1895M (450 Marlin) Bites the Dust!

[Ranch Dog]

It a shame but official. The 1895M has been dropped from the MarRem catalog. I figured that when Hornady held up production of 450 Marlin brass, the handwriting was on the wall.

Nothing in the new catalog to interest me. I cannot see Remington adding anything in the future, just taking away. Was the last 30-30 Win chamber that Remington cut the 788? I think so...

[izzyjoe]

i'm with you rd, it don't look to good for marlington. but i just hope they can keep it alive. :-)

[Nightfisher]

i'm with you rd, it don't look to good for marlington. but i just hope they can keep it alive. :-)

I don’t think that they will try to keep it alive. They will milk it for what they can and shut it down like they have done others. They may keep a couple of token models.

[MtGun44]

Anybody wonder if some rich antigun SOB has figured out REALLY how to destroy the
US firearms industry? Buy them all up, shut them down and walk away.

Bill

[Ranch Dog]

Anybody wonder if some rich antigun SOB has figured out REALLY how to destroy the
US firearms industry? Buy them all up, shut them down and walk away.

Bill

Yes, I have!

[KYCaster]

What do you expect from the dog that guards the entrance to Hades?

From the first time I heard that company name, Cerberus, I've wondered what image they're trying to project and what message they're trying to send to their customers. I have yet to come up with an answer I like.

Jerry


BTW...didn't Herculese kill that thang? Broke all three of it's necks, didn't he?

[swheeler]

Maybe George Sorros is in the gun business

[Heavy lead]

I hear what you guys are saying, and hope you're wrong. But assuming this is just because of low sales, I can understand it. I never could see the reason for the .450, at least not from Marlin, it won't do anything a 45-70 will do. Arguments were made that the .450 was a 45-70 that non handloader could use, that's bunk, number one Corbon loads are available, number two, I think someone that shoots the .450 would be a handloader.
I see it much the same as the demise of the Winchester Super Shorts and others. Just redundant.
Only .450 that interested me ever was the BLR.
If Marlin wants to be successful they need to bring out more 1894's IMO, and regular runs of .41's, .45's, and make the damn .44 with the right twist.

[Gee_Wizz01]

I too have wondered if the Cerebus group's purpose is too destroy as much of the US arms industry as possible. The have Marlin, Bushmaster, and Remington. They have closed down and relocated Marlin and Bushmaster factories. Bushmaster and Marlins quality have gone down the tubes this year and Remington is under attack by the media for dangerous triggers and safeties. Makes you wonder.

G

[Bullshop]

They made a couple mistakes with the 450.
First they were deceptive about its performance. It is nothing more than a hot loaded 45/70. Anyone loading the 45/70 to its potential knew that regardless of the advert hype, and it didn't take the rest long to find out. Second was the hideous fat belt that eliminated any other source of brass.
If they had just simply chambered the 458 American/458x2" maybe the outcome would have been different. With the 458 American you can use any other belted case you find lying about accept the 450M. With that they get the same performance and could have spent thier hype advert $ expounding on the availability of brass.

[6pt-sika]

When I was hoarding Marlin lever rifles I had three rifles in 450 Marlin !

The original 1895M that was a first year production . An 1895MXLR first year production and the kinda rare 1895MR . All three of them shot well and handled okay . I actually liked the cartridge better then the 45-70 with my hot handloads and jacketed bullets .

But when I started disposing of the vast majority of them the 3 450's hit the block the same time as most of my 45-70's . Out of the 3 450's and the 7 45-70's I had only one 45-70 remains along with the almost two dozen 444's .

And those choices have to do more with when those guns were made more then anything else .

You say the 1895M got the axe but are they still making the 1895MXLR ?

[JJC]

Anybody wonder if some rich antigun SOB has figured out REALLY how to destroy the
US firearms industry? Buy them all up, shut them down and walk away.

Bill

Yup I don't like it. Many people I spoke to have the same feeling. But you could not tell that in the gun magazines jolly write up's.

[starmac]

Are they actually making any of them at the present time.

