Surplus Military Brass (once fired) Public Law 111-383

[gwilliams2]

Didn't know where else to post this so seeing that this where I spend most of my time, I figured this would work. There was a "high level" meeting last week between DoD and the NRA regarding the disposition of once fired military brass... As most of you know, this brass (50 cal and smaller) can no longer be destroyed and must be offered for sale through DLADS (used to be DRMO). The word out of this meeting is that they will work on selling the current 8.3 million pounds to see if that "satisfies the reloaders" and then base a decision on the demand.... What's this means to me is that I'm gonna buy up as much of this surplus brass as I can over the coming months; I haven't been buying much brass lately, just reuse what I have... That's gonna change to help establish a high demand and hopefully keep the current rules in place that prevent us from destroying this perfectly usable brass.

With all of this said, does anyone have any good sources to buy strictly surplus brass (I'm kinda on the other side of this deal; shipping the brass to DLADS or destroying it again if the rules change).

[HangFireW8]

Wow.

I would expect it to show up here first:

http://www.gibrass.com/brass.html

Jeff is a good guy, but I don't understand using "M" for 1,000. To me, that's a "K".

EDIT: Hmm, that IMR7383 is looking interesting.

[Bullshop]

Why no mention of powder? Can they still destroy that?

[462]

"Jeff is a good guy, but I don't understand using "M" for 1,000. To me, that's a "K"."

"M" is the Roman numeral for 1000, established long before the metric system and its "K" evolved.

[bhn22]

Wow.

I would expect it to show up here first:

http://www.gibrass.com/brass.html

Jeff is a good guy, but I don't understand using "M" for 1,000. To me, that's a "K".

EDIT: Hmm, that IMR7383 is looking interesting.

"M" is the roman numeral for 1,000.

Arrrggghhhhhhhh.... I didn't scroll all the way down. Ummmm..., what 462 said, especially about the historical precedent.

[MtGun44]

I don't think we are talking about breaking down ammo, but once fired brass from training,
so probably no powder involved.

Most of the brass will wind up with commercial reloaders, I would imagine. Just glad it
is not going to be destroyed.

Bill

[Armorer]

Unfortunately when DRMO or Government Liquidation has an auction that includes brass, stripper clips, ammo cans etc., they generally put it in such large amounts that your average guy can't even come close to winning an auction on it. A couple of years ago I hauled a lot of stuff from various DRMO sites around the country and from time to time would ask about the auctions and essentially they were told to create the largest lots that they could. Sad really because most of it is bought by scrappers. One time I was in OK City at Government Liquidation and a guy pulled up in an 18 wheeler draggin an end dump FULL of 5.56 brass. That my friends is a LOT of brass.

Armorer

[stubshaft]

In the early 80's I used to bid on DRMO surplus, and won a lot of 45 ACP brass. The stipulation was that you had to remove it from the premises or it would be relisted. The lot contained six 55 gallon drums. I drove my Commanche in took one drum full and let them relist the rest. I used that brass to shoot IPSC for 8 or so years and still have two 5 gallon buckes full.

[stubshaft]

By the way I won that lot for $5.00.

[starbits]

By the way I won that lot for $5.00.

It is not like that anymore. A 4820 pound lot of 5.56 in Yuma sold a couple days ago for $14,000. Just a bit more than I would have liked to spend. 4100 pounds of 7.62 went for $10,750, and 1100 pounds of 9mm went for $2900. By the way those weights include the weight of the pallet and the steel drums the casings were in.

Starbits

[evan price]

I've been following the DRMO auctions for a while, I won one lot of brass once upon a time and it was a serious amount of work to get it saleable. Current auctions seem to be more like option contracts- the bid is for a certain tonnage over the course of a year, price is current but includes automatic adjustments UP for increase in raw material prices, etc.

Seems to be more in line of a scrap dealer anymore.

I stopped bidding on DRMO stuff but still look. There's a number of places within an easy drive of me in central OH; I recall the lot of brass I bought came from Fort Knox KY years ago.

They seem to have good deals on 6x6's and 5-tons if you can haul them. People always seem to bid up the CUCVs to stupid prices though.

