not be any setup fee. I haven't confirmed that yet. What I was told was that there is a setup for each size, and that 25 moulds waive the setup. I came to the conclusion above.

Would you all prefer 1 cavity 110, and 1 cavity 125?

Since this is targeted to 6.8 SPC rifles, I was thinking of seeing if everyone would prefer just the 125 grain cavity. From my own measurements, 125 seems the perfect size. Anyone with an SPCII chamber can load to 2.260 (mag length), and be .010 off the lands. Cut away the mag like I did for some of my match bullets, and you can load to have the bullet touching the lands when chambered. Since the bore riding length is shorter on the 110gn, it would be loaded with the same amount of bullet in the brass. The bullet would be loaded to 2.170 to be up against the lands when chambered. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showpost.php?p=1207318&postcount=40

A shorter throat like the original SPC chamber would push both back further into the case. Most manufacturers like Stag have recalled their original chamberings and re-chambered them with SPCII. I know many who bought a finish reamer and did it themselves.

A gentleman here has promised to send some 110gn bullets. As soon as I get my Lee type size die from Buckshot (in the mail), I can gas check the 125gn bullets I cast and go shoot them. I intend to use 1gn incremental loads with RL10X. Any better suggestions? I like Viht powders, but they are hard to get these days. RL10X seems to be the next best choice. I don't have any Accurate powders. I never used them for some reason. Probably because my dad (god rest his soul) liked IMR powders. I use Varget for a LOT of loads, but I can't find any load data for 6.8SPC

0verkill
04-09-2011, 08:45 AM
That sounds pretty good. Reloder 10X is a good powder in the 6.8, Ramshot's X-Terminator also performs very well. I bought some Accurate 2230 and Hodgdon 322 to try, but haven't used them yet. I also havn't used any with cast bullets since I have yet to find a mould (but hopefully this thread will change that).

I think Varget is probably too slow for thew 6.8. It being between the 5.56x45 and 7.62x39 it seems to like the faster powders for the former and slower powders for the latter, or at least all the data listed is with powders in those two groups.

felix
04-09-2011, 08:49 AM
Ideally, you want the powder to fill the case and shoot the projectile of choice no more than 2400 fps. ... felix

0verkill
04-16-2011, 01:07 AM
Ideally, you want the powder to fill the case and shoot the projectile of choice no more than 2400 fps. ... felix

The last post was by someone who doesn't have a clue as to what anybody's talking about and was posting for the sake of posting.

We only have 5 people signed up so far, and I don't see it gaining momentum.

Is there at least any news as to whether LEE will cut both weights in the same block.

stubshaft
04-16-2011, 01:59 AM
The last post was by someone who doesn't have a clue as to what anybody's talking about and was posting for the sake of posting.

We only have 5 people signed up so far, and I don't see it gaining momentum.

Is there at least any news as to whether LEE will cut both weights in the same block.

You don't get the Golden Bullet Award by just posting for the sake of posting.

timbuck
04-16-2011, 09:43 AM
I dont know about everyone else, but I am waiting on word if Lee will cut both 110 & 125 grain boolits on one 6 cavity block and setup fee.
If they will I will commit to one six cavity mold.

morme@gte.net
04-16-2011, 03:15 PM
They will if at least 25 moulds have both sizes

I agree, it is not gaining momentum. maybe this will help


I dont know about everyone else, but I am waiting on word if Lee will cut both 110 & 125 grain boolits on one 6 cavity block and setup fee.
If they will I will commit to one six cavity mold.

timbuck
04-16-2011, 06:56 PM
if Lee will cut both 110 & 125 grain boolits on one 6 cavity block and setup fee.

Put me on the list.
tschmidt30atwirrc@m

0verkill
04-18-2011, 02:36 PM
So is everone in agreement for both sizes in the same block?

morme@gte.net
04-18-2011, 04:06 PM
FYI, I have joined the ranks of those disillusioned with Lee. I purchased a NEW C277-125R mould from a shop in Italy. The cavity was cut off center, and bullets will not drop. It is visible to the naked eye, one side is much larger than the other.

Their response was that they would not honor their warranty. They would trade for a 2 cavity current production mould. Since I spent $63 getting the mould from Italy, I was not interested in trading for a $18 (MidwayUSA) mould. They are returning the mould to me.

stubshaft
04-18-2011, 04:55 PM
NO, just interested in the 110.

0verkill
04-19-2011, 04:47 AM
So I guess the buy is officially off.

Ed in North Texas
04-19-2011, 05:38 AM
If we hit 25 I'm in for a 6 cavity. Can't tell if the set-up fee issue has been resolved, all one weight is fine with me (either weight), or 3x3 if that is what most want and there is no set-up fee for the two different sizes. efhaertel at embarqmail dot com

morme@gte.net
04-19-2011, 01:20 PM
The buy (as such) is still on. Dual cavity only. Can't make everyone happy. The original mould was a single cavity, so this will be like buying 2 of the original moulds.

Since we are at 5 out of 25, don't hold your breath. I am surprised how few are interested. I guess that 270 really is an unpopular size.

0verkill
04-21-2011, 01:28 PM
Good that it's still on, I was worried after your trouble with LEE.

I guess only the 6.8 guys are really interested, the 270 Winchester is really too big a cartridge for bullets this light.

ga41
04-21-2011, 04:53 PM
should we post a link over on the 6.8 forum ? :razz:

morme@gte.net
04-21-2011, 07:15 PM
Please do!


should we post a link over on the 6.8 forum ? :razz:

0verkill
04-26-2011, 02:45 AM
Just a bump and check if anyone posted a link on the 6.8 forum.

ga41
04-26-2011, 03:47 PM
yes sir, might also be a good idea to go over to the 6.8 forums and poke around

Nobade
04-26-2011, 05:22 PM
This would work well in my 270 Hornet. nobade308atmsndotcom.

timbuck
04-26-2011, 10:03 PM
http://68forums.com/forums/showthread.php?20445-6.8-SPC-.277cal-110gn-125gn-RN-Duplex-Lee-Mould-Group-Buy

Here is one

mstarling
04-28-2011, 10:10 AM
In for a 6 cavity mold.

mstarling mkstarling at gmail dot com

how are going to accept payment? Any estimate of when?

Overton-AR
04-28-2011, 10:36 AM
OK, I joined here after seeing the link you put on 6.8 forums. You have my name no the list, but be sure that I am down for a 6 cavity mold. I have no interest in casting them one at a time. LOL

brd556 at gmail dot com

morme@gte.net
04-28-2011, 10:54 AM
6.8 forums just closed my thread, and gave me an "infraction" for an unauthorized group buy. It seems that I have to post 50 messages, and then discuss the "possibility" of a group buy with them first.

I thought it was ridiculous, since the group buy is here, and the post was informing the users about the group buy here.

I won't ask for $$ until we reach the 25 needed to get the setup fees waived. Watch the thread.

ga41
04-28-2011, 12:14 PM
...I'll probably go over there and find myself banned over it.... as i just posted it and didn't ask for permission.

After checking , the mod was very nice about it and it appears we may have picked up a few and the thread was only locked, not deleted, good for 6.8, Everyone should be on both forums :)

shooter_gregg
04-28-2011, 01:28 PM
I am interested in a 6 mold. I prefer the 110, but would take a dual profile mold.
I came over from the 68forum. It is a really good forum for info and the latest news.

This place has better smilies though.:bigsmyl2:

grcunyus at yahoodotcom

dntfxr
04-28-2011, 06:33 PM
Yep I joined up here too from 68forums, lookin forward to makin my own slugs!

0verkill
04-29-2011, 12:22 AM
Great to see the 6.8forum links worked, despite some "controversey". Only 10 more to go.
Give me a 2 cavity and six cavity if possible, give us 9 more to go.

morme@gte.net
04-29-2011, 07:44 PM
I am going to start collecting checks. See post 1 (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showpost.php?p=1216852&postcount=1) for the info. Please make them payable to Lee Precision Inc., NOT TO ME. I plan to buy at least 6 2 cavity moulds for sale on eBay and Gunbroker. Anyone else wanting to do this is welcome. LOTS more people go to those places than they do here, and I hope I won't loose any $$.

Anyone that orders five 2 cavity moulds will get 6. Can't do the same for the 6 cavity moulds. Six 2 cavity moulds won't cost a lot more to ship than 1 (I hope)

timbuck
04-30-2011, 12:58 PM
6 cavity (thought I would get 2)

this is for a total of 2 six cavity molds.
I will send the check on monday, 02apr2011
124$

Steve T
05-02-2011, 10:45 PM
ADD:

18. steve at homewall dot com from 6.8 forums 6 cavity

Thanks. I was hoping we'd get to a cast bullet solution.

Steve T.

morme@gte.net
05-02-2011, 10:52 PM
Just a few more ! I think we may actually make it

Spread the word at 6.8 where you can

thanks

Matthew
ADD:

18. steve at homewall dot com from 6.8 forums 6 cavity

Thanks. I was hoping we'd get to a cast bullet solution.

Steve T.

1dbbehr
05-03-2011, 07:42 AM
Put me down for a 6 Cavity Mold.

1DBBEHR AT COX DOT NET

THANKS

dntfxr
05-03-2011, 05:21 PM
Check is in the mail.
I'm pretty much a newb to casting, can someone direct me where to start reading or make suggestions on equipment and proven techniques?
Thanks

waksupi
05-03-2011, 05:45 PM
Check is in the mail.
I'm pretty much a newb to casting, can someone direct me where to start reading or make suggestions on equipment and proven techniques?
Thanks


Go to the "Classics and Stickies" part of the forum. 99% of your questions are answered there.

Welcome aboard.

dntfxr
05-03-2011, 05:54 PM
Thanks waksupi, I'll head that way. I'm just thinking though, I'll probably need some .44 molds and 6.5, and.... This could get fun! :)

panaceabeachbum
05-05-2011, 09:11 PM
I will take one of the 2 cavity molds if the GB is still open

morme@gte.net
05-05-2011, 10:15 PM
You are the hump order. Everything else helps, but the order is not dependent on additional people. I am going to hold it open till June for 6 cavity, and then place the order after all the checks are in. There will be 5 extra 2 cavity moulds that will be available. What is your "broken email? Send a check ASAP.

M


I will take one of the 2 cavity molds if the GB is still open

morme@gte.net
05-06-2011, 05:17 PM
Posting (post 1) (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=111670) the zip codes of the checks I have received, and the amounts. Keep em coming.



http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504dc48f81a5254.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=789)

panaceabeachbum
05-06-2011, 06:46 PM
You are the hump order. Everything else helps, but the order is not dependent on additional people. I am going to hold it open till June for 6 cavity, and then place the order after all the checks are in. There will be 5 extra 2 cavity moulds that will be available. What is your "broken email? Send a check ASAP.

M

Pm inbound

mtnwinds
05-08-2011, 07:16 AM
I'll take a 6 cavity mold.

mtnwinds at yahoo dot com (from 6.8 forums 6 cavity)

morme@gte.net
05-08-2011, 11:14 AM
Just a nudge. 10 out of 21 checks received.

bbs70
05-09-2011, 07:29 PM
Put me down for a 6 cavity.
BBS70 at frontiernet dot net.
I'll send check Wed.

morme@gte.net
05-09-2011, 08:40 PM
Put me down for a 6 cavity.
BBS70 at frontiernet dot net.
I'll send check Wed.

got it. We just might make the original target of 25 (the order will be placed if everyone who signed up sends in their payment if we don't get to 25. I will make up the difference, along with another volunteer who offered to pick up an additional 2 two cavity moulds if the order is short)

As soon as all the checks are in, I'll make the order (After June 1). So you lazy-heads (term of endearment my dad used to use), get off your duffs and mail in your payments!

so far
17 6 cavity
5 2 cavity

11 payments received.

morme@gte.net
05-09-2011, 09:31 PM
I made a LOT of edits to post 1. It brings the GB info up to date.

0verkill
05-11-2011, 10:46 AM
got it. We just might make the original target of 25 (the order will be placed if everyone who signed up sends in their payment if we don't get to 25. I will make up the difference, along with another volunteer who offered to pick up an additional 2 two cavity moulds if the order is short)

As soon as all the checks are in, I'll make the order (After June 1). So you lazy-heads (term of endearment my dad used to use), get off your duffs and mail in your payments!

so far
17 6 cavity
5 2 cavity

11 payments received.