[smkummer]

The caliber was not really needed by many at all, especially with hotter 45-70 factory ammo available. To top it off they used a propietory cartridge/case, this would almost assure its demise like the .348 Win. (The .348 would have never died if it were made in a .357 bore diameter) Obviously, it would have been a much greater advantage to chamber in 458x2, if for one reason to know that reloaders like making brass from other cases. Marlin made a great decision to go with ballard rifling in most of its centerfires a few years ago realizing that reloaders wanted it.

[Old Goat Keeper]

Exactly the thot that popped into my head and he HAS enough money to do it.

Tom


Maybe George Sorros is in the gun business

[Baron von Trollwhack]

The cerebus management thrust is to strip out the value of its acquisitions and leave the rest to fail.

I do not think bozo will want to bail out Remington when the time comes as he did for gm, because bozo and his buds are neither pro gun nor positive on America. Somehow that just shows in so many ways.

BvT

[6pt-sika]

I do not think bozo will want to bail out Remington when the time comes as he did for gm, because bozo and his buds are neither pro gun nor positive on America. Somehow that just shows in so many ways.

BvT

All we can hope is the one you call "bozo" and I think more of as ***** will not be re elected !

[snowwolfe]

The 450 was really invented for a solution to a problem that never existed in the first place.

[mustanggt]

I was afraid of Marlin getting shut down period when Remington bought it. I thought why in the hell would they buy it??? Then I found out that Cerberus owned them. All they are is an investment group who at one point owned Chrysler. I can't remember if it was before or after Mercedes Benz. They aren't gun people at all (not car people either) and I don't believe they care. They have ridden the gun buying frenzy and probably will bail and move on to something else eventually. I distrust big enteties anyway and worry about that effecting other firearms related businesses like ATK. They are a very large conglomerate that own Federal, RCBS, Speer etc. and have huge military contracts. Small family run businesses and companies such as Hornady, Nosler, Savage, Marlin, before the take over, and the like, are a dying breed much the same way that Walmart has killed alot of local small businesses. Our way of life and our traditions have been erroding for along time now. It is just accelerating at a much faster pace these days. However I am just as able to believe it's Soros or some mad conspiracy of some sort to steal our God given rights and destroy all of our futures. It's easy to believe it because so many so called conspiracies are coming true today.

[Heavy lead]

They bought Chrysler when Diamler/Benz sold, or whatever they did. This is where we need hometown people to take these companies over, the labor complains about plants shutting down, industrious people need to pick it up here and buy our companies back. Cerberus is just what everyone says they are, a private corp. that tries to turn around companies and introduce an IPO and make money from them, they are not expert at anything.

[starmac]

When was Marlin a small family owned business, I was thinking it was sold the first time in the teens or 20's.
I hate to see one corporation buy them all, but they may have been faltering and gone away with out being bought up and consolidated.
Maybe this will be for the best.

[PatMarlin]

There will always be a market for the Lever gun.

I think if Marlin went as mentioned with the 1894's and offered Deluxe models, models with fancy grades of wood and case hardening options like in the old days, and fix all the issues like the 44, they would do well.

I will not buy a plain flat saw wood stocked rifle. Period. If these manufactures don't start putting some style into their products, I think they are loosing it. And they have been losing it.

Someone will pick Marlin back up, dust it off and make it a great company again. One day.

[mustanggt]

Of course we all hope it will be for the best. In an ideal world Marlin will be in a stronger fiscal situation and Remington will let Marlin do what it does best make some of the best leveraction rifles in the world. As well as affordable bolt guns. Big corporations are just as dangerous to us as governments are as we can see today. Me, I'll take my guns blued and walnut with a little case coloring thrown in for good measure.

[6pt-sika]

I don't wanna sound "to" negative .

But I doubt seriousely if Marlin will make another new firearm that I'll want to purchase . So..............................!

I am thinking I need to get a 1894 Sporter or possibly another 336-44 . But other then that (unless I have a major attitude change) I don't see myself buying ANYMORE Marlin's period !