[nanuk]

the last lot of once fired brass up here was for over 35,000kg.

I should look at what it sold for.

would be an interesting experiment for retirement.

the stuff I'd get would be all 5.56, 7.62, 50, and 20mm.... IIRC

[Skipper488]

Here it is
http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/endecaSearch?Ntt=brass&Ntk=P_Lot_Title&Ntx=mode+matchall&N=0&Nty=1&Ns=P_Lot_Number|0&words=brass&cmd=keyword

Lots vary from 100 lbs to over 38,000 lbs minimum starting bid is $150

[gwilliams2]

I don't think we are talking about breaking down ammo, but once fired brass from training,
so probably no powder involved.

Most of the brass will wind up with commercial reloaders, I would imagine. Just glad it
is not going to be destroyed.

Bill

Yep, we're only talking about once fired brass... No powder here.

[gwilliams2]

Here it is
http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/endecaSearch?Ntt=brass&Ntk=P_Lot_Title&Ntx=mode+matchall&N=0&Nty=1&Ns=P_Lot_Number|0&words=brass&cmd=keyword

Lots vary from 100 lbs to over 38,000 lbs minimum starting bid is $150

Sure wish that some of these locations were near me...

[herb101]

You can get once fired brass from Government Liquidation under WWW.Unclesamsretailoutlet.com 35 lbs of 5.56 Polished once fired for $144.95 . You can order 5.56 , 7.62 , and 50 cal.

[Skipper488]

gwilliams, I monitor this site and see some of them come up in TX from time to time. The same site also sells 2-1/2 ton trucks. I'm going to get me one of those once I get moved. :D

[GabbyM]

Whatever the price bids up to it's a supply into the civilian market which will temper cost of ammo at some point. In the end a pound of brass is worth a pound of brass. Quite a bit of process goes into manufacturing a brass case. There is a reason why the 223 Rem is the most popular round in sporting rifles. $95 per K conditioned brass may be a reason. $50 per K for dirty brass. Or you can pay $40 per 100 count for new rifle brass. I only got a fouth grade ejucation but I can figure that owt.

[JIMinPHX]

I don't understand using "M" for 1,000. To me, that's a "K".


M=1,000 & C=100 have been standard notations in commerce for many years.

[JIMinPHX]

http://www.gibrass.com/brass.html


Wow,
good prices on brass. $20/M to polish & process primer pockets is certainly reasonable too.

[edlmann]

Jeff is a good guy, but I don't understand using "M" for 1,000. To me, that's a "K".

You're thinking in terms of the metric system; Jeff was taught to read Roman numerals.

[edlmann]

M=1,000 & C=100 have been standard notations in commerce for many years.

Over 2000. :shock:

[scrapcan]

MM = thousand thousand or 1 million (6 zeros). just adding to the useless trivia in the thread.

Oops should have mentioned this was int he context of natural gas voumes and the Oil and Gas world, worry. See my comments below.

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

Akkkkkk!!

MM = 2,000 as in millenium.

Rich

[warf73]

MM = thousand thousand or 1 million (6 zeros). just adding to the useless trivia in the thread.

MM = 2,000 not 1million a M with we a line over it is 1million, we are in the of year of MMXI = 2011.

[James Wisner]

Roman numeral.

M = 1000

Metric system adopted in 1895, by most of Europe

K = negative 10,000

Computer system langauge

K = 1000

So just which numeral K are we talking about.

As 99 % of the people are using it in the wrong text. Kinda like starting a sentence in English and throwing a Chinese or German word in the middle and thinking all of us will understand it.

James Wisner

[Skipper488]

Wow has this thread taken a left turn. It's all interesting data for us triviaphiles though so keep it up.:cast_boolits:

[scrapcan]

Sorry guys , I was playing in another world. The world of natural gas.

MM is 1, 000, 000 when talking about gas volumes in the Oil and Gas world. Just adding to the confusion.

mcf is thousand cubic feet, mmcf is thousand thousand cubic feet or 1,000,000 cubic feet of natural gas.

anyway way off topic with that one. sorry guys.

[HangFireW8]

Computer system langauge

K = 1000

So just which numeral K are we talking about.


My computer K is 1024(decimal). :groner: