.50 boolit for elk from a 1:28 twist?

[troy_mclure]

my dad needs a boolit for an upcoming colorado elk hunt. he uses sabots currently in his knight wolverine, but colorado doesn't allow sabots.

so what is a good boolit for elk from a 1:28" twist 22" barrel muzzeloader using 2 50gr pyrodex pellets?

[Nobade]

I've recently been playing with the RCBS 400gr. bullet designed for the 500 S&W. It casts out right at .500", and holds a fair bit of lube. Looks like it will be a good muzzle loader bullet.

I have also had very good luck with paper patching the Lee 440gr. 500 S&W bullet, as Idohoron has been talking about. It doesn't carry enough lube to use naked, but paper patched and sized correctly it's accurate and deadly. Either of these two bullets will be plenty stable in a 1:28 twist barrel.

[NickSS]

I have killed two elk with my TC New Englander rifle and the 50 cal Hornady Great Plains bullet. Of course my rifle is a 1 in 48 but I do not see how that would not work in a 1 in 28. My load was 90 gr of FFG GOEX.

[runnin lead]

Pellets not legal in CO during muzzle loading season.
A few speed loaders with self premeasured powder is the way to go.
He could also try .50 I/C Maxi Balls , my .50 barrels are also 1-48 so
I have never shot them in a 1-28 ,should work even better.

[frontier gander]

my dad needs a boolit for an upcoming colorado elk hunt. he uses sabots currently in his knight wolverine, but colorado doesn't allow sabots.

so what is a good boolit for elk from a 1:28" twist 22" barrel muzzeloader using 2 50gr pyrodex pellets?

Cant use pellet powder in colorado either.

[wgr]

try a maxi ball they shoot great in my t.c hawken and will thump anything they hit. my rifle is a 1 in 28 twist

[bigted]

just a by-tha-way here. i fired more then a few boolits thru a in-line 28 inch barrel and the only thing i had issues with was the leading of the bore. i used reg muzzleloading lube but it didnt hold together for me. if i had it to do over i would use a bp style lube intended for bpcr ahead of blackpowder. the other thing i would do is maybe use a lube cookie as well if your gonna shove it at fast speeds.

the use of boolits of weight is very hunter friendly and another by-tha-way...try some lose and very real blackpowder and im bettin you will never look at those pellets again.

[Larry Gibson]

try a maxi ball they shoot great in my t.c hawken and will thump anything they hit. my rifle is a 1 in 28 twist


Second this choice. I use my own cast TC Maxi Balls in my TC Blk Mtn Magnum over 90 gr(V) of 777 FFG. Works as well over 2 pellets of same but pelletized powder not leagal where I ML hunt either (Oregon). Well worth a try over 2 Pyrodex pellets. The .50 cal maxi's are available commercially.

Larry Gibson

[wgr]

just a by-tha-way here. i fired more then a few boolits thru a in-line 28 inch barrel and the only thing i had issues with was the leading of the bore. i used reg muzzleloading lube but it didnt hold together for me. if i had it to do over i would use a bp style lube intended for bpcr ahead of blackpowder. the other thing i would do is maybe use a lube cookie as well if your gonna shove it at fast speeds.

the use of boolits of weight is very hunter friendly and another by-tha-way...try some lose and very real blackpowder and im bettin you will never look at those pellets again. o yes i for got the lube and cookie thing try spg are lyman black powder gold

[troy_mclure]

my dad is a fan of maxi balls, where would i buy a mould?

[wgr]

my dad is a fan of maxi balls, where would i buy a mould?

lyman

[shoestring]

try the powerbelts. i don't think they are actually a sabot. not sure about CO, but Idaho the projectile has to be within a dimension of the bore. .50 cal powerbelts measure out @ .498"

[masscaster]

Hi all,
.50 Maxi's from the Lyman Mould #504617 with a cast avg. of 6.5 Bhn.
Check out the Shop Link below.

[Good Cheer]

Found the Lyman 50 blunt nosed muzzleloader mold today while I was looking for something else. It would make an excellent elk knocker if your bore is big enough. It casts a little big in diameter for most fifties.

[idahoron]

If that mould your talking about is the Lyman Plains bullet #508656. DON'T get it. I got that mould to try for a replacement for the 410 gr Hornady Great plains bullet. The bullets this mould makes are not acceptable in any way. First, they are supposed to be .508 diameter, and they are NOT. At best they are .503" not .508 so I contacted Lyman and sent it back. They said everything was fine. I asked why Midway had it at .508 they said I don't know. Well I shot these bullets. They are a tapered design so the bottom ring is .497 and the top ring is .503. I tried over powder wads, and cards. I tried every powder charge from 50 gr to 110. I tried Pyrodex RS and Pyrodex P. I was getting 4" to 5" groups at 50 yards.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/2250399_felt_wad_50_yard_2.jpg

Here is a 50 yard group with the Hornady bullets.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/2250410_gr_hornady_great_plains.jpg

I changed the load and I started to get sub 2" groups at 100 yards. This was my best group with that load.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/2250Group_2_small.jpg

So as you can see I was not impressed with the Lyman mould. I even tried to paper patch them and still nothing worked. I finally just sold the mould and went to the Paper Patched Lee C-501-440-RF, and never looked back. Ron

[Good Cheer]

Hey Ron.
It's one I've had in the box a long time.
It casts bigger than .50 on the base ring. I never used it beyond sizing the back end down to .499" and trying it in a CVA that I no longer have. Guess I could try doing the same thing for the LRH barrel but I'd have to size it down again.
I just opened another thread asking if it was made for the Lyman Great Plains Hunter barrels.

[idahoron]

To be honest trying those bullets in a GM LRH barrle is a waste of powder and lead. Ron