[PatMarlin]

Sika- you already bought and have owned more Marlins than anyone in History- I know you're gonna buy one more... :mrgreen:

It's like everything else manufactured in American history- it's all pretty much been done. I saw it in the music business with pro music gear. What was the next marketing move? Tubes. Fine nostalgic knock off reproductions. I called that one too. Marlin will come back someday.

Put it this way- if you had a chance to buy a reproduction, finer than Rossi or any of the Italian knock offs, but get a real one- a high quality deluxe Marlin in your favorite old time or newer caliber (reasonably priced) what will you want to do?

You're gonna go with the style and quality of Marlin.

They autta put me in charge of product development... LOL.

[bcr]

If consumers want something, someone will produce it. My impression is that the majority of shooters now are only interested in black rifles and tupperware pistols, they don't reload and couldn't shoot their way out of a sandwich bag with armor piercing bullets. I wish it wasn't true, but that seems to be the market, so that is who the gun companies will produce for.

As long as there is demand, I don't think the global power elite can eliminate the gun industry by buying up the producers. It's like this insane war on drugs that focuses on the producers and distributors rather than the consumers. We can see how successful that's been.

On the other hand, the gun industry is relatively small, ~$200M per year by what I understand.

[6pt-sika]

Sika- you already bought and have owned more Marlins than anyone in History- I know you're gonna buy one more... :mrgreen:



I think I was up to 90-100 at one time . But now I'm down to 2 dozen . All made before 1975 except the 2002 Marlin 444 I have for the 400 grainers .

Nope a 1894 Sporter in 44 MAG or a 336-44 is all I can think of in the Marlin line I'm willing to spend what they're worth on !

Now granted if I could buy some old "original" 1893's , 1894's or 1895's at a ridiculosely low price sure I'll buy them but more then likely will resell them as well :bigsmyl2:

[Baron von Trollwhack]

Just think.

The liberal, progressive, socialist, collectivism, communist, activist effort that has slowly grown here at home for a long time destroyed the hunting, shooting, scouting aspects of our culture and certainly other significant aspects of our heritage and now has given us a president who married in and attended a black liberation theology church for twenty years after his EEO rise to power. Can the future be bright? I think not.

The venomed barb has just as effortlessly now struck the military too.

How much time is left for our beloved NATION? BvT

[Hickory]

Anybody wonder if some rich antigun SOB has figured out REALLY how to destroy the
US firearms industry? Buy them all up, shut them down and walk away.

Bill

That would only make sence if they got a government bailout.:holysheep

[NickSS]

When it was introduced I thought that the 450M was a dodo bird headed for early extinction along with several other new calibers that are going to be short lived. Remington/Marlin would have done better chambering a run of their rifles in like 40-65 Win or one of the other clasic old cartridges. I bet they would sell to the CAS people in job lots. As it was the 4550 M is a round that was a poor choice from the git go and its early retirement does not surprise me at all

[doubs43]

Gotta agree with NickSS; Marlin would be smart to make the 1894 and 1895 rifles in classic cartridges such as the 40-65, 45-60 and 38-55. I'd buy one today... if only they made them. I especially like the 38-55.

[NHlever]

Marlin is trying the deluxe route, and I'm not sure that is going to work well. I handled a deluxe 1894 in 44 Mag yesterday that was one of only 3 Marlins left in an otherwise empty Marlin rack. The street price for the 44 was around $850, and I think that is a bit much for nicer wood. I guess the action, and trigger were a bit better than average too, but not as good as the old .44 1894 they had in the used gun rack............. shoulda bought that one!
The trouble is that many of these companies just have too much rework, worn out fixtures, etc. in their production lines, and they are paying to do things more than once instead of paying the same money for more quality. That results in a more medicore product that costs them as much to build as a much better quality one where all the operations were just done once, and done right.

[6pt-sika]

Gotta agree with NickSS; Marlin would be smart to make the 1894 and 1895 rifles in classic cartridges such as the 40-65, 45-60 and 38-55. I'd buy one today... if only they made them. I especially like the 38-55.

They could do 500 gun runs of the 1895 in 38-56 , 40-65 and a longer version in 40-82 and 45-90 !

