Is the saeco rg4 dead???????

[Montana Ron]

I'm not seeing anything much in print dealing with this bullet? Is there a problem with the design or is it just fallen by the wayside???????:groner:

[excess650]

I don't recall reading much about any of the Saeco designs. It may be due the fact that their molds are $$. Too, Saeco molds use Saeco handles.

I have the #301 aka RG4. It casts .3005" x .311" from my alloy, and is my current favorite heavy 30cal for the 30-06. I've also shot it from my 1894CB 30-30, and from a 7.5x55 K31 with worn throat.

I also have #307, #311, and #315. The #315 is a tapered bullet that weighs in right at 175gr. The nose is typically .3035" and the base band .312". This is my favorite middle weight 30 for the same calibers mentioned. This bullet is generally seated out as far as possible so as to engage the leade. There have been lots of positive comments here (CB) about the #315.

The #307 and similar #305 are much like the Lyman 311041 except for slightly heaver. My #307 casts .302" x 310". The #305 is larger in diameter.

#311 is what I would call a silhouette design with a single lube groove, and about 165gr. The nose is tapered, and I don't recall the dimensions right offhand. I have it, but haven't messed with it very much.

My #301 is the easiest to cast with of all my 30cals. It only has (2) driving bands, and the blocks and sprue plate tend to retain heat well. The bullets practically jump out of the mold when its opened. My 1967 vintage Remington 700 gets this bullet over 29gr AA5744 in RP cases with F210M primers. I seat the bullet with the front band kissing the lands, and at that point the ogive shows s bit of engagement just behind the truncated cone. This combo is very accurate and reliable on 500m steel silhouett rams. I've shot it to 800 yards, but ran out of adjustment on my old scope. I've since switched to a tapered +20 MOA base and scope with more elevation adjustment (double), so will have plenty to shoot 1000 yards.

[badbob454]

I'm not seeing anything much in print dealing with this bullet? Is there a problem with the design or is it just fallen by the wayside???????:groner:

ron here is one on the * bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170651654426&category=71118&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
good for a day or so hope this is good for you

[HARRYMPOPE]

I have an RG4(301) and one i call the RG3 that is in an early 1 cav block and a bit lighter version.
Both shoot fine in rifles that can live with a 300-301 nose.

HMP

[Bret4207]

The RG4 was THE target boolit at one time. But, times change. These days its all about WFN, TC, etc.

[cbrick]

I have most of the SAECO molds mentiond here, for the most part the similiar weight & style RCBS design outshoots the SAECO (in grouping at 200m). Also, if hunting is on the agenda most of the TC designs of SAECO have too small of a meplat.

I did get the #311 to shoot fairly well in my 30-30 but it is a bit too pointy for my liking in a lever gun and has to be single loaded.

Then there is the problem of IF Redding will honor their warranty should there be a problem with a new mold. They didn't with me, they refused to accept it back for warranty and even went so far as to tell me, and I quote - Do not send it back, we don't need to look at it, there is nothing wrong with Redding products and if you don't like that then buy RCBS. Nice customer service huh?

And price? The last 4 cav SAECO I looked at on the Midway site was $175.00 plus shipping. For that price they may not even honor their own written warranty. Far better quality in 4 and 5 cav at near 1/2 the price can be had from MP, NOE, Mountain Molds and others and with a rock solid no questions asked warranty.

Rick