35WCF vs. 35 krag

[RU shooter]

Are the two basicly the same? Was reading in my old version of COW that the 35 wcf. is formed from the 30/40 ? I couldnt find any real chamber drawings to compare the two but it looks like the 35 wcf just has a shorter neck similar to the 35 rem? I was looking at my old lyman die set for the 35 rem and the seater die has 35 rem/35 wcf written on it ? same neck and shoulder dimensions? Both look like they would make a dandy CB cartridge,maybe the 35 Krag better with the longer neck.


Tim

[Bullshop]

I think the 35 wcf is on the 405 win case so would be longer than something on the Krag case but have the same head.

[shooter93]

The 35 wcf is longer than the Krag. I've done quite a bit of shooting with a couple 35 Krags we built. On a strong action it's quite a round, although I did mine on a Krag action. I like it for cast because it has more capacity than a 358 win and a long neck, easy to make and econonmical brass.....RU...I assume you're near Pittsburgh, I'm near State College. A few people were talking in chat the other night about a meeting for lunch at the NRA convention next year.

[Char-Gar]

shooter93... I have been thinking about a 35 Krag, but have been unable to locate a source of reloading dies. Any ideas!

[gnoahhh]

Perhaps a Lee Collet die for sizing and a .35 Remington die for seating? I don't know for a fact, just throwing it out.

[shooter93]

Charger....most anyone can make the dies but I know Redding has them, and you don't need a separate forming die just a standard set. I paid for the first set they made years ago so the engineering is done so you wouldn't have to pay for that. They call it the 35-30/40 krag I believe but they will know what you want. I also had a reamer made from the dummy rounds I made. If you need a smith to chamber for you I can give you his name but you'd have to send it to him....he doesn't lend/rent reamers. When we started these rifles a number of years ago there was virtually little written about the round but it's gaining paopularity. I finally sent mine out to get checkered so it will soon be complete......finally...lol.

[plain old dave]

Been a Krag fan for a long time and been handloading for mine for almost as long. Is there any data for the .35 Krag with chamber pressure?

[shooter93]

Not much pressure data out there. I started with 358 Win. loads backed down quite a bit. Someone with Quickload can get you close for pressures. I've been able to move 225-250 grain bullets in the 2100 fps range within pressures for a Krag usin a 22 inch barrel. I seated them longer than standard which is easily done in the magazine.

[plain old dave]

That's EXACTLY where I want to be; with modern powders a .30-40-220 can make 2100 safely. All's I want is to duplicate Krag ballistics with a .35.

[plain old dave]

Any pix of brass/ loaded cartridges? I finally found the Handloader article, and the .35 Krag there really resembles .303 Brit after being shot through a Ross rifle. I prefer a bit more neck than that.