And I would be willing to bet you good money it would take 5 years for someone like Davidson's to sell all 2,000 of those guns to dealers . Thats a nitch market and IMHO we will NEVER live long enough to see them do something like that .

I also bet if they made such a thing it would be very very close to $2000 . If not more !

[Tazman1602]

MMMPH...................

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day Craig..............

I showed my wife this post and she just sighed and said "Well there goes another vacation. I suppose you SHOULD buy a couple of more Marlins. "

Anyone, of course, who's been married almost 30 years as we have knows "The Look" she had when she said that.............

450 Marlin was a good gun, my scout rifle is a .450 only thing I ever hated about it was the price of brass.

Stinkin rotten no good blasted corporate raiders


I don't wanna sound "to" negative .

But I doubt seriousely if Marlin will make another new firearm that I'll want to purchase . So..............................!

I am thinking I need to get a 1894 Sporter or possibly another 336-44 . But other then that (unless I have a major attitude change) I don't see myself buying ANYMORE Marlin's period !

[PatMarlin]

Wonder how many vacations Marlin's spoiled? ..:mrgreen:

I've been good. I haven't bought one for 2 years now. Maybe only cause there's been no extra money? ...:mrgreen:

[doubs43]

They could do 500 gun runs of the 1895 in 38-56 , 40-65 and a longer version in 40-82 and 45-90 !

And I would be willing to bet you good money it would take 5 years for someone like Davidson's to sell all 2,000 of those guns to dealers . Thats a nitch market and IMHO we will NEVER live long enough to see them do something like that .

I also bet if they made such a thing it would be very very close to $2000 . If not more !

Considering the cartridges you've listed, with the single exception of the 40-65, those rifles likely wouldn't sell very quickly. In the cartridges I listed, IMO they'd do OK for sales.

Perhaps I'm looking at it wrong but I see no reason why the cost of such rifles would be much more than the standard 1895 Cowboy rifle. Other than the bore dimensions and chambers, what other mods would be required?

I'll also add that IMO Browning is missing the boat by not offering the Winchester 1895 in 38-55. I know it's not one of the "traditional" chamberings for that rifle but then neither is the 270 that they do offer.

[starmac]

Most businesses do feasibility and market studys before they launch or tool up for anything. These are all niche markets and as much as people love them, not enough people love them for them to be produced unless they could get an ungodly price.
I don't know how many they would have to sell to make a special run worth it at normal prices, but it would be in the thousands I think.

[1Shirt]

It will become a collectors item and the price will be sky hi very soon and in the future.
I also so no use for the ctg., but it is the market that determines sales and future production. Once in a great while, one like this has a rebirth, but have serious doubt that this one will ever be resirected. Let's face it, everything we NEED, is and has been available for a long time. What we want, or think we need is what keeps the "New" ctg. folks in business. Some of the new ones in the past 30 years were as dead as buggy whips within a couple of years after they hit the market.
1Shirt!:coffeecom

[JesterGrin_1]

Gotta agree with NickSS; Marlin would be smart to make the 1894 and 1895 rifles in classic cartridges such as the 40-65, 45-60 and 38-55. I'd buy one today... if only they made them. I especially like the 38-55.

Marlin did make the 336 CB ( Cowboy) in 38-55.

[Tommie D]

The 2011 Remlin Catalog
http://d27vj430nutdmd.cloudfront.net/9629/56797/56797.1.pdf

[doubs43]

Marlin did make the 336 CB ( Cowboy) in 38-55.

Yes, they did make the 1895 CB in 38-55, but hen's teeth are easier to find... at least at a reasonable price. Even the current 45-70 1895 CB is unavailable from distributors.

[PatMarlin]

Been looking for an 1894 in 357 mag- case hardened, for my wife's 50th birthday coming, but have not found one with decent wood.

[6pt-sika]

Yes, they did make the 1895 CB in 38-55, but hen's teeth are easier to find... at least at a reasonable price. Even the current 45-70 1895 CB is unavailable from distributors.



They did not make the 1895CB in 38-55 . The only 38-55 Cowboy thats EVER been made was called a "336CB" .