I'm one of them "lazyheads", I just got my payment in the mail yesterday.

ga41
05-11-2011, 06:27 PM
Lazyhead reporting sir,will semd a check this week,may want to change to 6 cavity, that ok ?

morme@gte.net
05-11-2011, 06:36 PM
Send a check for whatever you want. Include the email address you gave me, so I don't have to dig it up. It is how I keep track of pledges vs pymts

m


Lazyhead reporting sir,will semd a check this week,may want to change to 6 cavity, that ok ?

morme@gte.net
05-12-2011, 06:26 PM
8 checks to go

15bobcat
05-14-2011, 03:54 PM
Please add me to the list for a 2 Cavity. Money order to go out Monday (May 16).
comet1 AT frontiernet DOT net

morme@gte.net
05-14-2011, 04:02 PM
6 payments outstanding

morme@gte.net
05-14-2011, 04:24 PM
done.


Please add me to the list for a 2 Cavity. Money order to go out Monday (May 16).
comet1 AT frontiernet DOT net

morme@gte.net
05-18-2011, 05:25 PM
One fella bailed on the GB, which complicates things a bit for me, since I'll have to pick up the slack. It will reduce the GB cost a bit, since he wanted a 6 cavity and I'll buy a 2 cavity to make up the 25. If anyone else plans on bailing, please let me know. As soon as the outstanding 4 checks come in, I'll make the order

morme@gte.net
05-18-2011, 08:10 PM
Another one bites the dust.

morme@gte.net
05-19-2011, 09:30 PM
Please make the last couple checks out to me.

I will be closing the group buy on June 1. Any 6 cavity mould orders that I have not received payment for will be cancelled, and the balance of the 25 mould order will be 2 cavity moulds. This is to reduce my out of pocket costs.

I just updated my spreadsheet, and I forgot that the price includes shipping. If all the checks are made to Lee, they get the $$ reserved for shipping costs. This means I would have to order enough moulds to cover the total of the checks, and pay the shipping to all you guys out of pocket, and recover the shipping fees by selling the extra moulds.

If you don't mind, please make the remaining checks out to me to make it less of a PIA

Thanks

Matthew Orme
6928 Woodlake Ave
West Hills CA 91307

805-637-1917

morme@gte.net
05-25-2011, 10:19 AM
many changes to post 1. You might want to read it. Some updated info on lead time etc.

BRP
05-25-2011, 11:43 AM
Just dropped off a check at the Post Office, Priority Mail, for Two, 6 cavity moulds.

BTW. "jaysanders at q dot com".

Thanks.

morme@gte.net
05-25-2011, 10:43 PM
Just got back from the range. I shot all the bullets previously listed.

Quick conclusion
Lee C277-125R with 23 grains RL 10X was by far the best performer. Next was either the Lee C285-130R sized to 278 with the same load, or the RCBS 27-130-FN also with 23 grains RL10X.

The Lee 7mm Soup Can was the worst. I could only hit the 12" steel plate 75% of the time at 100 yards. I would say it had 12" or larger groups. Neither of the old Lyman bullets did well (with RL10X), either the 280473 or the 280468.

Here are pix of the targets I took with my cell. Note, my reference shots was a 3 shot group of factory SSA 100gn SP (Nosler white tip) bullets. The target shows my first 3 (cold bore) shots. Rings are 1/2 inch apart.

SSA Refererencehttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504ddde41121822.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=965)


C277-125R 100 yds 23gns RL10Xhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504ddde432d65fe.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=966)


Lyman 280473 100 yds 23gn RL10Xhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504ddde479e9485.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=967)


RCBS 27-130-FN 100 yds 23gn RL10Xhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504ddde4acb20cc.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=968)


RCBS 27-130-FN 50yds 21.5gn RL10Xhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504ddde4d4b0ef5.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=969)


C277-125R 50 yds 23gn RL10Xhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504ddde50fc8abb.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=970)


RCBS 27-130-FN 100 yds 23gn RL10Xhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504ddde56ca6067.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=971)

mstarling
05-26-2011, 08:36 AM
Guys,

What is the appropriate top punch for the bullets cast by this mold? Lyman and RCBS are compatible with sizers from both companies.

Thanks!

Mike

morme@gte.net
05-26-2011, 08:58 AM
Not a clue. I used a lee type sizer (made by a gentleman here) to install gas checks, and alox lube. I lubed some in carnuba red but I rub it in like a crayon and then push it through.

I made a custom seating stem for my hornady seating die by spraying the inside wit mould release and then filling it with jb kwik and using the bullet to form the epoxy to the right shape. I think this could be done for any .277 round nose top punch you might have. The epoxy can come out later.

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Guys,

What is the appropriate top punch for the bullets cast by this mold? Lyman and RCBS are compatible with sizers from both companies.

Thanks!

Mike

morme@gte.net
05-27-2011, 03:51 PM
Closed. (with drop dead date of 5/29/2011 if funds sent via PayPal.) See post 1

0verkill
05-28-2011, 02:04 AM
I like those groups, what is that about 2 1/2 inches on the 100 yard LEE 125?

morme@gte.net
05-28-2011, 11:30 AM
I like those groups, what is that about 2 1/2 inches on the 100 yard LEE 125?

Not sure which one you mean. If the Lyman 280473 100 yds 23gn RL10X, I don't really know. the only 7mm bullet re-sized to .278 that seemed to work well was the

C285-130-1R 50 yd 24 RL 10x.jpg http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504de13d5f3d2af.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=997)

Lyman 280468 50 yd 24 10X.jpg http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504de13daeb6033.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=998)

I am going to repeat the tests with only the C277-125R and C285-1301R (resized to .278). The bullets look so much alike that I want to be sure of my results. Shots 4-5-6 on the second target in post 73 were labeled with a sharpie on the brass so I know there was no mistake. The 130gn Lee 7mm seemed to like a heavier load.


for 100 yds, I might have well shown a blank target for the 7mm soupcan.