Now while you may say the 1895 and 336 actions are pretty much the same thing . There is no such thing as a Model 1895CB that is factory original and barrel marked 38-55 !

[6pt-sika]

Considering the cartridges you've listed, with the single exception of the 40-65, those rifles likely wouldn't sell very quickly. In the cartridges I listed, IMO they'd do OK for sales.

Perhaps I'm looking at it wrong but I see no reason why the cost of such rifles would be much more than the standard 1895 Cowboy rifle. Other than the bore dimensions and chambers, what other mods would be required?

I'll also add that IMO Browning is missing the boat by not offering the Winchester 1895 in 38-55. I know it's not one of the "traditional" chamberings for that rifle but then neither is the 270 that they do offer.

Like the 45-60 would really sell , yeah right .
That was a Winchester 1876 cartridge . I've owned every lever action caliber Marlin chambered except the 45-90 . Not exactly a good cartridge to choose to get in on the retro thing with a Marlin .

You don't get the whole gunmaker production thing . ANYTHING out of the norm costs a premium price in this day and time , even though the quality may not seem to justify the price .

Back when Marlin WAS making the 336CB's and a good many 1894CB's Davidson's contracted with them to make some limited runs of virtually the same thing in a couple other calibers . They were all 2 to 3 hundred dollars more in price .

[6pt-sika]

I showed my wife this post and she just sighed and said "Well there goes another vacation. I suppose you SHOULD buy a couple of more Marlins. "



Pass it along to your wife , the Marlin's I "had" and sold financed a 2 month trip to the Philippines in 2009 , a 3 week trip to the Philippines in 2010 and I'm about to leave for another 3 wek trip again to the Philippines and this time also Marlin products financed the trip [smilie=6:

[doubs43]

They did not make the 1895CB in 38-55 . The only 38-55 Cowboy thats EVER been made was called a "336CB" .

Now while you may say the 1895 and 336 actions are pretty much the same thing . There is no such thing as a Model 1895CB that is factory original and barrel marked 38-55 !

OK, I misspoke and thanks for the correction.

[doubs43]

Like the 45-60 would really sell , yeah right .
That was a Winchester 1876 cartridge . I've owned every lever action caliber Marlin chambered except the 45-90 . Not exactly a good cartridge to choose to get in on the retro thing with a Marlin .

You don't get the whole gunmaker production thing . ANYTHING out of the norm costs a premium price in this day and time , even though the quality may not seem to justify the price .

Back when Marlin WAS making the 336CB's and a good many 1894CB's Davidson's contracted with them to make some limited runs of virtually the same thing in a couple other calibers . They were all 2 to 3 hundred dollars more in price .

When Davidson's contracted to have the special runs, were they identical to the stock Marlin rifles or were they adorned with better wood, polished and finished better etc? That could easily account for the difference in price. There would be little attraction for buyers if Davidson's simply supplied the identical guns as Marlin routinely did and called them "Special". So the question is, was the price increase due to being a different chambering or was it created by the enhanced specs that Davidson's required?

I do understand your point but your original estimate of $2,000 per copy seems excessive to me.

[Bullshop]

38/56 would be interesting.
40/50 BN or straight would be interesting as well.
Bring back the ZIPPER woo hoo!!!!
25/36 OMG I cant stop!!!

[Heavy lead]

The 25-35/36 whatever you want to call it is the first one I would want, .38-55 is the second.
IMO the 444 is the business even though I don't have one anymore.

[451whitworth]

i agree with the 25-35 wcf. that would sell well in the 336. those other new Marlin cartridges won't be around in ten years either.

[6pt-sika]

I do understand your point but your original estimate of $2,000 per copy seems excessive to me.

Well when you look at what Cabela's is asking for the "new" Winchester 94 in 38-55 at $1595 , I don't really think $2000 is that excessive .

[starmac]

Take a look at the big horn armories levers. I don't know how well they are selling, but they must be selling some at the 2000 mark and better.

[doubs43]

Well when you look at what Cabela's is asking for the "new" Winchester 94 in 38-55 at $1595 , I don't really think $2000 is that excessive .

Cabela's 94 Winchester illustrates my point when I asked about such rifles being made to higher specs than the run of the mill production. I can see why the price is high. Cabela's rarely sells anything at a bargain price but if watched carefully, a good buy comes along now and again.

In late 2009, Cabela's ran a sale on the Pedersoli 1874 Sharps reproduction rifles in 45-70. Normally priced at $1,000, they were sold for $800 and I bought one. It's very accurate and I'm well pleased with it.

Where do you go in the PI? I've spent time in Cebu.

[6pt-sika]

Where do you go in the PI? I've spent time in Cebu.

I go to Cagayan de Oro City on the island of Mindanao .

[doubs43]

I go to Cagayan de Oro City on the island of Mindanao .

About 1975, my wife - she's from Cebu - and I, along with our sons, took an overnight boat from Manila to Cebu. The airlines were on strike and we were lucky enough to get the last cabins that were available. But, she and the children stayed in a separate cabin while I was assigned to one occupied by the Mayor of Cagayan de Oro City. A very nice and interesting man who enjoyed the time on the boat - the "MV Cebu City" - away from the pressures of his job. He generously extended an offer to my family and me to be his guest if we ever made it to Cagayan de Oro City but we never did.

My wife was in Cebu as recently as last year but I haven't been back since 1976 although I was on Luzon in 1977 IIRC. Cebu City has expanded greatly since I was last there and the population has exploded.

[6pt-sika]

About 1975, my wife - she's from Cebu - and I, along with our sons, took an overnight boat from Manila to Cebu. The airlines were on strike and we were lucky enough to get the last cabins that were available. But, she and the children stayed in a separate cabin while I was assigned to one occupied by the Mayor of Cagayan de Oro City. A very nice and interesting man who enjoyed the time on the boat - the "MV Cebu City" - away from the pressures of his job. He generously extended an offer to my family and me to be his guest if we ever made it to Cagayan de Oro City but we never did.

My wife was in Cebu as recently as last year but I haven't been back since 1976 although I was on Luzon in 1977 IIRC. Cebu City has expanded greatly since I was last there and the population has exploded.


Well I'm heading outta Dullus at 7AM this saturday ! Going to JFK then catch a flight from there to Tokyo to refuel and then on to Manila where I will meet my fiancee and we will stay overnight and catch Cebu Pacific flight the following morning to CDO !

[doubs43]

Well I'm heading outta Dullus at 8AM this saturday ! Going to JFK then catch a flight from there to Tokyo to refuel and then on to Manila where I will meet my fiancee and we will stay overnight and catch Cebu Pacific flight the following morning to CDO !

Have a good flight and stay in CdO. Some of the best food I've ever eaten in restaurants was in the PI.

[6pt-sika]

Have a good flight and stay in CdO. Some of the best food I've ever eaten in restaurants was in the PI.

Being from the old south and all you would think I wouldn't like the fried chicken there !

But there's a chain called "Max's Resteraunt" and they without a doubt make some of THE BEST fried chicken I have ever eaten this country or anywhere else !

I usually get a whole lechon every trip and we have a "family" meal at my finacee's parents home . Usually draw about 30-40 . And each time I foot the bill for the whole shindig ! Cost me about $200-300 each time and we get enough food to feed the whole crowd to meals !

Finacee makes some excellent Shanghai Lumpia as well as several adobo dishes !

I'm not much on the Tanduay Rum . But Tanduay makes a pretty decent Gin . The San Mig Lite isn't terrible either but they make a beer called "Cerveza Negra" that is really really good ! Kinda reminds me of the mexican beer "Negra Modela".

[6pt-sika]

Oh yeah !

RD sorry I sorta kinda maybe hijacked your thread !

[Marlin Junky]

Every year at this time I check the Marlin website to see if they have tightened up the twist on their 1894 in .44M. Result this year: disappointment, again.

They also dumped the XLR in .35R.