7mm Soupcan sized 278 50yd 22 10x.jpg http://castboolits.gunloads.com/imagehosting/thum_109504de13df13dd6d.jpg (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=999)

dntfxr
05-28-2011, 09:26 PM
I like those groups, what is that about 2 1/2 inches on the 100 yard LEE 125?
Judging from the size of the bullet holes, the 100yd LEE group looks closer to 1 1/4" or so. Not too shabby!

ksJoe
06-04-2011, 11:41 AM
now that the order is in, did Lee give you an estimated time frame?

morme@gte.net
06-04-2011, 12:10 PM
Order in. see post 1 for time frame. I notice my check has not been cashed by Lee yet.

BRP
06-23-2011, 12:55 PM
Gentlemen, a problem with our Group Buy has arisen. I have been in contact with both Lee Precision and Mr. Orme. Mr. Orme has graciously allowed me to contact everyone and lay out the details of what is happening with our Buy. I will be sending out an email to all those who placed orders to make sure they know about this development. My email address is "jaysanders@q.com". I spoke with Mr. Orme earlier today about these current developments, and because he is very busy, has allowed me to direct our Buy going forward.

Basically here is the problem: After receiving the orders and calculating costs, Lee has determined that it will be cost prohibitive to produce what we have requested. From their standpoint it is too complicated. They cannot put two different profiles in the same mould block, and do it in two different block (2 and 6 cavity) types. Again, this is from their production cost standpoint.

However, I have convinced the Lee Production Manager to fulfill our Group Buy Order provided that we can all agree to make some compromises and simplify our order. Outlined below are the decisions that we must make.

BTW, Lee has assured me that they have not cashed anyone’s check yet.

First, we must agree upon only one bullet weight. In my discussions with Mr. Orme, as well as my experience with the 6.8 SPC cartridge, I suggest that we agree on the 125 grain profile. The bullet will provide sufficient weight to allow it to fit into a velocity window that is very agreeable to most good cast bullet alloys. Additionally, Mr. Orme’s range testing of this bullet weight has proven that it is very accurate.

Second, we must agree on either the 2 or 6 cavity block. Based solely upon the order listing, the 6 cavity is by far the most ordered, so I suggest we all stick with that block. I believe that, according to the order list, 3 to 4 men ordered the 2 cavity block, so we will have to see if those gentlemen will agree to change their order to a 6 cavity.

It is my hope that we can all agree on these compromises so that we will soon have moulds “in hand”. It would be awesome to have a great 6.8 bullet mould that is range proven. A thread discussion is welcome, but I would very much like to make our decision ASAP. I would like to request that the individuals that placed orders contact me either in this thread, or by email (jaysanders@q.com) to let me know if you agree to these new parameters.

It would have been better to find all this out much earlier but, unfortunately, we’re confronted with it and must make some decisions. Hopefully we can agree to this compromise and will soon be out casting and shooting.

Proposal: All orders will be for a 125 grain bullet in a 6 cavity mould block. I’ll cross my fingers! Let me know.

dntfxr
06-23-2011, 01:41 PM
I vote 125g six cavity. I wouldn't have used the 110 anyway for a cast boolit. The 125 will do better at cast velocity I think.

BRP
06-23-2011, 01:44 PM
Something I forgot to mention. If any of you wanted to get in on the Group Buy and missed the deadline, you've got another opportunity to get on the list. If anyone does, let me know as soon as possible. I won't put a deadline on our decision right now. It will probably take a bit for everyone to decide. But I would like to finalize our decision soon.

Thank you in advance for everyone's patience.

ga41
06-23-2011, 01:48 PM
125gr. 6 cavity sounds good

BRP
06-23-2011, 01:50 PM
Thanks dntfxr.

That's 4 in favor so far! 14 to go.

Just got off the phone with Lee Precision. They're game if we are!

bbs70
06-23-2011, 01:50 PM
I ordered a 6 cavity mold.
It would be great to have all 6 cav for the same boolit weight.
So, I vote yes, go for it.

BRP
06-23-2011, 01:56 PM
Please pardon my lack of familiarity with everyone. In everyone's response, please type out the first part of your email address. That'll help me keep track of everyone.

Thanks again for everyone's patience!

ga41
06-23-2011, 01:59 PM
Sfhaygood ....

BRP
06-23-2011, 02:13 PM
That's 6 in favor. Goin' Good!

Thanks GA41...

0verkill
06-23-2011, 02:16 PM
I ordered 2, a double cavity and a 6 cavity. I'm all for the 125gr, but would I need to send in a check to make up the difference on the 2 cavity, or could I get the extra paid for the 2 cavity refunded?

PLANNINE (AT) HOTMAIL *dot* COM

mstarling
06-23-2011, 02:52 PM
I would, in fact, prefer the 6 cavity all in the 125 gr design! So you have another agreement. ;-)

BRP
06-23-2011, 03:07 PM
Hey OverKill.

You could indeed get refunded for the 2 cavity mould. If you wanted to change the 2 cavity to a 6, a check for the difference would be needed. I hoped not to lose any orders, but let me know what you decide.

This does brings up an excellent point.

The Original Honcho, Mr. Orme, originally lacked the 25 total required to waive the setup charge from Lee. I think we missed it by a few and some people even bowed out after their original pledge. As a result, Mr. Orme was going to get hit with a not inconsequential cost for not getting the 25 moulds needed. He was going to go ahead and order the 25 and then, hopefully, he could sell the "overage" afterwards. He was willing to go to all that trouble, and cost, so that we could all get our moulds.

No one will lose their money in this deal no matter what. But if we lose many orders, it could prove problematic to continue with the Group Buy. No decisions have been made at this point. I wanted to see how receptive everyone would be to the new situation we're in. As of this morning, no one was going to get anything but I just didn't want that to happen.

For those guys who ordered a 2 cavity that would like to change it to a 6, just let me know, but hold off on sending in a check as of now. We’ll have to see how receptive everyone else is. If we can get a consensus on the Order, then I’ll let everyone know where, when and how to send in the extra checks.

Excellent Point. Glad it got brought up early.

BRP
06-23-2011, 03:08 PM
Got it mstarling. Thanks.

mstarling
06-23-2011, 03:39 PM
Regardless of the final outcome of this endeavor, I would like to thank Mr. Orme for his energies and BRP for his followup efforts!

Mike

BRP
06-23-2011, 03:48 PM
You are very welcome Mike.

I'm really hoping we can all come to an agreement. My Patriot Ordinance Factory piston 6.8 is Aching for a good cast bullet!