Oh well, I hope they sell lots of guns this year. If they can keep selling competitively priced, quality guns, that can't hurt the custom gunsmithing industry. Granted, they'll probably never reintroduce the original 1895; however, cranking out more and more 336 actions can't be a bad thing... as long as folks buy 'em!

BTW, how many 9-year-olds out there don't have a M39 that should have? I suppose we all hold the future of Marlin in our... ur, aaa... mouth.

MJ

[mroliver77]

I don't care as much about fancy wood and other pretties as having the critical dimensions right. It sucks to have over(or under) sized bores, non existent "throats", barrel restrictions, .0025"deep rifling etc. I don't know what it would take (cost) to build a solid "shooter" grade lever gun from the factory. Most guns these days seem like a kit to build on.
I would like to see more intermediate chamberings available. I would really like to see a .357 maximum lever gun! I agree that the 25-35 and the zipper would be cool. I think a .223 (and .222) lever would be neat along with a 7.62X39 but these latter ones would be hard to do in a Marlin as they have pointy bullets. A nice light .32 long, mag or maybe even a .327 would be very useful around here. I think a handy walkabout lever in 9mm,.40 S&W, 10mm, 45acp would sell like crazy and be a real hoot and a great working weapon. My $1.97 worth.
Jay

[PatMarlin]

There is always the BLR Browning. Limited calibers but they are very nice and shoot pointies.

[6pt-sika]

There is always the BLR Browning. Limited calibers but they are very nice and shoot pointies.

I was obsessed once to get a pair of BLR's !

Wanted one in 270 WSM and the other in 325 WSM . And handled quite a few ones on dealers shelves . Never could quite swallow the price . So I waited for a used one to appear . And sure enough a LNIB BLR in 270 WSM with a Leupold 3-9 showed up in one of the shops I frequent . I threw that one up to my shoulder and in about 2 seconds I decided this was not the rifle for me . The feel of a BLR doesn't suit me . I admit they felt sorta ok with no scope , but once the scope was put on them they really went down hill in the feel department for me . So I never bought a BLR !

[6pt-sika]

MMMPH...................

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day Craig..............

I showed my wife this post and she just sighed and said "Well there goes another vacation. I suppose you SHOULD buy a couple of more Marlins. "

Anyone, of course, who's been married almost 30 years as we have knows "The Look" she had when she said that.............

450 Marlin was a good gun, my scout rifle is a .450 only thing I ever hated about it was the price of brass.

Stinkin rotten no good blasted corporate raiders

I stand corrected !

I made the deal for another 444 Marlin yesterday !

[Tom-ADC]

What do you expect from the dog that guards the entrance to Hades?

From the first time I heard that company name, Cerberus, I've wondered what image they're trying to project and what message they're trying to send to their customers. I have yet to come up with an answer I like.

Jerry


BTW...didn't Herculese kill that thang? Broke all three of it's necks, didn't he?

Wasn't that the company that pretty neae killed off Chrysler?

[Tazman1602]

LOL..................I'm working on one of the new stainless 45-70's man...................!!!!!!!!!!

Art


I stand corrected !

I made the deal for another 444 Marlin yesterday !

[PatMarlin]

I stand corrected !

I made the deal for another 444 Marlin yesterday !

See... I told you so.

I'm trying to decide on my wife's 50th birthday present. What do you think she would like- a new lever rifle or vacation in same dollars?... :mrgreen:

[Tazman1602]

Pat..............DUDE........................I gaurentee you, well, I don't know your wife, but I do know mine does NOT want a new Remington 700 BDL 30-06 for Christmas, Birthdays, or Anniversary's..................
:kidding::kidding::kidding:


See... I told you so.

I'm trying to decide on my wife's 50th birthday present. What do you think she would like- a new lever rifle or vacation in same dollars?... :mrgreen:

[6pt-sika]

See... I told you so.


Well I sorta kinda had to make an exception !

This what I can only term as a Pre Production Marlin in 444 that was put together in 1964 . The barrel is rollstamped "336-444 Magnum" !

So since I found this thing I think it only appropriate that I get a new mold cut for it !

Looks like a LBT 433-365GC is in the works !