Nobade
06-23-2011, 05:23 PM
I'm good with the 6 cav 125 myself.

BRP
06-23-2011, 06:19 PM
Thanks Nobade.

I think we're up to 8 people in just a few hours. It's looking good so far.

Everyone pass the word if you can.

morme@gte.net
06-23-2011, 06:26 PM
I just opened the letter from Lee that came in the mail today. It's sad that I had to learn of their changing their mind from Mr Saunders.

People that ordered both 2 and 6 cavity molds are really encouraged to upgrade the 2 cavity to 6, and not just drop the 2 cavity. For every 2 cavity that is just dropped, we have to find someone else willing to buy a 6 cavity. I actually ordered 1 six cavity and 4 two cavity moulds to make up the total order to 25 moulds. I cannot afford 6 six cavity moulds. \\

Lee returned all the checks. I refunded the solo PayPal payment just because of the time limit to make refunds. I am sure the gentleman will step up again should the order be resubmitted.

Again, I apologize for the trouble. My emails with Lee were pretty specific about what we wanted. They say they made a mistake ok-ing the mix.

We will keep plugging away for a moment, but we need everyone on board the 125gn 6 cavity mould PLUS 4 additional orders

Matthew Orme

Ed in North Texas
06-23-2011, 06:45 PM
I ordered a 6 cavity and I'd prefer all 125 grain. efhaertel

bbs70
06-23-2011, 06:49 PM
Don't want to hijack the thread, so I started a new thread here.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?p=1312939#post1312939

I would like info on powder type and powder weight for this boolit we are getting.

morme@gte.net
06-23-2011, 08:14 PM
Hey guys, Check Post 1. I am updating the list with the new pledges. Let me know If I got it wrong, and PLEASE post your email as in post 1 again so I can tell who is who. Thanks

Matthew

dntfxr
06-23-2011, 08:25 PM
Dntfxr77 @ yahoo dot com, I'm good with the changes.

Steve T
06-23-2011, 09:04 PM
steve at homewall dot com.

I am fine with the 125 gn mold. As long as I have something for my 6.8 I'll be happy.

Lets keep it simple. \

Steve T

timbuck
06-23-2011, 09:05 PM
I'm ok with the changes. x2 molds.
tschmidt30atwidotrrdotcom

BRP
06-23-2011, 09:39 PM
I have down everyone that has posted a thread, as well as those who sent PM's and direct emails to me.

Things seem to be moving along in a very positive direction so far.

Of the original 22 moulds listed for people, I have a definite 15 in agreement, and possibly 17. We are very close...and it's only been 1/2 a day!

Thank you to everyone who has posted responses so quickly. It really helps.

mstarling
06-24-2011, 09:01 AM
Am #12 ... mkstarling at gmail.com 25071

Am fine with the change.

Thank you!

Mike

panaceabeachbum
06-24-2011, 11:39 AM
I am fine with the change, will forward additional funds since I was in for the 2 cav mold

BRP
06-24-2011, 11:59 AM
Gentlemen,

Let me once again Thank everyone whose has responded and is helping to move our Group Buy forward.

I have just had a lengthy conversation with Mr. Matthew Orme. Everyone is in agreement on how we are proceeding and still hope to hear from those last people who have yet to check in.

One thing will change going forward. Since Mr. Orme is still in contact with Lee Precision, is very familiar with all of your orders, and has all the check payments in hand, it only makes sense to have him take things over from here forward. All additional comments, questions, confirmations or orders should be addressed to him. Also forward any additional payments to Mr. Orme. I have forwarded him all the correspondence that was sent to me so he has everything as of right now.

Three things Mr. Orme wanted me to stress is…

Always Check the Listing on Post #1 to Ensure the Status of Your Order!
Always Post a Thread if You Would Like to Communicate Your Participation!
Always Include Your Email Address in Your Thread!

This helps Mr. Orme officially keep track of each individual’s order. Again, he has everyone’s confirmation as of right now.

I hope my participation in our Group Buy since yesterday hasn’t confused too many people. When I found out about the status of our order I wanted to try and do what I could to still “Make It Happen”. I personally appreciate everyone’s patience. Thanks again.

J. Sanders

BRP
06-24-2011, 12:03 PM
PANACEABEACHBUM,

Thanks for your response and help with our effort. You might read my post above to get completely updated. Just got off the phone with Mr. Orme.

It would help Mr. Orme out if you post a thread with your email address. Be sure and forward your additional payment to him.

Thanks again.

J. Sanders

panaceabeachbum
06-26-2011, 04:59 PM
Do I read correctly that the 2 cavity option is bieng dropped and I need to forward additional funds to make up the difference for the 6 cavity?

morme@gte.net
06-26-2011, 05:43 PM
Yes, that is what the Group Buy has been changed to. Lee changed their minds about splitting mould sizes and cavity sized. The ony mould now offered in the GB is a 6 cavity 125grain mould


Do I read correctly that the 2 cavity option is bieng dropped and I need to forward additional funds to make up the difference for the 6 cavity?

panaceabeachbum
06-27-2011, 06:58 PM
Thanks , I am 13 on your list, RICHARD at THOMPSONMACHINE dot NET Could you pm me your address again and I will forward the additional $27 . Thanks Richard

morme@gte.net
06-27-2011, 07:32 PM
For others

Matthew Orme
6928 Woodlake Ave
West Hills CA 91307

I'll add it to post 1

thanks

Matthew


Thanks , I am 13 on your list, RICHARD at THOMPSONMACHINE dot NET Could you pm me your address again and I will forward the additional $27 . Thanks Richard

hicard
06-29-2011, 11:52 AM
I am #8 on the list and approve the changes. hicard at the skybeam dot com

nanuk
06-29-2011, 01:46 PM
too bad the nose is a bit narrow, or it would work in a 270Win.

wish I could help to make the #25, but I don't have a use for this one.

sorry guys

BRP
06-29-2011, 02:41 PM
Thanks for giving it a second look. We appreciate it.

'Course...Donations are always appreciated!

Just Kidding...

BRP

morme@gte.net
06-29-2011, 02:59 PM
The 270 was the original target for this mould. It was the rifle Lee designed it for. Guys that have them report that it works well for that rifle. Dig around in this forum for 270.


too bad the nose is a bit narrow, or it would work in a 270Win.

wish I could help to make the #25, but I don't have a use for this one.

sorry guys

BRP
06-30-2011, 07:56 AM
Hey Orme.

I was just looking at your target pictures from the range.

Question. Did you crimp those loads? Also, did you "turn down" your sizing die expander ball? I turned mine down on a drill press with 320 grit paper so I would get about .004" neck tension. I've never needed to crimp since I did that but was wondering if you did in your testing.

morme@gte.net
06-30-2011, 09:16 AM
I used a Lee factory crimp die. RCBS sizing die, no changes to ball.. Pretty heavy crimp. I adjusted the die until I could see the crimp on the case. I chamfered the mouths to make seating easier without shaving lead.


Hey Orme.

I was just looking at your target pictures from the range.

Question. Did you crimp those loads? Also, did you "turn down" your sizing die expander ball? I turned mine down on a drill press with 320 grit paper so I would get about .004" neck tension. I've never needed to crimp since I did that but was wondering if you did in your testing.

15bobcat
06-30-2011, 06:01 PM
The changes are fine with me. Post #1, #17 on the list. comet1 (AT) frontiernet (DOT) net

Pay-Pal sent to expedite this portion of my payment.

Thank you Matt & BRP for the E-Mails

morme@gte.net
06-30-2011, 07:23 PM
If you guys see "odd" payment amounts (post 1), it is because I use the amount that PayPal credits me, not what was actually sent. i.e., for the full amount

for the full amount 0f $62.00
Amount received:$64.17 USD
Fee amount: -$2.16 USD
Net amount: $62.01 USD (sending $64.16 pays $61.99)

For the $27.00 "upgrade" the last payment I received broke up like this:
Amount received:$27.95 USD
Fee amount: -$1.11 USD
Net amount: $26.84 USD

FYI.
Paypal is a PIA!

shooter_gregg
07-01-2011, 08:31 AM
I'm still in. This is what I wanted any way.
Grcunyus



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shaggyant
07-03-2011, 10:29 PM
I will take one of these. Should I paypal the money now or??
my e-mail address is mischievous_007_ at hotmail dot com.

morme@gte.net
07-03-2011, 10:48 PM
Thanks, except I am not sure who you are. What is your email? (i.e., how are you listed in post 1?


I'm still in. This is what I wanted any way.
Grcunyus



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morme@gte.net
07-03-2011, 10:57 PM
PayPal works. $64.17 USD


I will take one of these. Should I paypal the money now or??
my e-mail address is mischievous_007_ at hotmail dot com.

BRP
07-04-2011, 08:09 AM
Mr. Orme,

I think Shooter Gregg first posted in Post # 41. He lists his email as “Grcunyus at Yahoo dot com”. Mr. Orme probably just needs Shooter Gregg’s Zip Code and method of payment. Looks like we’re doing really well. We just need to get everyone’s payment in to Mr. Orme. Then we’ll be Off to the Races!

morme@gte.net
07-05-2011, 09:30 AM
Sent "last chance" emails where needed. I will make the order at the end of the week. Anyone else want in, now is the time to let me know. PayPal ONLY to save time.

Matthew

morme@gte.net
07-05-2011, 08:48 PM
I will probably make the order Monday. There are several "checks in the mail", so I'll make a judgement call on the outstanding balances then. I'll probably order all 28. It's nice to see that there are more than I expected. Too bad it can't be kept open indefinitely, but I want my mould!

Fast Asleep
07-05-2011, 09:59 PM
I'd like to buy one of the .270 molds.

My email is tmjanke at sbcglobal dot net

I will mail my payment to you today.

Fast Asleep

panaceabeachbum
07-06-2011, 03:12 PM
Just forwarded additional $28.12 via paypal for change from 2 to 6 cavity. Thanks

Richard at ThompsonMachine dot net #13 - 32346

0verkill
07-11-2011, 03:33 PM
Let's hope nothing goes wrong this time or LEE doesn't change the rules again.

morme@gte.net
07-19-2011, 11:37 PM
Funny how long it took to get the order to Lee.

Class: First-Class Mail®
Service(s): Delivery Confirmation™
Status: Delivered

Your item was delivered at 2:39 pm on July 18, 2011 in HARTFORD, WI 53027.
Detailed Results:

July 18, 2011 Delivered, , 2:39 pm, HARTFORD, WI 53027
July 16, 2011 Out for Delivery, , 8:58 am, HARTFORD, WI 53027
July 16, 2011 Sorting Complete, , 8:48 am, HARTFORD, WI 53027
July 16, 2011 Notice Left (Business Closed), , 8:11 am, HARTFORD, WI 53027
July 16, 2011 Arrival at Unit, , 7:23 am, HARTFORD, WI 53027
July 15, 2011 Processed through Sort Facility, , 10:07 pm, OAK CREEK, WI 53154
July 13, 2011 Processed through Sort Facility, , 10:29 pm, SANTA CLARITA, CA 91383
July 13, 2011 Accepted at origin sort facility, , 10:29 pm, SANTA CLARITA, CA
July 12, 2011 Electronic Shipping Info Received,

morme@gte.net
07-19-2011, 11:40 PM
Also, a gentleman contacted me to add another to the order. I told him too much hassle, and to post a message here and one of the extras bought to complete the order might be sold to him. If you are interested, I'll forward his email.

timbuck
07-21-2011, 10:46 AM
Hi All,
I just got a letter from Lee:

dear Mr, (insert your name here),
we received a check you made to Lee Precision Inc, from Matthew Orme. We have no idea what was agreed upon between yourself and Mr. Orme but we received 18 checks and money orders of differing amounts. We do not feel comfortable in the manner this transaction is unfolding and as a result are returning your check and will pass on this custom order.

sincerely,

John Lee

hicard
07-21-2011, 11:22 AM
I assume all of us who sent checks will be getting the same letter along with our checks?

morme@gte.net
07-21-2011, 05:13 PM
I'm done. If someone else wants to try it again, good luck

I'll be refunding Paypal transactions immediately, and the checks made to me

Matthew

morme@gte.net
07-21-2011, 05:38 PM
Checks in the mail to those that sent checks made to me, and I have refunded all paypal transactions. Feel free to email me in a week if you have not received a refund

morme@gte.net

sorry it didn't work out

Matthew

panaceabeachbum
07-22-2011, 05:53 AM
Thanks for giving it a run, GBs can be quite a pain. I will still be in for a mold if someone decide to try from a different angle. Thanks again

ksJoe
07-22-2011, 06:15 AM
Yes, thanks for trying.

If anyone ever does a GB on a mold suitable for 6.8 SPC, please get the contact list from Matt, and email us all in case we don't see it!

0verkill
07-22-2011, 12:58 PM
First off, Mr. Orme - Thank you for trying so hard to get this done. I just wish it would have turned out better. I really wanted a mould for my 6.8, as we all did, and I'm really let down. I didn't put any work into this, you did, and you must be more frustrated than the rest of us.

I almost feel like I jinxed us with my last post. I just got my checks back in the mail today. I had to downgrade an NOE mould that's getting ready to be cut because I knew I had 124 dollars of uncashed checks made out to LEE. Oh well, that's money to spend on a mould for my recently acquired 444 Marlin. Moulds in that caliber are easy to find at least.

With all the trouble we had I almost get the feeling LEE either does not want to make this design or caliber, or maybe they just don't want to make custom moulds right now.

15bobcat
07-22-2011, 06:41 PM
Matthew:

Received the refunds today. Thank you for all of the hard work that you put into this buy.
This just reinforces the fact that LEE is no longer an option for group buys. Mihec & NOE are the better options.

Thanks again.........Harold.

morme@gte.net
07-22-2011, 07:52 PM
Are 25 moulds enough for Mihec? There were 27 moulds ordered, and I was contacted by several others (some of whom contacted Lee wanting to be added, which may have contributed to their change of heart. After all, they saw earlier that there were a lot of small checks made to them, and they only objected to the multiple versions, not payment method)

Whoever is in good with Miha might want to see if he will make this mould. the drawings are posted.

It performs better than any bullet I have tried todate

ksJoe
07-22-2011, 07:56 PM
What price would it take with Mihec? Aluminum? Brass?

mstarling
07-22-2011, 08:26 PM
Oh my! Just catching up. Had no idea things had gone to hell so badly! Shame on the Lee folks.

Has got to be a way to get something like this done ... but I'll be the organizers of this attempt will take a little time to recover!

Mr. Orme deserves a great deal of thanks for hangin' in there with this as challenging as it has been! Thank you, Sir.

Will be looking for the refund.

0verkill
07-23-2011, 01:26 AM
I sent a pm to Miha with this link http://www.tmtpages.com/LinkSkyImages/Sketches/lee%20mold%20277125%20128_gr_sketch.gif

I asked how many we would need to order and how much his 6 cavity aliminum moulds cost. I assumed this one wouldn't be easy to hollow point so I didn't ask aout brass. Maybe I should have. Would there be any interest in his 2 or 4 cavity brass moulds?

HenryC460
07-23-2011, 12:41 PM
I sent a pm to Miha with this link http://www.tmtpages.com/LinkSkyImages/Sketches/lee%20mold%20277125%20128_gr_sketch.gif

I asked how many we would need to order and how much his 6 cavity aliminum moulds cost. I assumed this one wouldn't be easy to hollow point so I didn't ask aout brass. Maybe I should have. Would there be any interest in his 2 or 4 cavity brass moulds?

I'd be interested in a 4- or a 6-cavity. Brass would be a plus, but I could go aluminum.

morme@gte.net
07-23-2011, 01:26 PM
interested in anything with 2 cavities or more.

morme@gte.net
07-23-2011, 01:31 PM
Here is a response to an email. I am getting a lot of requests to give it another go. Not me.

*************
>>>>>Matthew by now I'm sure you heard Lee has returned the checks for this buy. If you want to let things cool of a little and redo the order I'd still be in for one or two 6 cavity molds.

Thanks for putting this together, sorry it didn't pan out.<<<<<<

Nah, I'm done. I have 2 single cavity moulds I got from Italy (New old stock) so I can cast what I need. I would be interested in either 2 or 6 cavity if someone else wants to honcho

****************

hicard
07-24-2011, 03:50 PM
I got my refund check in the mail this weekend and also want to thank you for the efforts you put forth in this group buy Mr. Orme. Sorry it fell through also and will be looking for a future buy on this one, if it ever happens. I know it will not be through Lee.

Fast Asleep
07-26-2011, 05:00 PM
Matthew:

I got my check back from Lee as well. Thanks for all your work in getting this set up and sorry it didn't pan out. I'm still interested in a 100 to 125 grain .270 mold--in any number of cavities.

Fast Asleep

mstarling
07-27-2011, 08:17 AM
My check came back from Lee. Am still interested in a multiple cavity 125 gr mould. I did send a note to Swede Nelson of NOE asking if he might do one, but he never responded.

Again, thanks for the work on the attempt ... I really appreciate it!

Mike

Moonie
07-27-2011, 10:22 AM
LBT has molds in the weight class you are looking for.

0verkill
07-29-2011, 12:48 AM
Got a reply back from Miha. He said
"I have problem with round noses - If we can put small flat nose.....

Let me know"

So, anyone else okay with a small flat nose on this bullet?

hicard
07-29-2011, 06:12 AM
As long as it will feed in an AR-15, be around 115-125 grs and have a hp option, I would be interested.

Moonie
07-29-2011, 10:22 AM
Ok, now you have me interested, wasn't interested in Lee but one from Miha is a different animal all together.

I'm fine with a flat point, and or a hollow point.

0verkill
07-29-2011, 11:08 AM
With the original design, I figured a 6 cavity aluminum would be fine. With the flat point Miha should be able to do his reversible pins and give us the option of flat nose or hollow point by turning the pins upside down. The brass moulds Miha makes are great casting moulds and anyone who hasn't used one owes it to theirself to try one. The only snag I see with hollow points is maybe if the diameter is too small for the process he uses. The smallest I have is 9mm, but I'll see what his reply is.

Would everyone like to see a 2 cavity or 4 cavity. I vote 2 cavity myself because they are much lighter. It's kind of a trade off, I fatigue more quickly with a 4 cavity but produce bullets twice as fast. Also, a 2 cavity would be cheaper, and I assume that was on reason a lot of people wanted the LEE.

ksJoe
07-29-2011, 03:59 PM
I don't care about flat point or not. My motivation here is cheap plinking ammo. For hunting I'll use tsx's.

The appeal of Lee (to me) was a lot of mold for the price.

I'm very interested in what the options are and at what prices. Based on the prices I've seen on other GB's I'll probably not be opting for hollow point.

With Lee, we were talking about $30-$60 for 2-6 cavities. From what I've seen... I'm guessing this will be more like $80-100 for 2 cavity, $100-$120 for 4, and +$35 per cavity for hollow pointing.

If that's the case, I'm probably in for something, but what exactly I want depends on the prices.

hicard
07-29-2011, 06:45 PM
KsJoe, You are thinking of NOE charging $35 for a hp cavity. If you got a 2 cramer mould from Miha, the hp's are included in the price unless you order extra penta pins.

MiHec
08-05-2011, 01:29 AM
Boys I will look into that over the weekend.

I have some aluminum blocks ready (So we can go with 6cav. solids)

0verkill
08-05-2011, 05:53 AM
How much do the 6 cavity aluminum moulds cost?

MiHec
08-12-2011, 04:11 AM
Usually 85$ plus 20$ shipping

mstarling
08-12-2011, 06:07 AM
Am certainly interested in the 6 cavity mold. Do want the 125 rather than a lighter bullet that is less accurate.

Mihec volunteering to do the deed here?

Moonie
08-12-2011, 12:41 PM
Mihec, if you are going to do this one I'll get the money from somewhere for it.

morme@gte.net
08-12-2011, 12:44 PM
I never understood why a round nose is difficult. In the case of a mould with pins, a round burr to the flat end of a pin will produce a cavity for the round nose. And, if lee, who use cherries can do it, why not others?

Moonie
08-12-2011, 12:49 PM
morme@gte.net because Mihec uses a different process than Lee, which is why he can produce slightly different sized molds from the same cherry...

357 Voodoo
08-12-2011, 12:53 PM
lee lathe bores their moulds not cherries

hicard
08-12-2011, 01:26 PM
I am always ready to jump onto a Miha mould buy. If Miha has to have a meplat on the nose, I hope it will be a small one so the boolit will feed in my AR-15. I would like a hp option and would really be excited if Miha decided to make a cramer style 2 or 4 cavity brass mould. A 6 cavity aluminum mould would also be ok with me if that is what everyone else wants.

mstarling
08-13-2011, 06:20 PM
I hate to say it, but the nose of this bullet must be able to feed in an AR action ... otherwise no need for the mold. Not many 6.8 bolt rifles out there, and the bullet really is too light for a .270 Win.

Moonie
08-15-2011, 10:18 AM
lee lathe bores their moulds not cherries

Correct, I did not mean to give the impression that Lee used cherries, Miha does, Lee does not.

0verkill
08-17-2011, 12:07 AM
I could go for a brass cramer type too.

MiHec
08-17-2011, 04:55 AM
This is my version of 277-125. I can do it only with little flat nose. See picture.

This is solid mold.

hicard
08-17-2011, 07:26 AM
That would work for me Miha. Can it be hp'd (small pin)?

Moonie
08-17-2011, 10:10 AM
Miha, a 6 cavity of that would rock. I would like to point out that as far as feeding goes the Bator feeds perfectly in my 5.56 upper and it has more of a flat nose than this one. Granted the 6.8 hits lower.

Can you provide detailed measurements so we can determine how it will sit in the case and in the mag?

0verkill
08-18-2011, 01:09 PM
That's a tiny flat.
When are you looking to get these started?

ksJoe
08-24-2011, 07:45 PM
I think I'm in. This is a different mold at a different price point, so many on the original list might not go for it.

So what's the next step here?
Is there a minimum number to make this workable for MiHec? if so, what #?

hicard
08-24-2011, 11:03 PM
Last I heard, he wants at least 15 minimum.

mstarling
08-27-2011, 08:20 PM
I'd be in!

Moonie
08-31-2011, 12:18 PM
What the heck, SWMBO will just have to deal with it, I'm in for one.

0verkill
09-02-2011, 01:41 AM
How many do we have in for sure, I'd like to get this one made PDQ. My 6.8 is getting tired of copper.

Ben-WSU
09-13-2011, 10:56 PM
This looks like a nice mold. I guess I am about 2 months late in getting on this buy. Please let me know if this comes up again. -Ben

0verkill
09-16-2011, 11:04 PM
We haven't got these made yet, no word from Miha when these will get made.

ksJoe
09-17-2011, 07:26 AM
Is anything moving forward with Miha? Is there a new honcho for the Miha deal?

I'd really like to see this happen...

shawnsmc
09-17-2011, 12:39 PM
I'm looking at getting a 6.8x43 upper for my AR-15 and will be in need of a nice mold. So you can put me down for one also. I really like Miha's molds very well made.

Thanks,
Shawn

Moonie
09-17-2011, 03:37 PM
ksJoe, normally Miha honcho's his own, he does them differently than everyone else.

Miha, please let us know if we need to open a new thread now that you are going will be making these molds.

[smilie=w:

mstarling
09-19-2011, 08:46 AM
Really glad to hear that Miha is going to make the molds! Am in. Look forward to seeing him post the details on what he will offer and when they might get into the production stream.

... huge smile ...

Mike

P.K.
09-30-2011, 04:50 AM
ksJoe, normally Miha honcho's his own, he does them differently than everyone else.

Miha, please let us know if we need to open a new thread now that you are going will be making these molds.

[smilie=w:

X2!

I am interested as well. I have been looking at yardsales and flea bay in the hopes of running accross one of the old Lee moulds and nada.

0verkill
10-03-2011, 09:16 AM
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=129369

Now an active group buy from Miha. He said we needed to start a new thread so here it is.

jfl1950
05-18-2012, 02:02 PM
What is the latest on the molds?
Any left for sale?If so how much and whom do I pay?
What is the chance of getting some more made from the same mold lee has made?
Thanks

Boneguru
03-13-2013, 10:40 AM
any current info?
Thanks,
Ray

timbuck
03-17-2013, 09:40 AM
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?184164-Mp-Molds-Mihec-molds-on-hands-Februar-2013
He is out for now.